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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102613 - 09/26/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stupid indeed. Double standards indeed. If somebody is for freedom of making mockery of Jesus, there is no doubt he has to stand for freedom of making mockery of Muhamed. Indeed, it may provoke these transparent holders, but who gives u ****? It was actually the same battle and same thing 30 years ago whith lunatic Christians who where for censorship about religious icons. Is this a free country or not? Can we stand the fact there are some lunatics around, or not? This fact never stopped process of deliberation, but quiet contrary. And I am glad about that.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Crobih]
#6102635 - 09/26/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, it is a free country, that's why no one's forcing Comedy Central to satirize Mohammed. It seems to me that's what alot of people would want, despite their disclaimers that they're all "for free speech". No, Comedy Central will not allow Stone and Trey to make fun of Mohammed. Big deal. Stone and Trey are obviously not too distraught over this, otherwise they would have parted ways with Comedy Central and they have not done this. Comedy Central is not the fucking government, hence why this QQ whine/bitch/moan thread is somewhat funny.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102874 - 09/26/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Basilides said: this QQ whine/bitch/moan thread is somewhat funny.
my thoughts exactly, however I was under the impression you were bitching and moaning moreso than anyone else.
plus south park already did an episode with mohammed.. super adventure friends or something like that. and probably another one too
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102890 - 09/26/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Really? Were do I say that I want South Park to "spark widespread chaos"? Were is our proof in this thread? Please point it out, to bring clout to your assumption. Seems like the most humorous element of this thread is your reaction, stating something I never said or implied.
If you find this thread so trivial, why even respond? There are people here in the community that also take my stance that this is biased.
I will defend the right of Comedy Central to NOT show what they dont want. Doesn't mean I cant pull them out on the carpet, to show the bias they choose.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#6102905 - 09/26/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102929 - 09/26/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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did you read the first few comments?
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What in the hell is that? I'm a Muslim dude, never seen this, aperantly this isnt in Islam... I wonder who did that and uploaded it, This really violates What god mentioned in the Quran... *sighs*
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Very funny, I gone to mosque many time. Never say this.
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ABOLOF COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT- [4:89] They wish that you disbelieve as they have disbelieved, then you become equal. Do not consider them friends, unless they mobilize along with you in the cause of GOD. If they turn against you, you shall fight them, and you may kill them when you encounter them in WAR.NOT IN PEACE)
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Very funny, I gone to mosque many time. Never seen this rubbish before???.
it's quite obvious you are part of the problem, not the solution.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102936 - 09/26/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Again, were is your evidence? Do not TELL me, what I want to see. If you dont agree with my argument, that is fine, but I WILL NOT stand for you to think for my being or misquote me. Your assumptions are blind and misguided
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: kotik]
#6102940 - 09/26/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#6102957 - 09/26/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: Again, were is your evidence? Do not TELL me, what I want to see. If you dont agree with my argument, that is fine, but I WILL NOT stand for you to think for my being or misquote me. Your assumptions are blind and misguided
Your original post was some whine tittery about Comedy Central being biased. Biased against what and for whom?
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102970 - 09/26/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you for demonstrating that you have no basis for your assumptions, but laughter.
You will not answer the previous requests for citing were I want "widespread chaos'?
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6102992 - 09/26/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Basilides said:
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SirTripAlot said: Again, were is your evidence? Do not TELL me, what I want to see. If you dont agree with my argument, that is fine, but I WILL NOT stand for you to think for my being or misquote me. Your assumptions are blind and misguided
Your original post was some whine tittery about Comedy Central being biased. Biased against what and for whom?
If you cannot extrapolate the bias by yourself, by God.......
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You look to be the one "whining" the most (this opinion is shared by more then just myself)
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#6103008 - 09/26/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because when you say "bias" this seems to imply an Anti-Christian bias, giving the War on Jesus that Comedy Central is allowing South Park to undertake. I see Comedy Central as being afraid of Muslims, not "biased" one way or the other. I think this is fairly obvious.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#6103024 - 09/26/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You people are complicating the issue. Of course there is a double standard here, but there are double standards everywhere. There are just certain people you can't offend. Christians are not one of them.
Remember what happened with those damned cartoons? You want to see more people die because of a south park episode? Does that make the censorship right? of course not, but if it saves peoples lives, then it is worth it.
It is also illegal in many countries to question the holocaust. It is the only event in the history of the universe which is illegal to question, with punishment of jail. Is this a double standard, you bet.
Whether you like it or not, there are double standards in this world, and I just hope it shows people the truth. If Muslims can't be offended with out retaliating in violence, better we know. If you can't question the holocaust with out being thrown in jail, I ask why, the truth should always hold up, to ANY amount of scrutiny.
All I know is Christians are getting the raw end of the deal, we are ON limits for ANYTHING.
Muslims and Jews seem to have special rules.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6103718 - 09/26/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, then you believe liberty should be exchanged for security?
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Viveka]
#6103864 - 09/26/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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While I agree with you that "liberty>security" I don't think this is the issue here. This was a private entity censoring itself. It has its own interest at heart, and did what it thought would be best to protect them. If this scenario involved the government censoring Comedy Central, I would agree with you.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Redstorm]
#6104057 - 09/26/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good point. I was arguing more about the idea that Comedy Central should choose to stifle expression because it might lead to violence here, there or elsewhere, who knows, in response to another poster who raised this possibility. I don't think the argument liberty>security is relegated to the public sector.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Viveka]
#6104111 - 09/26/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, I don't, but you can tell the dead people from the danish embassy all about our great liberties that allowed us to publish the cartoons that most likely got them killed.
All I am saying is if we are going to insult Islam, we better be able to do something when they act out of line. Say they start rioting and killing, we bomb the fuck out of them. We unfortunately won't do that, and our government won't stand up for us, so we should not piss them off.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6105721 - 09/26/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was a Danish paper that printed the cartoons...
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6106001 - 09/27/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If insulting Mohammed causes Muslims to wage wide spread riots, I'd hate to see how "bombing the fuck out of them" would make them feel.
I simply support whatever and however the private sector wishes to function. If they wish to self-censor, that is fine. If Comedy Central allowed South Park to do their hit on Mohammed, they would have the right to. But, while they have the right to, that doesn't make it responsible.
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Re: Censor for the sake of the Muslims, (Fuck You Southpark!) [Re: Basilides]
#6106062 - 09/27/06 05:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"All I know is Christians are getting the raw end of the deal, we are ON limits for ANYTHING.
Muslims and Jews seem to have special rules. "
in america? hah... try living in the middle east.
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