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Hank, FTW
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
#6112289 - 09/28/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Basilides said: You're a racist because you consider people combatants in a non-existent war simply because of their ethnicity.
It's not literal, I do not think people are actually combatants. They are breeding my people(whites) out of existence. Whether it is intentional or not, is IRRELEVANT TO ME!
One humanity. One love. You just don't get it, nazi boy.
How can I be a Nazi when I have friends(some of them life long bests friends) who are: Vietnamese, Black, East-Indian. Doesn't seem to mesh well with being a Nazi.
I love my friends, but would never want their people to be the majority in my homeland. Just like I would never want my people to be a majority in their homeland.
For such a tolerant person, you are pretty damn intollerant to MY OPINION!
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
#6112295 - 09/28/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Basilides said: I'm afraid your subjective world view = your subjective world view.
Is that so?
So I guess the rest of the world is getting along in the whole one humanity, one love way.
WTF news have I been watching?!?!?!
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
#6112298 - 09/28/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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are you new here, or did i miss where PAL got to the point where that style of "debate" is taken as normal and acceptable here?
nazi boy?
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Syle]
#6112305 - 09/28/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Soap,Artillery, and Algebra. Anything that has to do with cleaning, islam is a cleanfreak religion.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6112326 - 09/28/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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A human being is a human being. Who gives a fuck where they came from, what they look like or who their ancestors were. It's a retarded non-value given imagined value. If you honestly believe white people are going to somehow disappear, you need a ward team in Vienna to check that head of yours.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#6112330 - 09/28/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mosques without ablution fountains = heresy
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#6112347 - 09/28/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: Soap,Artillery, and Algebra. Anything that has to do with cleaning, islam is a cleanfreak religion.
Or Christians were just really filthy, which in fact they were. Reports by Arab travellers who went to Europe were often disgusted by the bathing practices of Europeans, who at most might take a bowl of water, wash their hands, rinse their mouths, blow their snot from their noses into it and then pass it on to the next person. And those were the Europeans who actually bothered to clean themselves!
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Ravus]
#6112356 - 09/28/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I bet Muslims disposed their poop in state of the art ways during the Golden Age. They did everything 110% back then
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: zappaisgod]
#6112372 - 09/28/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alpharedecho said: I get it, 99% of the world doesn't.
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This is disingenuous. Christian country....majority of population christian. Muslim country.... majority of population muslim. Get it? Everybody else does.
I keep forgetting. Where I live the majority is atheist. Christianity is a minority just like Islam.
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You are correct, we should not. They should be the same as us, tolerant. Another failure to recognize a difference everybody else can perceive.
My point was that we should not prohibit protest because SA does, don't misunderstand.
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And here you manage to define the difference between us and the thugs from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, and on and on and on, that you can't seem to discern. Muslim countries, which you can't seem to be able to define (though the stifling of dissent is by no means a muslim invention it is a characteristic of all muslim nations, with the possible exception of Afghanistan).
I know perfectly well democracy is lacking in SA. Another misunderstanding.
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Hmmmm, what's wrong with your viewpoint? Every fucking thing.
What's wrong with your viewpoint, is that the world isn't right. Comedy Central self censored. Thats a shame. They did this for what might well be a good reason, Thats a huge shame.
Given the world as it is, why needlessly press on the Mohammed insults? I think self-censorship was a realistic action in a less then perfect world. The consequences would not be funny, so CC withdrew it.
*skips the anti muslim rant*
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Hirsi Ali? Member of parliament run out of the country
She was ran out of the country by Immigration because she lied about her heritage to gain access to our country. A lot of the thread ms Ali was protected against was perceived.
There was no attack.
Ms Ali also wasn't a member of parliament when she made that movie. She banded up with that pig van gogh because of shared anti-islamic sentiments. She in many cases obstructed progress between the population groups by polarizing everything.
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You have the right to counter my insulting speech with insulting speech. Not threats, not violence. Just more insults.
The problem is that certain people don't play by the rules, and for them Islam is just another excuse, like Christian fundamentalists bear little resemblance to the teachings of Jesus. The problem is the fucked up people among us.
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However, the addition of intolerant murdering assholes is always unhealthy.
