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kaniz
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Easy DMT Tek I came across today...
#6112517 - 09/28/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Came across this Tek while poking around the net today, and must say - seems like the easiest DMT tek I've seen.
Full thread for it can be found on Lycaeum
------------ Now that my friend in Antarctica is done fucking around with Sphere's DMT extraction method, he's asked me to write it up into a tek.
Here's what I've come up with. I'm interested in hearing what points may be unclear, in need of illustration, etc.
To Extract DMT from Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark You will need: A coffee grinder or heavy duty blender Mixing jar - this should be glass with a wide mouth and a tight fitting lid. A quart jar can do 50 grams of bark, a gallon pickle jar can do 200. Lye Naptha - get VM+P and not lighter fluid Collection jars - 4 wide mouth 8oz jelly jars with lids Separating aparatus - a sepratory funnel is easiest but siphoning and decanting will work fine Very cold freezer - should freeze ice cream HARD ...and of course, MHRB
The first step is to pulverize the bark until it's just fiber and pink/purple dust. It should be snapped into small pieces and run through a coffee grinder or blender at high speed. You may need pruning shears to cut the bark small enough to grind properly. It needs to be completely broken down. The dust created is very fine and astringent to the respritory tract. Unless you dig big cakey purple boogers, wear a mask.
Mix 15ml water per gram of bark with one gram lye for each 10ml water in the mixing jar. For example: 50g bark would require 750ml water and 75g lye. One level tablespoon of lye weighs about 15g. Note that lye is dangerous. Blind you forever dangerous. Add the lye to the water slowly stirring constantly until completely dissolved. Have a bottle of vinegar handy for cleaning up drips and spliis.
Add the bark, cap and shake the jar and let the bark soak for awhile.
Now add 1ml naptha for each 10ml water in the mix jar and turn the jar end over end, not splashing but rolling the naptha around in the bark and solution. Do this for one minute and then let the jar stand until the naptha has pretty much separated to the top. Repeat agitation three more times.
After the last agitation, separate the two layers. The naptha (top) goes in one of the collection jars, the rest stays in the mix jar with the bark. There are many ways to do this, the separatory funnel being the easiest. A one off sep funnel is pretty easy to make if you think about it and there are various techniques of siphoning and decanting. There must be no dark solution in the collection jar though.
Put the collection jar in the freezer.
Repeat above three steps three more times.
Go to bed. You should have four snow globes waiting for you in the morning.
Pour each jar of naptha out through a coffee filter. Save the naptha. A lot of paste will stick to the sides of the jar, so use a small rubber spatula to scrape the sides down onto the filter as well. Spread each filter out to dry. There will still be some residue in the jars, a bit of Salvia or MJ will scrub them out nicely.
Once the paste has dried THOROUGHLY (chop and stir it a couple of times), crush any lumps up and combine it all into one coffee filter. Now wash the lot by pouring freezer temperature NON SUDSY ammonia over it and through the coffee filter. If you can get 10% (janitor strength) all the better, most important though, is NON SUDSY. Shake the bottle. Suds = No. It won't take much, 4oz or so for a 200g batch, just make sure all the powder is thoroughly wetted - stir it around. A good bit of the mass will wash away - 25-45%, but it's nothing you want to be smoking anyway.
You should be left with somewher in the vicinity of .5% of the weight of the rootbark in DMT powder. It is perfectly smokable at this point, but it can be refined further by recrystalization. Although recrystalization inevitably results in loss of goods, once you've had a hit of DMT that left absolutely NOTHING behind in the pipe, you won't want to use anything else.
If you intend to recrystalize, you can omit the ammonia wash.
The idea behind recrystalization is that solvents hold more stuff when hot than cold and that different stuff is soluable at different temperatures and that if a solvent with a lot of different stuff in it cools down slowly, all that different stuff will precipitalte individually.
