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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Redstorm]
    #6115972 - 09/29/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't say anyone would prefer it.

I am proposing that some whites, like our friend economist, don't care either way.

I am also proposing that almost all non-whites would care a great deal.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6115982 - 09/29/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm, I'm not quite so sure about that. I think it would be about the same, but then again my assertations carry no more merit than yours.

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Redstorm]
    #6116018 - 09/29/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Fair enough, but I have a white person right here, admitting he doesn't care either way. Find me just one non-white who believes the same about their race, or better yet, find me 8, since there are 8 times more non-whites than whites on this planet.

It was not my intention to get into any of this though. All I am saying, is that unless something is done, current trends dictate that the white race will disappear from the face of the earth. Massive immigration and declining birth rates prove this, it is fact. Will it take a long time at this rate? Yes. Will it happen eventually at this rate? Yes.

The fact that many whites don't care about these facts just means this process will move along that much faster.

I am not proposing we exclusively merry with in our race. The solution would be either get the white birthrates up, or have places where we are segregated. Neither of these options seem feasible, so I think I have every reason to have my beliefs, that the white race will one day only be a memory.

This bothers me greatly.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6116085 - 09/29/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

That's really a secondary issue imo. More importantly to worry about than a race dying out, is the species dying out. How is the earth going to support 7 billion humans? 8 billion, 9, 10? There is something to worry about.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #6116100 - 09/29/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

True that, that is also a big fear of mine. Non-whites could stop breeding like rabbits, then we would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.  :wink:


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6116144 - 09/29/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
All I am saying, is that unless something is done, current trends dictate that the white race will disappear from the face of the earth. Massive immigration and declining birth rates prove this, it is fact. Will it take a long time at this rate? Yes. Will it happen eventually at this rate? Yes.



I think your real problem here is that you don't appreciate the fact that declining population growth is affecting everyone. You probably also aren't taking note of the fact that not all white populations are shrinking.

In reality, the race mostly likely to shrink in the coming year are the East Asians. Japan has long had the greatest decline in birth rate of any developed nation, and China has forced itself into a declining population via two decades of the "One child" policy accompanied with forced abortions.

I'd suggest reading The Empty Cradle by Phillip Longman for some good info on population decline. The short of it is: it's happening everywhere. Availability of antibiotics in the 1980s led to a massive population surge as infant mortality dropped off in the Arab world (which may or may not have a lot to do with today's world events), however, the bi-product is that current Arab birthrates are actually insufficient to replace the outgowing generation.

The same story is unfolding in India and Pakistan as well. Throughout the world, populations are on the verge of shrinking.

But, as stated above, while that's the macro-level story, on the micro-level, it's not always the case. Population economists who have tracked subgroups within races have found that many are, infact, growing. Of course, the groups that are growing aren't the ones that usually make us happy. Christian Fundamentalists in Ohio, for example, are expected to outstrip the rest of the population within the next several generations through birthrate alone.

Population decline is a huge concern to economists. There are very few models that show nations experiencing positive economic gain in the face of a shrinking population, and that's without benefit of crippling pension/social security systems. It's bad news across the board, and very few people know what to do about it.

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Economist]
    #6116169 - 09/29/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I will look into that book, but I wonder, if this is the case, why is the world population expected to reach 9-10 billion by 2050?


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6116639 - 09/29/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think you're looking at an older projection.

The 2004 revised UN projection now isn't even sure the population will reach 9 billion by 2050, and the "most pecimistic" projections show a return to 6 billion by 2070.

It's also important to remember that the current generation isn't expected to start dying until around 2060, which is why the 2050 number (whatever it is) will probably be the peak.

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6116653 - 09/29/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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When white people make up 5% of the world population(I think we are at 12% now), I wonder if my bloodline will still be going.






Alpharedecho, I can dispel a HUGE error in your thinking here:


If your offspring procreates with say an African or Asian... It is still your bloodline! Unless you think only family should marry (which you don't) then any race will do, it still will result in precisely as much of "your" genetic material ending up in saids offspring. Just as much DNA. Your bloodline is preserved just as well in either case.

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I don't have pride in the white race per se, but I am thankful for their fight in the past, and their accomplishments, otherwise I wouldn't be here.