We agree  Every effort must be made to find these people and deal with them, no matter what excuse they hide behind. But murdering assholes are rare, both here and there. If there was a civil war in the USA today, then the killing would be on a far larger scale than in Iraq.
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Overwhelming? I doubt this given their avowed general position that muhhamed can withstand no blasphemer. That is not reasonable in my book but then I haven't surrendered my rights to say "fuck muhammed" yet.
The bible too is full of unreasonable demands and rulings. That doesnt make christians bad people. The majority of muslims is slightly religious. A large group is religious, but peaceful. Its only a small group of people who orders and does the killing.
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Figures. "My dope dealer's a camel fucking monkey so camel fucking monkeys must be good"
Zappa, much of your post disappoints me. Don't get so worked up!
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Asante]
#6112398 - 09/28/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zappa always gets worked up thats his style, hes got a lotta of passion.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Asante]
#6112505 - 09/28/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alpharedecho said: I get it, 99% of the world doesn't.
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This is disingenuous. Christian country....majority of population christian. Muslim country.... majority of population muslim. Get it? Everybody else does.
I keep forgetting. Where I live the majority is atheist. Christianity is a minority just like Islam.
Your country was not specifically cited, was it? Sounds like a cool place if that's true. Unless they have surrendered to the "you must not offend doctrine".
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You are correct, we should not. They should be the same as us, tolerant. Another failure to recognize a difference everybody else can perceive.
My point was that we should not prohibit protest because SA does, don't misunderstand.
I didn't misunderstand, I merely redirected you to what I think they should be. Do you disagree?
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And here you manage to define the difference between us and the thugs from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, and on and on and on, that you can't seem to discern. Muslim countries, which you can't seem to be able to define (though the stifling of dissent is by no means a muslim invention it is a characteristic of all muslim nations, with the possible exception of Afghanistan).
I know perfectly well democracy is lacking in SA. Another misunderstanding.
And yet you previously deny being able to discern the difference between a christian nation and a muslim one. And that any comparison between the two necessarily leads to an assertion that we shouldn't be like them as opposed to making a point that they should be like us. That is the point I believe he was making, not that we should suck as much as them.
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Hmmmm, what's wrong with your viewpoint? Every fucking thing.
What's wrong with your viewpoint, is that the world isn't right. Comedy Central self censored. Thats a shame. They did this for what might well be a good reason, Thats a huge shame.
And there is no way that "huge shame" should be tolerated. What is needed is a Spartacus moment when we all stand up and say "I am Spartacus" so that the murdering scum won't know where to strike. And if you don't, you are a coward. That is why I made all those quotes about "camel humping muhammed" I don't give a fucking rat's ass about their religion your religion or anybody else's religion. But I sure do give a shit about my right to say "your religion is stoopit" without fear of reprisal in anything other than a verbal or written fashion. In fact, their willingness to resort to violence, threats and intimidation demands that I say "YOUR RELIGION IS STOOPIT". Loudly and repeatedly. Did I mention that muhammamed was a camel fucking pedophilic homo? I may have missed that one.
Given the world as it is, why needlessly press on the Mohammed insults? I think self-censorship was a realistic action in a less then perfect world. The consequences would not be funny, so CC withdrew it.
*skips the anti muslim rant*
It is exactly the point. Self censorship due to any reason other than violent intimidation is fine. Economic intimidation is totally cool. Violence? No.
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Hirsi Ali? Member of parliament run out of the country
She was ran out of the country by Immigration because she lied about her heritage to gain access to our country. A lot of the thread ms Ali was protected against was perceived.
Bullshit. That was totally forgiven. And the notion that the threat was perceived (what the fuck?) is just stupid. Her director was murdered and she received numerous death threats for a movie that was her creation more than Theo's
There was no attack.
Ms Ali also wasn't a member of parliament when she made that movie. She banded up with that pig van gogh because of shared anti-islamic sentiments. She in many cases obstructed progress between the population groups by polarizing everything.
