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 pINNhEAD
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 liquid nutrition 
#6102529 - 09/26/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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has anyone ever used liquid nutrients to enhance fruiting, if so can you apply these nutrients through a fogger system for even distribution or can this type of system do more harm than good.
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 Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6102539 - 09/26/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like it would contaminate too easily. Nice user name! 
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pINNhEAD
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6102541 - 09/26/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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this type of system is for a self-contained fruiting chamber i'm building.
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pINNhEAD
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6102576 - 09/26/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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haha, wow, i'm not trying to bite off your name. what if i mix h2o2 and the nutrients together in the water tank for the fogger to kill any contaminants? i've been pretty lucky so far with my current project but i'm not home alot and i want to build an automated system. i've seen alot of good examples on this site but i have been thinking about additives alot
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6102627 - 09/26/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe that would only be benificial to plants, which can foliar feed. Mush fruits are supplied with energy from the underlying mycelium network, which is getting it from the substrate its digesting. I don't think the actual fruitbody can do anything with nutrients itself. Also, misting with nutes would make your non nutrative casing layer, have nutrients, which is bad contam wise.
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pINNhEAD
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ok that makes sense. can this be good for colonizing the substrate before applying a casing layer. or misting some vermiculite under the substrate because i had a pretty good flush from a casing without a casing layer with no contamination problems
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6102994 - 09/26/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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pINNhEAD said:
i had a pretty good flush from a casing without a casing layer
That would be impossible. You can't have a 'casing' without a casing. What you had was an uncased substrate tray.
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myCo_psyCo
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im pretty sure i remember a post form awhile back about someone using some miracle grow product, but refused to tell what it was and what it had in it , saying that it boosted mycelia growth and brought back an exhausted cake form like 4-5 flushes. and saying that the myc actually colonized the nutes straight forming a "thick myc cheese like substance"
does anyone remember that?
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pINNhEAD
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thank you for the correct terminology. no answers though? i guess i can only find out with more of my own research and some trial and error.... if anyone has any good ideas please let me know
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pINNhEAD
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: myCo_psyCo]
#6103135 - 09/26/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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myCo_psyCo said:
im pretty sure i remember a post form awhile back about someone using some miracle grow product
thanks i'll see what i can find on the subject
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6103197 - 09/26/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What about using pasturized manure teas like they have for gardening. Just fill up a 5 gallon bucket 3/4 way full of horse or cow poo, fill with distilled water and let it sit overnight. Then get a cheese cloth and strain out solids, then pasturize remaining liquid? You would only use these between flushes though, when rehydrating the casings, or dunking cakes. Since mushrooms will fruit til their is no water and/or nutes, this will supply them with both. Maybe even throw in some kelp in the tea or something.
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: unseenat17]
#6103219 - 09/26/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya ive herd of ppl using that "poo tea" to soak wbs or rye and saw a diff in growth
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pINNhEAD
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: myCo_psyCo]
#6103289 - 09/26/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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for sure i'll try that. thanks
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6103391 - 09/26/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushrooms don't grow hydroponicaly, so adding liquid nutrition would be much more likely to feed the contaminants than the mushrooms. Manure tea is useless for mycology except perhaps as mentioned for a grain soak.
Mushrooms eat their food, so all you need is a good compost, and lots of air exchange. You can't force mushrooms to grow bigger with nutes the way you can with plants. They're different organisms.
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pINNhEAD
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so is it better to respawn with fresh steril substrate than try and dunk in a concentraited nute solution or start a new colony. i'm not trying to force bigger mushrooms. i'm wondering if i can keep the myc from running out of water and nutes if it would have multiple flushes as long as i can avoid contamination. by doing so, keep producing more and more without having to star over.
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: pINNhEAD]
#6103606 - 09/26/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do a few searches and you'll see this exact same question comes up on a regular basis. Dunk in plain water, never with nutes. Mushroom mycelium doesn't run out of 'nutes' like plants. It runs out of food when it consumes the substrate.
I'll move this over to the cultivation forum.
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pINNhEAD
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thanks i'll do that
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myCo_psyCo
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so basicly insted of giving it more nutes you give it more food {casing, spawning} and more water {dunking} to keep going
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unseenat17
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: myCo_psyCo]
#6103711 - 09/26/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see. I just pulled the manure tea outta my arse. It seemed semi-logical. Thanks for the explanation RR.
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Re: liquid nutrition [Re: unseenat17]
#6105321 - 09/26/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright. I started thinking about it today and was wondering...if fungi can not be fed hydroponically, then why would soaking WBS in the tea work? Also, why would soaking WBS in coffee work? Blarg...im so confused now.
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