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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: delysid_1]
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Perhaps you are correct. Maybe we should all quit jumping to conclusions. If he returns anybodies emails in the next couple days then fine, but if he uses the out of town/newguy bs as an excuse to not answer emails for the next month then we will all know the truth.

As I said before I really don't think that hawk would be stealing peoples money but he can't just spring this on us and then leave town on "family business" for a month.


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: delysid_1]
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Lets take a look at Hawks post:

"It turns out another customer down at my mail box annex who was getting rent checks from her tenants was having the same problem. "

How is a customer of Hawk's going to steal another customer at the mail annex's mail?

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"Myself and the manager have been calling him and trying to get him to return the orders or money orders at least but he is trying to deny the whole thing and blame it on his wallet being stolen. "

Why is the manager of the mail annex calling him (the thief) if the thief is an employee of Hawk's? There is at least as much evidence that the thief is an employee of the mail annex as there is that he is an employee of Ryche's..
And as for the "if he uses the out of town/newguy bs as an excuse to not answer emails for the next month" complaint, Hawks says that THE EMAILS ABOUT THE THEFT PROBLEM WILL BE ANSWERED during the month that he is gone...cultivation questions will not, but others will.

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: delysid_1]
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> He does NOT say that this was an employee of the po box company

well in the conversation i had with hawk, he told me that it was an employee of the mail annex that he uses to send out orders.. aparently this dude's been openin' up packages to hawk and other businesses which use the same service. hawk told the supervisor at the mail place, they double checked and found that the employee was infact openin' mails and stealing packages. hawk probably got the guy's phone number from the guy who ran the mail place so that he could confront the thief about the stolen goods. now as i understand it, packages were stolen as well. from my correspondance with hawk, i was led to believe that he received my letter and the order, and even told me he had sent out the order 2-3 weeks ago. well i hadn't received it, and still haven't (it's now been well over a month), so they guy was aparently stealing outgoing packages as well.

as for the whole wallet issue, i don't really understand it. i thought the theif denied stealing anything... and if he did, it would seem stupid of the theif to blame not having the money orders/cash on his wallet being stolen... but anyways, that's neither here nor there.. the point is, i'm sure ryche will do everything to work out the situation and all the people who sent in orders by MO/paypal will receive their shit... just give it some time


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: delysid_1]
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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Anno]
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Anno, I fully agree with you. I am in the same situation: completely unrelated to THE, defending out of respect and disgust. (for hawk and in response to some of the posts in response, respectively)
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I have a very low tolorance for ignorant people, so here goes for all you who have trouble reading:

"A customer emailed me ((Thanks Beth )a copy of the cashed money order and I did not know the person. " CASHED, not deposited. And someone with whom he was not familiar.
"I had the manager at my mail box annex set up a sting. I told him what was going on and had him check the incoming mail from the postal worker to see if it was opened, then count the mail and put it back. Wait a day and count it again.
Well it only took one day for the thief, Rob Matt Nyderg to steal some mail. I knew it was this guy, he goes by Matt. "
The manager checked the box before and after a day had passed. Ryche obviously did not check the mail during this time. If this is not a large post office or mailbox center, there are a limited number of employees. Even fewer employees would have access to the boxes.
Also, now with the manager involved, someone who would know his own employee, his phone number, and his nickname, more info as to who the guilty probably was. They caught him in the act, or nearly so.
"Myself and the manager have been calling him and trying to get him to return the orders or money orders at least but he is trying to deny the whole thing and blame it on his wallet being stolen. "
If the key was in his wallet, or his ID (what one uses to cash a MO) then this would be the impetus for the excuse.
also notice here the manager being involved, if this were an employee of ryche, there would be no PO box office manager involved.
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if these money orders work like the ones people I know use to pay rent, they can be cashed by anyone with an ID at any bank or check cashing location. Around here many stores, liquor, general grocery, etc. have the ability to cash a money order. The name of the person who cashes the MO is recorded, however.
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If you do not like ryche, just say so. If you have vested interestes elsewhere, say so. Just like the defensive accusations by mcman and co. regarding supposed image alteration by ryche. Nothing more than pipe dreams and flames. Mcman and ralphster, on the other hand, DID alter/misrepresent images. Look what is happening now with the return of Mr. G: he is throwing accusations at nearly everyone, in unfortunately poor grammar.

God-damnit can't we just get along?
What is with all the childish bickering?
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in reply to the person who answered my previous post, i was reffering to people i know personally. They have allways been well treated, and replacements were provided after failure due to _their_ methods.
I am defending ryche because, dispite being slow with order processing at times, he has come through. Even people who criticise him or complain, eventually are satisfied. I think he should work on his speed and customer service, but that is a buisness logistics concern.

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this place is supposed to be about SUPPOSED to be about support and information, not dick measureing and pissing contests. Helping those new and eager and refineing those old and experienced, not bitching and kniving..

in most industries, if you trash talk someone without proper justification, or if you do so inapropriately, it is called slander and libel. Just because ryche operates on the fringe of the law does not mean you have the right to disrespect him, and by extention all those who are effected by or read your drivel.

can't we all just get along?


