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Amanita Muscaria - ID Help
    #6098723 - 09/25/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Found this on a walk around a nature reserve. I was wondering what type of Amanita muscaria this is and if its safe to eat after proper oven drying.







Location: Western Washington.

Habitat: At a nature reserve, growing on the side of a path on grass and decaying plant material next to blackberry bushes.

Cap: Orange/Red in center fading to Orange/Yellow around edges, Sticky when wet, Convex, Remnants of veil present.

Gills: White, Crowded and swollen, free.

Spore Print: Didn't get one before it dried :frown:, I'm guessing white? Don't know of any other Amanita species having non-white spores.

Stalk: White, Thick, Ring present at top of stem, No scales present as I could tell accept for a faint scaly ring right above the bulb at the bottom, Snaps semi easy but uneven.

Bruising: Creamy yellow where handled on the stalk, and where I broke it.

I guess thats the best I can describe it. Any input will be much appreciated! Thanks. :smile:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #6098746 - 09/25/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

im guessing its the false caesars
amanita parcivolvata

its not muscaria


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #6098752 - 09/25/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Nice description. Since the specimen is not in the greatest of shape it is hard to tell. Some of the features get lost or become harder to observe the older it gets.. I wouldn't risk it - I'd suggest trying to find a fresher specimen and trying to ID from there.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #6098753 - 09/25/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Can you get a better shot of the base of the stem?


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #6098825 - 09/25/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)



Hope this helps.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #6098854 - 09/25/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

That pic suggests that it is either not Amanita muscaria, or missing some A. muscaria features...


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: eris]
    #6098890 - 09/25/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the input guys. Anybody know what type of Amanita it is then?


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: RandomHero]
    #6098912 - 09/25/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Amantia somshiticus,notyummieicus etc.LOL na the first one is a good guess.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #6098955 - 09/25/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

When looking for A. muscaria, it is very important to check for rings on the stalk, just above the bulbous base.

This photo I took the other day clearly shows these rings.



If the rings are not present, the species is not A. muscaria and should be considered poisonous.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: shroomydan]
    #6099047 - 09/25/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Looks a bit like A. flavoconia however this is something of a tough genus. Don't consider that an ID... and don't consider the species name to be an indication of edibility, in this case the flavo could be dangerously toxic.
Check out mushroomexpert.com for a bit of info on chemical tests you can perform such as checking for amyloid spores. You can sometimes test the spore surface assuming it was sporulating at the time it dried. This is where a microscope comes in handy.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria - ID Help [Re: georgeM]
    #6099238 - 09/25/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks a lot for the replys and usefull information! :smile:


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