Then you should be immesurably grateful to your earlier African ancestors, because they over time birthed the white race. The white race is their offspring. Honor your ancestors.

Our shared African heritage is proven by science throuygh research into mitochondrial DNA. That research clearly shows that ALL HUMANS WHO LIVE TODAY are born from one woman and a few men, and they were Africans.

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Are you people understanding where I am coming from yet?




Honor your African ancestors, and accept the genetic debt which the white race has to the black race. This entitles or demands nothing of no one, other than acceptance of our true heritage and respect for our fellow man.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Asante]
    #6116776 - 09/29/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I didnt take the time to read the 100 posts or so, and maybe someone has talked about this already, but I hope than many of you realize that anything that starts with AL was a discovery made by arabic culture.

algebra for example. as well as a large percentage of medical terms come from arabic culture. Basically, all the tehcnical medical terms either come from latin or arabic.

Edited by psilocyberin (09/29/06 08:33 PM)

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6116803 - 09/29/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Alcohol is a good one! Many cultures invented alcoholic beverages, but the Arab world invented and refined the art of distilling alcohol to create nonperishable and very portable beverages.

They invented perfumes too by distilling flowers with water to yield essential oils.

Unperishable and portable alcohol and flower essence, born out of necessity for cultures living in the desert for a large part.

Distilled spirits for the men and perfumes for the ladies. Quite sophisticated!


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Asante]
    #6117210 - 09/29/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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When white people make up 5% of the world population(I think we are at 12% now), I wonder if my bloodline will still be going.






Alpharedecho, I can dispel a HUGE error in your thinking here:


If your offspring procreates with say an African or Asian... It is still your bloodline! Unless you think only family should marry (which you don't) then any race will do, it still will result in precisely as much of "your" genetic material ending up in saids offspring. Just as much DNA. Your bloodline is preserved just as well in either case.

Quote:

I don't have pride in the white race per se, but I am thankful for their fight in the past, and their accomplishments, otherwise I wouldn't be here.




Then you should be immesurably grateful to your earlier African ancestors, because they over time birthed the white race. The white race is their offspring. Honor your ancestors.

Our shared African heritage is proven by science throuygh research into mitochondrial DNA. That research clearly shows that ALL HUMANS WHO LIVE TODAY are born from one woman and a few men, and they were Africans.

Quote:

Are you people understanding where I am coming from yet?




Honor your African ancestors, and accept the genetic debt which the white race has to the black race. This entitles or demands nothing of no one, other than acceptance of our true heritage and respect for our fellow man.




You are clever, I will give you that. Listen, I feel a universal heritage with all humans, I just want to see the pure white race stick around, like I want to see pure black, pure Asian, etc. Variety is the spice of life!


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6117292 - 09/29/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I hope you learned something from this thread.

Be at peace with your humanity, and embrace the change. Racism hurts everyone.

Peace  :mushroom2:


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
    #6117343 - 09/29/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I agree, I have nothing but love for my human brothers. I just hope they feel the same way about me!


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6117373 - 09/29/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I hate to tell yall, the arabs are not respnislbe for algebra, the Egyptians and The Greeks are.

It seems I have to remind everyone every so often that algebra and math is quite.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #6117389 - 09/29/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, the treatise of Algebra was derived from an Arabic speaking Muslim Persian. The word Algebra itself is Arabic.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
    #6117454 - 09/29/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Basilides said:
Actually, the treatise of Algebra was derived from an Arabic speaking Muslim Persian. The word Algebra itself is Arabic.




the name for algebra may be muslim, but the practice of using variables and cartesian points is decidedly not.

SO shut the fuck up until you learn the difference between names and defintions.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #6117460 - 09/29/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hey I really dont dislike you like I do some of the PAL people, itsm just I was thrown out of my house after winning some serious legal battles in life that has me a little depressed therefore a little testy. Sorry.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #6117467 - 09/29/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Algebra is pre muslim egyptinan as well as some Greektian. Like I said.



Since our apla numeric system has its roots in Persia, the name may have stuck, but the practices of algebra predate Mahomet by awhile.


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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #6117537 - 09/30/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The treatise was formulated by the said Persian Muslim man. Do you know what that means?

And telling someone to shut the fuck up is probably against the forum rules.

lawl@u


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