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: DinoMyc]
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Allright, you guys may be right. After looking through some of my previous posts I realize that I am probably blowing this way out of proportion. I really don't want to just mindlessly flame hawk. He does have a reputation as always coming through, and coming through with high quality spores. When 2-3 days go by with no answers to email I get worried.

Maybe it's just too easy to get behind a keyboard and make all kinds of accusations about somebody you will never meet.

So I apologize to hawk for any undue bad lipserice brought about by myself.

I will trust that you will make good this incedent.

Oh and I will not post on this topic anymore....... I mean it this time...LOL!


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: delysid_1]
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Thank you for being reasonable!
sometimes taking a moment to step back and think will pacify your initial reaction to something.
Enjoy your day everyone!


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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Hey Hawkeye! I sent $15 bucks CASH to you and apparently I am a dumbass because I did...anyone who thinks this way about people who do, can f**k off.
I sent my money a few weeksago, and have heard from you a few times. I need your email so I can get you my addy...So am I a shit out luck too?

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Penguin]
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well well that wasnt bad.

first off i read the entire thing by hawk Anno. it was quie long and i didnt catch everthing. if youll notice, by reading ALL the posts, delysid mentioned the wallet thing. i thought i had missed that and went with it. big deal. i resind my...whatever. amazingly all the other shit floated on by unmolested. Read between the lines.

Quickly Zipping Up- Peyotl


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Dymentia]
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Thanks for the support Dymentia, Chemical Smile, and Sir Trippus. Its nice to read something positive at least.

Luvdemshrooms:  Note to self.... Ignore this person.

Someone in another thread suggested giving a discount of $3 per syringe to the few ppl that lost cash orders.
That idea is certainly fair and reasonable but I hate to even ask someone for anymore money after their money was stolen.

I finally got a call from the thief, Matt. He did confess to stealing the mail after I threatened to press charges on him.
He claims to have only cashed 2 money orders and stolen maybe 10 letters tops. I dont believe him...I think it was more then that. I told him I wanted him to start paying back restitution for the money he stole. Of course the guy is broke, doesn't even own a car, and his sister is kicking him out at the end of the month. I doubt I'll ever see any money from him for a while.
The manager of the mail box annex wants to press charges on him but I dont want to pursue that and just cut my losses for obvious reasons.
I'll just have to chalk this one up as a bad experience.
HOpefully when I return I'll have something much more positive for everyone :smile:


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Peyotl]
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You are commenting things whithout reading them first? Jumping on accusations just for the fun of it? Think about it for a second man....


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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Hey everyone out there. Sorry this little tid bit of support for Ryche is comming in late, but I've been a little busy lately. I am posting to let you know that I have seen the money order that Beth sent. She had the bank fax her a copy of the money order cashed and it does have the guys signature and drivers license number written on it. Rob Matt Nyderg used her funds meant for Ryche to purchase some sports equiptment. So this is all just an aweful incident of a good for nothing theif reeking havok on our lives. Especially Ryche's. His service has always been good for me and I have to give him my support in this situation. He has more than redeemed himself as credible and a good business man in my eyes. Sorry I couldn't post this vouch earlier. I had no idea it had blown up into such a big thing on the postings so fast. There is no conspiracy for stolen money by Ryche. In fact, he sent Beth her order anyway, reguardless of who got the money. I guess some of you are just angry and looking for someone to blame. Well you know his name, blame Nyderg.

Edited by snowRider (04/17/02 04:19 PM)

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Anno]
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I have been following this thread since the beginning. Maybe I have no life, but I will cop to that. I have waited a long time for an order placed last month, but I am patient. He will not email me back, so I hope that the spores will just arrive.

But I have read many posts here before and what people consistantly say about him is he is late and does not return emails.

Well it is monday now and STILL no word from hawk. He said his email address would be posted again by sunday and it is still not. He claimed that if he did not hear back from the thief he would post his phone # here, well he hasn't. He said he was going out of town this week- well this weeks here already and still no reply to emails and still no follow up post here. He cannot even come back to the thread that HE started and ease everybodies mind. Where are you reiche? Why won't you follow up on this problem? He is demonstrating the same bad customer service and run around here on an open forum that so many people complain about.

Why won't you answer peoples questions reiche? I mean no disrespect but why will you not just Write people back and let them know about there orders? Is this too much to ask? Please reiche come to the board and prove all of us wrong, show us that you care about your customers.

Anyway that is my 2 cents.

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: slopy2nds]
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Hawk got back to me a few days ago. I was one of them effected by the theft. I lost $20 bucks. I just wanted to say; Hawk did the honorable thing (unexpectedly) and I would order from him again.

And to the guy who sent $70 dollars threw the mail ( bad ideal ) you must have money to burn. I wouldn't trust anyone with an underground order with over $20 to $30 Dollars cash. I think that's what 'escrow' is for.

You can only trust yourself in this world sometimes.
=:: Sorry for your loss ::=.

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Jsonfield]
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Hmm, well he sure is not answering my emails or anybody elses that I know of. Did he email you before or after he posted this? Anyway, I am waiting for him to email me back saying yes your order was filled or no it wasn't. That's all I want, and that is all I have asked when emailing him. I have emailed him for the last 4 days with no response. Why can't he just write back?


