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KingOftheThing
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i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man
#6102074 - 09/26/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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finally in this video we get absolute truth and honesty from the media
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barfightlard
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: KingOftheThing]
#6102153 - 09/26/06 08:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to see some mainstream news doing it's job.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: KingOftheThing]
#6102163 - 09/26/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's about time the media embraced its Woodward and Bernstein values
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Basilides]
#6102450 - 09/26/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did this guy give Clinton, a reacharound? This is just more propaganda from the otherside......this shit is just like Foxnews for Dems............
Clinton was such a powerhouse on national security!
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: SirTripAlot]
#6102507 - 09/26/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If all that Wag the Dog shit is true, Clinton is probably right about the Republican approach to terrorism in the 1990's.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: SirTripAlot]
#6102884 - 09/26/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: This is just more propaganda from the otherside... this shit is just like Foxnews for Dems...
amen to that. how about a news reporter that suggests that neither dems nor republicans are doing anything but protecting their lifestyles and fortunes.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: kotik]
#6103630 - 09/26/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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kotik said:
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SirTripAlot said: This is just more propaganda from the otherside... this shit is just like Foxnews for Dems...
amen to that. how about a news reporter that suggests that neither dems nor republicans are doing anything but protecting their lifestyles and fortunes.
Not at all. Just because the comments of a reporter defend a politician that does not mean it is propaganda. The things he said are true, and it's just a silly attitude to suggest that something is unbelievable if it seems to be in favor of a political person. He did not even hype up Clinton, or try to represent the Democrats. He only re-clarified what was what, and to accomplish that required simultaneous defense of Clinton's words, but his purpose was not to promote a political party. His purpose was rather to keep the other party from brainwashing the public once again by creating a fictitional memory of events and their interpretation.
But if you see the truth, when it's spoken, as just hype for the other party then there's no hope for the country of the US.
Again, his goal was not to promote a political party, but to expose the truth - and in doing so you heard him defend Clinton, altho it was hardly a focus, just a side-effect. To focus on that part of the message is very near sighted.
"how about a news reporter that suggests that neither dems nor republicans are doing anything but protecting their lifestyles and fortunes." He didn't even talk about such things, did you even watch the video?
When America is lied to they do nothing, but when the truth is told they dismiss it as a lie. What a fucked up country.
Edited by Disco Cat (09/26/06 10:00 PM)
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Disco Cat]
#6104734 - 09/26/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with you. I watch Olbermans show quite often (as well as almost all other shows on MSNBC) and he, along with others onthe channel, does not push an agenda. Infact, I would venture to say he is pretty moderate, but is not affraid to call people out no matter who they are or who they are affiliated with. If anyone thinks he was pushing an agenda or political party they are wrong. He never does and never will. He speaks about what he sees not what he WANTS to see.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: KingOftheThing]
#6104903 - 09/26/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good video, bush will go down in history as the worst president in the history of the USA.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6105656 - 09/26/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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BOOHYA Take that! What you belive all comes down to what you know, gotta get the word out
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Disco Cat]
#6105723 - 09/26/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Disco Cat said: Just because the comments of a reporter defend a politician that does not mean it is propaganda. The things he said are true, and it's just a silly attitude to suggest that something is unbelievable if it seems to be in favor of a political person.
I'm sorry, but many of the things he said weren't true. They weren't false either, they were just opinion. They're true to you because you share the opinion, but if you go back and listen to it, he sites almost no evidence, no sources, nothing.
He also launched into many ad hominem attacks (calling Bush a coward, for example). Anyone knows that this is what someone does when they don't have real evidence.
In many ways, that's the worst part. The evidence is out there, it's easy to find, and it would have been easy to site, but he couldn't do that, he only had the time to call Bush names.
I'm sick of the Bush administration, but I'm also sick of anyone who's opposed to the Bush administration just launching into opinionated attacks without bringing any real ideas to the table. He calls Bush a coward, but he doesn't say what "the Brave Man" would have done. He calls Bush a failure, but doesn't offer any suggestions as to what should have been done instead.