She polarized the groups because she said what was, plain and simple, about a group she was a member of. Whether she was a MOP at the time is utterly irrelevant to any point I made. If these neanderthal troglodytes cannot brook criticism without rising to a murderous rage they do not deserve membership in the oxygen utilizing group of organisms. My point is that even if I wrongfully say that muhammed is a goathumping pig fellating son of a whore, I still should not be subject to any physical retaliation. And that is fucking what, in spite of anyone's notion of treehugging why can't we all get along bullshit, is the sine qua non of civilization. Not the notion that everybody needs to be nice to everybody else, but that everyone needs to keep their fucking hands to themselves no matter what somebody mean says. Oh, and muhammed can suck my balls. Wanna kill me?
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You have the right to counter my insulting speech with insulting speech. Not threats, not violence. Just more insults.
The problem is that certain people don't play by the rules, and for them Islam is just another excuse, like Christian fundamentalists bear little resemblance to the teachings of Jesus. The problem is the fucked up people among us.
Jesus is a fucking horror show too
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However, the addition of intolerant murdering assholes is always unhealthy.
We agree  Every effort must be made to find these people and deal with them, no matter what excuse they hide behind. But murdering assholes are rare, both here and there. If there was a civil war in the USA today, then the killing would be on a far larger scale than in Iraq.
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Overwhelming? I doubt this given their avowed general position that muhhamed can withstand no blasphemer. That is not reasonable in my book but then I haven't surrendered my rights to say "fuck muhammed" yet.
The bible too is full of unreasonable demands and rulings. That doesnt make christians bad people. The majority of muslims is slightly religious. A large group is religious, but peaceful. Its only a small group of people who orders and does the killing.
As a percentage, it may be small (1-10%, whatever) The absolute numbers, however, are huge. I know there are sucky people who are christians. And buddhists and atheists and hindus. But to not be able to see the current situation is just pollyannaish foolery.
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Figures. "My dope dealer's a camel fucking monkey so camel fucking monkeys must be good"
Zappa, much of your post disappoints me. Don't get so worked up!
In closing, I'd like to say that muhammed, Jesus, Moses, Buddha, Krishna, Odin, Ra, Bonerhead, Whatever your particular sacred cow is can lick my nuts in Macy's window. Word to WS, guess which will be the only group that a significant portion of it's benighted membership would find me worthy of elimination.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#6112509 - 09/28/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: Zappa always gets worked up thats his style, hes got a lotta of passion.
Not to mention an absolutely brilliant grasp of the issues.
Not for nothing, but if I don't post for a while this place gets awful wimpy. Your thanks are appreciated.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: zappaisgod]
#6112515 - 09/28/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Bonerheadeans?
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
#6112549 - 09/28/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Basilides]
#6112560 - 09/28/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Beyond the enjoyment I get out of venting, I really want to make somebody spew all over their monitor someday. I hope you did.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6113317 - 09/28/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm racist because I fear the day when there is nothing left of my ancestors. I'm horrible!
All my ancestors are dead.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Syle]
#6113408 - 09/28/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hookahs
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#6114965 - 09/29/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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MushmanTheManic said: I'm racist because I fear the day when there is nothing left of my ancestors. I'm horrible!
All my ancestors are dead.
Their blood line and accomplishments however, are not.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6115067 - 09/29/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't see why you should be proud of your culture's accomplishments, b/c you didn't do anything to contribute to them. Having pride in one's race is idiotic, regardless of whether it's some stupid thug on BET or some dirty redneck in the Rust Belt.
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Re: What has the world of Islam contributed to the rest of humanity? [Re: Redstorm]
#6115137 - 09/29/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't have pride in the white race per se, but I am thankful for their fight in the past, and their accomplishments, otherwise I wouldn't be here.
I wish to continue that fight for survival, so many generations from now, my decedents will have a chance to live, and be thankful to me. Maybe that sounds kind of selfish, but I want my bloodline to continue as long as possible, and the thought of it dying out some day truly worries me.
When white people make up 5% of the world population(I think we are at 12% now), I wonder if my bloodline will still be going.
You people may not care if your bloodline thrives or not, but I do, you can call that stupid, or put it down, but it is something I believe in.
If my ancestors had of just given up, against the odds(so many times in history, with WW2 being the latest) then I would not be here. I show my thanks by vowing to not let their hard work and struggle go to waste.
Are you people understanding where I am coming from yet?
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