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 Hippie3
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 Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK  [Re: daussaulit]
#1065471 - 11/19/02 06:24 AM (21 years, 23 days ago) |
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lol
it ain't dead as long as interested folks want to post.
we've been getting tons of good results/reports over at mycotopia from people using the 200:1 water:bleach solution in all aspects of their grow efforts to surpress contams before they even get a chance to start.
here's a recent pic posted of a cake fruiting after a bleach dip.
the cake was birthed prematurely, before colonization was quite finished but the bleach dip helped it finish fine.
thread cited
here's another success story-
In reply to:
By Visions (Visions) on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 05:42 pm: Edit
I resently cased some grains with unpasturized dehydrated manure...I had some grain jars that started producing lots of shrooms in the jars before I could use them as spawn...So I dumped them into an aluminum pan with small holes poked on the bottom...then cased...Put 1/4tsp bleach in a gal jug...used that to thoughly soak the manure and grains...I thought I would have a problem with the shrooms rotting under the casing...had hundreds of small shrooms...I didn't cover it...was left out in the open right next to my computer...I would sometimes water it right out of my drinking glass...I would poke at it with my bare hands to see how it was doing...Smelled it...Never got a contam!...Never smelled funny!...If I would have cased it before all the shrooms started growing in the jar the results would have been greater...
This is what a 3qt jars produced so far in one pan...40grams cracker dry
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 joeshitragpicker
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Hippie3]
#1066037 - 11/19/02 11:12 AM (21 years, 23 days ago) |
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hip u da man... off topic....
How many dry g's per cake does one usually expect from neglect? If one has the capability to case & saran wrap it, should one just go with that? Will the yields be substantially better?
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Ivan
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Good Post and experiment Hippy!
I used H202 sprayed on the casings when I was growing before but always had a bleach solution around for cleaning everything.
So the room was washed down with bleach, the tables and the area around the casings.
My point is the following.
The bleach was in the atmosphere and in the area of growing.
Evaporating all the time.
I did not die and am not afraid thatI will die soon.
As for the question how much bleach the mushrooms would asorb in the dunking process ( I just used tap water but thats me)
Have you ever noticed that a cake floats!!!!!
Wow what a concept, so the 1:550 consitration would result in micrograms of any bleach that "theoretically" would be asorbed into the mycelia structure and resulting mushroom.
Now if you were to spray them with a diluted bleach solution the whole growth sequence then and only then would we maybe be able to see any reay concentrations of the bleach in the mushrooms.
Conclusions:
Bleach has a topical effect in killing the green bad guys.
:-)
I wish I had thought of that.
Bleach is great for use in all phases of any mushroom operation.
To the fools that keep worrying about minute ( ug's) of bleach.
Please stop this verbal nonesence.
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Raadt
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Ivan]
#1664802 - 06/26/03 02:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow, this is old. lol.
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Raadt]
#1666744 - 06/27/03 06:28 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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good information never goes out of date.
we're still getting good reports from many who regularly use the 200:1 bleach mist/dunk to keep contams at bay.
lots of folks using it on their bulk straw too, to pasturize.
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Raadt
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Hippie3]
#1667313 - 06/27/03 02:06 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, it's just funny when posts 8-9 months old get dug up.
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Raadt]
#1668038 - 06/27/03 08:17 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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And so modest too Hippie...
Maybe next time i wont bother sterilising my substrate - ill just use sulphuric acid to burn away the contams...
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Zen Peddler]
#1668842 - 06/28/03 06:02 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol
i'd recommend you try that as a enema.
might improve your disposition.
what is your problem anyway ?
sour grapes ? penis envy ?
you seem to follow me and post on my threads
like some schoolgirl with a crush,
trying to get my attention any way you can.
give it a rest, you bore me.
plenty of folks are using bleach and if you don't,
that's fine too.
but get out of the way and stop the harrassment.
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Anno
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Hippie3]
#1668850 - 06/28/03 06:12 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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hippie, why so bitter? He?s Australian, don?t mind him 
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Zen Peddler
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Anno]
#1668870 - 06/28/03 06:26 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stop it hippie - your turning me on 
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Zen Peddler]
#1669085 - 06/28/03 09:11 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry, anno.
shouldn't let him blow my cool.
yeah, that's it.
just gets old after
a few years of it.
i'll try to chill.
peace
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shroomophile
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: zeronio]
#1673475 - 06/30/03 07:42 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess i'm a goner.I've been using bleach in my substrates for 20 years.Funny thing...never felt better.
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: shroomophile]
#1673486 - 06/30/03 07:57 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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did someone used it on bulk substract and casing ????????
what where the result if so
and hippie3, do you think its a sound idea, sounds like it could very well work to me????
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: cd666cd]
#1674432 - 06/30/03 04:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn right it can work,
and it does.
a good example of bleach used in bulk substrate/casings
is visions' laundry baskets tek found at mycotopia,
its' also been cross-posted here before, by me.
visions' used my bleach tek both to pasturize his straw
and also in his mist bottle.
great results, too.
another mycotopiate, fathergoose, has adapted the chronic tek for
using bleach to keep everything shiny clean in the quart jar terrariums.
we've got many success stories archived under bleach dipping over at mycotopia, many with pix so come browse anytime and check it out further in depth.
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Hippie3]
#1674446 - 06/30/03 04:19 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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here's a pic of visions' work to whet your appetite.
and a url to get you started.
visions' tek
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Zen Peddler
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Hippie3]
#1679226 - 07/02/03 04:15 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well there you go - they are impressive pics. Kick arse isolate.
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pussycontrol
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Zen Peddler]
#1704781 - 07/11/03 01:23 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey hippie whats the ratio you even start to measure for a 21quart all american pressure cooker, when tryin that 100:1 straw pasteurizing.?
Also, u think i could just pasteurize my poo in the same 21puart Pc at the same time, im just starting some hay/poo work. anyideas would help. thanks?
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: pussycontrol]
#1780964 - 08/05/03 08:22 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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for straw pasturization,
it works out to roughly 1.5 tablespoons of bleach per gallon of water used.
i prefer to do the straw and dung apart then mix.
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Hippie3]
#1781175 - 08/05/03 09:56 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey I was wondering if you can use this method for a partially colonized cake?
Chop off the contams with a hot knife then bleach dunk in a 200:1 ratio for 5 minutes and put back in jars to finish colonization?
Or should I wait for the entire thing to colonize and pray the contams dont spread?
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Hippie3
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Re: Hip's Bleach Experiment/TEK [Re: Ravinoff]
#1781685 - 08/05/03 12:50 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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tough call.
has to be case-by-case,
some can be saved, others can't.
but it's proly best to let it go until birthday,
unless the contam is still growing or the mycellia has stalled out.
then you can try what you suggested.
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