The real coward is the one who sits on the sidelines and calls names, instead of getting into the game.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Economist]
#6106067 - 09/27/06 06:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Economist said: many of the things he said weren't true... They weren't false either, they were just opinion. They're true to you because you share the opinion, but if you go back and listen to it, he sites almost no evidence, no sources, nothing.
He also launched into many ad hominem attacks (calling Bush a coward, for example). Anyone knows that this is what someone does when they don't have real evidence.
In many ways, that's the worst part. The evidence is out there, it's easy to find, and it would have been easy to site, but he couldn't do that, he only had the time to call Bush names.
my thoughts exactly. I'm a huge countdown fan, but you have to be blind to not see the bullshit. The media is all ganging up on bush, now that his approval is low. NO ONE had the balls to call any of this out when the country was "split" with like 50/50 approvals. These "brave" reporters only speak out when they are sure they are with the majority.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: KingOftheThing]
#6106679 - 09/27/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Asante]
#6108590 - 09/27/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree 200% with that video. I don't understand how people like economist can deny the things that are said the media is NOT attacking bush they are supporting him! C'mon, how dare you say you don't like the Busg administration and then turn around and say some hippocrytical shit about name calling. How about you cite some sources for your ad hominem comment? Your synnical posts are fucking ridiculous and sickening to me. Hows that for opinion?
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: StroFun]
#6108598 - 09/27/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: kotik]
#6108604 - 09/27/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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kotik said:
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Economist said: many of the things he said weren't true... They weren't false either, they were just opinion. They're true to you because you share the opinion, but if you go back and listen to it, he sites almost no evidence, no sources, nothing.
He also launched into many ad hominem attacks (calling Bush a coward, for example). Anyone knows that this is what someone does when they don't have real evidence.
In many ways, that's the worst part. The evidence is out there, it's easy to find, and it would have been easy to site, but he couldn't do that, he only had the time to call Bush names.
my thoughts exactly. I'm a huge countdown fan, but you have to be blind to not see the bullshit. The media is all ganging up on bush, now that his approval is low. NO ONE had the balls to call any of this out when the country was "split" with like 50/50 approvals. These "brave" reporters only speak out when they are sure they are with the majority.
So what you are saying, and correct me if i'm wrong, is that you don't think that majority in America should have a central public voice? I think the media SHOULD reflect the majority of americans...
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: Economist]
#6108620 - 09/27/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Economist said: I'm sick of the Bush administration, but I'm also sick of anyone who's opposed to the Bush administration just launching into opinionated attacks without bringing any real ideas to the table. He calls Bush a coward, but he doesn't say what "the Brave Man" would have done. He calls Bush a failure, but doesn't offer any suggestions as to what should have been done instead.
The real coward is the one who sits on the sidelines and calls names, instead of getting into the game.
[edit]I need a hobby.
Edited by StroFun (09/28/06 06:56 AM)
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: AaronEvil]
#6108722 - 09/27/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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AaronEvil said: I agree with you. I watch Olbermans show quite often (as well as almost all other shows on MSNBC) and he, along with others onthe channel, does not push an agenda. Infact, I would venture to say he is pretty moderate, but is not affraid to call people out no matter who they are or who they are affiliated with. If anyone thinks he was pushing an agenda or political party they are wrong. He never does and never will. He speaks about what he sees not what he WANTS to see.
Keith Olberman is a deranged lefty loon and has been for years. Whether that means he supports Dems absolutely is irrelevant.
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: StroFun]
#6108727 - 09/27/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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He did bring ideas and his opinion to this forum. What have you done other than be vulgar and abrasive?
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Re: i dont think ive ever heard more truth spoken by one man [Re: zappaisgod]
#6109046 - 09/27/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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What, in your opinion, makes him deranged?
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