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ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung
    #6107611 - 09/27/06 04:48 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Hi. What do you experts think about this photo?
The mushrooms are growing out from a piece of horse dung. Location Sweden.

I have always thought that p. semilanceata didn´t grow on dung?



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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: knarkkorven]
    #6107688 - 09/27/06 05:01 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Those deffinitely are not semilanceata. Probably an inactive dung psilocybe. I find similar ones in Montana, on horse dung too. However, since you are in Sweden, there is a slight chance they could be fimetaria, or subfimetaria. Unlikely though. Probably inactive. What color is the sporeprint?


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: landsnorkler]
    #6107711 - 09/27/06 05:07 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Those certainly do appear to be Psilocybes, is there any bluing?


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: shroomydan]
    #6107723 - 09/27/06 05:09 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

I see bluing on the broken stem in the right one and they do appear to strongly resemble semilanceata IMHO.


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: landsnorkler]
    #6107742 - 09/27/06 05:12 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Sure looks like a psilocybe. The large mushroom all the way to the right seems to have blue/green bruising. Do you have any other photos?


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: thetonebone72]
    #6108035 - 09/27/06 06:41 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

ive seen liberty caps come up THROUGH dung before
this could be a case of that


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: knarkkorven]
    #6108071 - 09/27/06 06:53 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

mostlikely they are P. strictipes or a realted species.

Unusual, yes, but P. strictipes grows in manure and lberty caps do not.

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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6110090 - 09/28/06 05:06 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Although semilanceata is fruited most readily of dung substrates in cultivation...
I could have a look at it under a microscope if you like - just PM me if your keen. cheers'


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6110382 - 09/28/06 09:42 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

mjshroomer: Yes, it might be p. strictipes. If i recall correctly they are macroscopically almost indistinguishable from p. semilanceata if you don´t look specifically at the spores? But in Paul Stamets "Psilocybin mushrooms of the world" he mention that they don´t grow at dung. ??

The person who picked them will try to make a spore print.

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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: knarkkorven]
    #6110743 - 09/28/06 12:14 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

No they generally like wild grasses to grow in especiallyin western Oregon. However they can come up formt he ground through horse and cow manure. P. fimetaria and P. sierrae also gro9w from manured gardens in parks and fields.. Some sierrae reemble libs, buit those are rather thick stemmed.

ane the caps look pretty thick and slimy. BIt those are definitely Psilocybe.

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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6110903 - 09/28/06 01:07 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

The person who showed this photo to me also told me that he had found 35 of those in a pile of horse dung. If that might be a clue...

He showed me another photo today, it´s the biggest mushroom from the photo above. I hope he will find more and take better pictures for us. :smile:



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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: knarkkorven]
    #6111158 - 09/28/06 02:10 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Oo, I see some nice bluing there.


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: Poseydon]
    #6114374 - 09/29/06 08:09 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

could be a new species. as i say im open to checking out them under a scope to see what they might be.


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: knarkkorven]
    #6115100 - 09/29/06 01:16 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

wow, that is pretty interesting. Never seen anything quite like those. The veil remnants are strange. I'm interested in seeing how this turns out.


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7354501 - 08/31/07 02:40 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Microscopic examination points to Psilocybe fimetaria although it seems to be lacking the papilla of that species.

http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Semilanceatae/Sweden_psilocybe_001


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: Workman]
    #7354576 - 08/31/07 03:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

interesting


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Re: ID: Mysterious psilocybe on dung [Re: fliped]
    #7357902 - 09/01/07 05:04 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

In my research I have found reports of P. fimetaria in Norway and Finland, but not in Sweden until now. Great news!

Thanks workman!

Also check out
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6937663#Post6937663
for a third photo and some other info about the location and other weird looking psilocybe's on that field.



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workmans photo and id information is gone right now so I will paste them here.

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imilar to Psilocybe semilanceata but found growing directly in dung. There appears to be an annulus on the largest mushroom which would indicate that this species is either Psilocybe subfimetaria aka P. sierrae or P. fimetaria. Spores 11-14.4 x 6-7.6 micrometers agrees well with P. fimetaria but the cap appears to lack the sharp papilla of that species.




photo/microscope: http://knarkkorven.magiskamolekyler.org/svampinfo/foton/Sweden_psilocybe_001.jpg


Edited by knarkkorven (08/07/12 05:26 PM)


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