So have a container with the DMT and a container of the recrystalization solvent together in a pan of hot water. Naptha will work but heptane is better. The fumes from whatever solvent you use will be extremely flammable, so don't use a gas stove or light a bowl or be otherwise stupid. The DMT will already be melting if the water is hot enough and the hot solvent is added with a pipette until all of the DMT is dissolved. The solvent will be a clear yellow.
Then leave the pan of water with the DMT container to cool to room temperature. Remove the DMT container and cool in the refrigerator. Then the freezer. You will end up with DMT crystals of varying purity atop a pellet of slag which still contains quite a bit of DMT. Do the coffee filter bit again and separate the crystals from the slag. The crystals can be refined in one or two more recrystalizations into pure cear DMT. The slag can also be further refined or redissolved into the next batch. The naptha can be reused or evaped down and the residue scraped and cleaned. And don't forget to scrub those jars and utensils with your favorite smoking herb.
Edited by kaniz (09/28/06 06:49 PM)
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kija
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: kaniz]
#6112582 - 09/28/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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yield would be less then an acidic bath first and the spice will need more of a cleaning at the end one would think.
Cant fail tho,crystals will emerge.
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: kaniz]
#6121673 - 10/01/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I understand it except the bit about scrubbing jars/utensils with smoking herb. Am I not understanding a joke?
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: thatiAM]
#6121810 - 10/01/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is an easy tek huh? im fucked up now so maybe i cant grasp it... ill try later.
will this work with viridis though?
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: kaniz]
#6122015 - 10/01/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't tried an extraction on MHRB before did some yopa seeds once didn't end up with enough to be worth anything though, but I think the yield and quality would benifit alot using an acid(even something weak like vinegar) when extracting and a defatting step neither would add much difficulty to the tek IMO
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: Gainer]
#6122348 - 10/01/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where do you guys get your lye from?
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: harrybosetti]
#6122950 - 10/01/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol i got my lye from science lab but check this help full site out i posted it before about making a test tube vapourizer http://www.hometrainingtools.com/catalog/chemistry/cat_chemicals.html they have NaOH and HCl and glass wear
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: thedudenj]
#6122968 - 10/01/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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great, i was about to start my extraction tomorrow, i think i will try this one and let you guys know how it goes...
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: BlindLemon]
#6123038 - 10/01/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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This guy here has links to a number of sites you can obtain lye from. http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/coldprocesssoapmaking/a/lyesources.htm
(Not sure what the policy is on linking vendors, hopefully this is okay)
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thatiAM
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: BlindLemon]
#6125272 - 10/02/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
BlindLemon said: great, i was about to start my extraction tomorrow, i think i will try this one and let you guys know how it goes...
Cool, please do let us know. Also, I am wondering why this tek does not use any acids (others I have read do). Anyone know? Is it just an extra step to get it more pure, or get more yield or something? If so, which?
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kija
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: thatiAM]
#6127114 - 10/03/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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both..
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: kija]
#6127382 - 10/03/06 04:14 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait a sec I've just got to turn off my particle accelerator,,, ok now I can hear my self think, yep thats one easy tek there boy. Just gonna read it in a sec and do it whilst I drink my coffee .