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: slopy2nds]
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Ok sorry for the delay in getting back to this.

I want to thank some of you that kept a level head and did actually read the whole post , such as Anno, geoskills, Dynomyc and a few others.

For those of you that did not even bother reading the thread all the way though then throwing out a bunch of trash....am I really suppose to take you people seriuos ?? Read the damn thread before passing judgment.

I'm doing my best to handle this situation. This whole incident just really bites. It could not have come at a worse time for me either.
I pulled my email addy temporarily to set up a new addy on public server that I could access while I'm out of town. Hopefully I will be able to stop by a cyber cafe from time to time. Also because I had some personal affairs to handle before I leave and could not access the emails anyway.
But since Delysid_1 thought he was doing eveyone a favor by posting my old email address he has just created more work in this whole mess.
The new email addy is thehawkseye@hushmail.com

I have been honoring most of the requests for stolen cash ordes BEFORE this post. Even though I am not incline to do so.
Very seldom will any business send you an order if they never received your cash. Think about it people.

Once I figured out the mail was stolen and not lost, and I wasn't being scammed, I knew most of these customers were genuine and not just trying to get free goods I have honored many of those requests.

Fortunatly most of our customers do not send cash. But its never been a problem until now.
The money orders are a different story. As I said it appears most of them have not been cashed. So far only one that I know of was cashed by Rob Matt Nyderg.

If you had a money order cashed and its been at least 3 weeks and you still have not got your order then definatly get a copy of it and mail it to me and I'll honor those orders. You can always scan and attach them or just snail mail it.

NOw as for a few complaints about us being slow or not answering emails. I get 50+ emails a days some weeks. Most of it people looking for FREE growing advice. To answer all this email can take several hours a day at times. This has been a part of our customer service. But it is also affecting the time to answer emails regarding orders.
Its like somebody else pointed out above. Most of the time when you send a company and email you get an automated response. I wish it were that simple.

As for orders being slow at times. Yes... I'm guilty. About every 4 months or so I get real behind and some orders take about 3 weeks to get out. I apologize to those that it may have caused an inconvience. But that does not happen all the time, just once in a while. Most of the time the orders are mailed within 1-7 days of receiving them. When I'm sending them out fast nobody is complaining or coming here giving praise either.
Lately there is such a huge emphasis on orders getting out so fast. I wish everyone would get a little more patience.
BUT....I've listened to your request.
I have been training someone for the last couple of weeks to hande orders and they will start going out much faster on a regular basis.

For those who did not read the thread correctly. This thief was not an employee of ours. He worked at the mail box annex, a privatly owned shipping outlet where we pick up our mail and sometimes drop it off. He was responsilbe for putting mail in peoples boxes. He has access to most mail that came and went from that annex, and he abused his power and started stealing.The manager of the place has expressed he will cooperate with us in any way he can to help. I'm tempted to ask him to cover the financial losses of those customers I can prove sent in a money order.

I dont know what more I can say. This is not our fault and I'm sorry it happend to us and our customers. This could happen to any vendor here. But unforutnatly it happened to us. We've been around for a very long time and enough people know we are good honest vendors and do our best to fix problems when they arise. 99% of the time our customers are very happy with our service and have stuck with us. This mail theft problem has never happened before. Unitl this past month you never read comlaints from people saying they "never" get their order from us.

Even though I am apologizing for this thiefs actions, I am sorry some of our customers are affected by this. Hopefully everyone will understand. But some wont and I just have to accept that.



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Edited by Ryche Hawk (04/15/02 03:50 PM)

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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shame on you who asume

THE has been here for a long time longer than most of you and hey things happen he isn't some big corperation with big money and lots of employees to fix stuff
hes one person and saying that i think he does a damn good job ive had some orders take awhile to get to me but have you ever ordered anything else through the mail some companys take over six weeks to send you shit

please be patient he wont screw you if he made a habit of screwing people why is he still here, i hope some of you own your own buisness some day it can be hell, !shit happens!, but the hawk has always tryed to make people happy all we can do is live and learn people

thanks ryche for putting up with the flames and taking the time to clear this up, some people just have nothig better to do

JUST A NOTE: to prevent tampering with letters containing cash, scotch tape the flap on the envelope as well as seal it

it wont completly stop tampering but if tampering occurs it will be imposible to cover up

it also wont stop stealing of the leter its self but with all the other payment options avalable one should not send anything over 20 bucks in cash


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Edited by Sir_Trippus (04/16/02 02:03 AM)

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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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Only an idiot sends cash through the mail.

And when are all of you who buy from this guy going to get tired of his never ending excuses?


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Re: a problem with STOLEN MAIL from T.H.E. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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In my experience T.H.E. has been a little bit slower than others but always provides nice cleen black syringes. My emails were always answered promptly. I am only one customer but a satisfied customer. I think Ryche is a standup guy who has done alot for the comunity and doesnt deserve all this shit. Sending cash is just a dumb idea especialy when just about every gas station sells money orders. Good luck Ryche, I hope this family trip is a nice vacation and not a emergency.

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