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: Mirth]
#6143330 - 10/07/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I live in Canada so those companies won't ship to me
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: harrybosetti]
#13817192 - 01/19/11 09:23 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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SWIM NEEDS HELP...extraction went bad. First, performed a STB TEK, w/ 100g of root bark, 150g of draino, and 40ml of naptha..worked well, but yielded about .3g of spice...decided to go with Nomans ATB TEK, and used all the rest of my 400g of rootbark...mixed water/vinegar, cooked it in a crockpot, twice, strained liquid from sludge, and discarded sludge...let sit overnight......next day, Stirred up some lye/draino in water (bubbled over, smoked, dangerous stuff)..I added it to my jug, and everything turned grey after some gentle tilts, back and forth.... Added naptha, left it alone, but was surprised to come back and find 3 layers, not two...grey sludge at the bottom, cloudy red liquid in the middle, and clearish/yellow naptha on top. After 4 hrs, sucked up the naptha, and threw it in my freezer (super cold). Next day, a few crystals floating, but dissolve when I pour the naptha out into a filter...I let the dish evap, only to find nothing...tried another pull, which yielded yellow naptha, which I allowed to evap overnight, and then threw in the freezer...One thing I did not do this time was heat up the naptha before adding it to the mixture, dunno if that messed anything up...I also know draino sucks and has other chems in it, but it worked fine on the STB, so I dunno...I am now waiting for my piss-yellow naptha to freeze precip...I let it evap down to 30%, then put it in the freezer. I have been working on this damned extraction for 4-5 days now, trying everything under the sun to make it work...oh yeah, and this morning, the winejug that had everything in it, suddenly exploded, covering everything in my garage in mimosa-lye-mud...perfect way to end a seemingly botched extraction...can anyone help me, or am I gonna have to start from scratch and stick to STB?
-- I left in in the freezer for 24 hrs, naptha is still piss-yellow, and there is a buildup on the bottom of the jar, and some spider-webby looking crystals on the side...what is this stuff? Is it dmt? It doesn't look like much at all
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: tobecomeone00]
#13817574 - 01/19/11 10:21 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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Sorry about the fail extraction, sucks! I guess next time cap it loosely. Something in mimosa bark makes hydrogen or methane when in contact with lye. I am rather curious if this is a degradation or synthesis reaction, whatever the case is, it needs to vent or Ka-BOOM!
Your main problem it seems is that you didn't add enough lye. If it's gray than you need to add more until it is oily black like used motor oil. You can also vac-filter out the gray sludge if you reach pH 7 and purify the extract liquor to make the extraction easier at a slight cost of overall yield.
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: tobecomeone00]
#13818173 - 01/20/11 12:08 AM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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Holy Great Wall of Text, Batman. Hurt my head trying to read that.
It sounds like a couple things:
1) You need more patience and the willpower to stick to ONE tek and follow it through to the letter.
2) It is not uncommon for lye to etch glass and make it easier to break. Also, as above mentioned, not leaving room to breath can cause breakage.
3) Be way more careful when dealing with lye.
Start over. Stick to one tech. Look for the STB tech with Pictorial on these forums. If you can't find it, you shouldn't be extracting.
Also, post your questions about your experiment on that thread instead of making new posts or hijacking other people's posts.
Good Luck.
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very hot jar? [Re: kaniz]
#14683223 - 06/27/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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is the jar suppose to hot to the touch once you cap and shake? (pre naptha)
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Re: very hot jar? [Re: heath]
#14683366 - 06/27/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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after you put in the lye?
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Yes, it is. A reaction happens and it causes heat to be released.
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Re: very hot jar? [Re: Joolz]
#14683835 - 06/28/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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That heat also quite impressively cleans your drains of hairballs, shit, and cum.
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The ammonia wash at the end is unnecessary if you go with the freezer.
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: kaniz]
#16721035 - 08/18/12 02:54 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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What happens if I use sudsy ammonia? I can't find non-sudsy
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: RonPaul 2012]
#16721919 - 08/18/12 05:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: thatiAM]
#17903728 - 03/04/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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thatiAM said: I understand it except the bit about scrubbing jars/utensils with smoking herb. Am I not understanding a joke?
I think he is talking about scraping the jars with your smoking herb..MJ....Lotus...salvia...tobacco..anything really !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: thatiAM]
#17903884 - 03/04/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm with you...no clue
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: kaniz]
#23011607 - 03/16/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Will this tek work with Phalaris arundinacea (Reed canary grass)
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Re: Easy DMT Tek I came across today... [Re: NiNJa420]
#23011616 - 03/16/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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No it wont. Phalaris extractions are pretty complicated because you have to get rid of plant fats and nasty byproducts like gramine and hordenine
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