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SneezingPenis
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French newspaper reports Osama Dead
#6092455 - 09/23/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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PARIS (Reuters) - A French regional newspaper quoted a French secret service report on Saturday as saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan last month.
L'Est Republicain printed what it said was a copy of the report dated September 21 and said it was shown to President Jacques Chirac, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and France's interior and defence ministers on the same day.
"According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," the document said.
"The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al Qaeda was a victim while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs."
The report, which was stamped with a "confidential defence" label and the initials of the French secret service, said Saudi Arabia first heard the information on September 4 and that it was waiting for more details before making an official announcement.
Officials contacted by Reuters in Chirac's and Villepin's offices had no immediate comment.
A senior official in Pakistan's interior ministry said: "We have no information about Osama's death."
Saudi-born Bin Laden was based in Afghanistan until the Taliban government there was overthrown by U.S.-backed forces in late 2001. Since then, U.S. and Pakistani officials have regularly said they believe he is hiding somewhere on the rugged border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The last videotaped message released by bin Laden was in late 2004, but there have been several low quality audio tapes released this year.
(Additional reporting by Islamabad bureau)
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlen...ADEN-FRANCE.xml
Im still pretty sure that no american news source has reported on this yet.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: SneezingPenis]
#6092464 - 09/23/06 03:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have seen several reports like this as I'm sure you have.
Thanks for the report.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: zorbman]
#6092504 - 09/23/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"secret service report on Saturday as saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that...."
so in other words, they know a guy.. that knows a guy...
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: kotik]
#6092519 - 09/23/06 05:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So... "Bin Laden died in Pakistan"
-Is great for the US so it can turn up the diplomatic pressure on Musharraf. -Is great for the US because it's a good propaganda coup against Al Qaeda. -Is great for the US because they don't have to look for him anymore.
While this could be the truth, it could equally be psyops in action. Let's see what will happen in the coming days.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: SneezingPenis]
#6092556 - 09/23/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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it was none other than musharraf who had reported OBLs death from kidney failure as early as december 2001...personally..im more inclined to believe that this is the case (or that he might even have been dead before 9/11)..which would mean that (from that point on) OBL and al-Q were entirely figments of karl roves' imagination...and any fool with a camcorder could have made those videotapes too...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/19/gen.musharraf.binladen.1.19/index.html
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Musharraf: bin Laden likely dead
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) --Pakistan's president says he thinks Osama bin Laden is most likely dead because the suspected terrorist has been unable to get treatment for his kidney disease.
"I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a ... kidney patient," Gen. Pervez Musharraf said on Friday in an interview with CNN.
Musharraf said Pakistan knew bin Laden took two dialysis machines into Afghanistan. "One was specifically for his own personal use," he said.
"I don't know if he has been getting all that treatment in Afghanistan now. And the photographs that have been shown of him on television show him extremely weak. ... I would give the first priority that he is dead and the second priority that he is alive somewhere in Afghanistan." U.S. officials skeptical
In Washington, a senior Bush administration official said Musharraf reached "reasonable conclusion" but warned it is only a guess.
"He is using very reasonable deductive reasoning, (but) we don't know (bin Laden) is dead," said the official, who requested anonymity. "We don't have remains or evidence of his death. So it is a decent and reasonable conclusion -- a good guess but it is a guess."
The official said U.S. intelligence is that bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate electricity in a mountain hideout."
Other U.S. officials contradicted the reports of bin Laden's health problems, saying there is "no evidence" the suspected terrorist mastermind has ever suffered kidney failure or required kidney dialysis. The officials called such suggestions a "recurrent rumor."
Gen. Tommy Franks, the commander of U.S. forces in central and southwest Asia, said Friday that he had not seen any intelligence confirming or denying Musharraf's statements on bin Laden's condition.
The United States has said that bin Laden is the prime suspect in the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that killed about 3,000 people. Hunt for bin Laden
The United States launched its campaign in Afghanistan after the country's ruling Taliban refused to turn over bin Laden.
Earlier this week U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said he believed bin Laden and Taliban spiritual leader Mullah Mohammed Omar were inside Afghanistan but "we are looking at some other places as well from time to time."
Rumsfeld noted there were dozens of conflicting intelligence reports each day and said most of them were wrong. Most of the reports are based on sightings by local Afghans that cannot be verified.
There are reports that bin Laden and his convoys have been sighted recently by a Predator unmanned aerial vehicle.
A senior Defense Department source said the lack of credible information about the two was so severe that many officials believe the U.S. would catch bin Laden or Omar only through pure luck, or an "intelligence break" -- essentially one of their associates turning them in.
Top CIA analysts who track bin Laden and Omar have been asked for their best assessment on the two men's whereabouts. That has led to a variety of thoughts, placing bin Laden in Afghanistan, in Pakistan or Iran, on the open ocean onboard a ship, or headed north through Tajikistan or Uzbekistan -- if he is still alive.
The videotape seen worldwide several weeks ago of bin Laden talking about the September 11 attacks was made in Kandahar. He then apparently disappeared -- possibly going north to Tora Bora.
Franks said there was evidence bin Laden was in Tora Bora but he gave no indication of when that might have been. In October, intelligence officials thought they had bin Laden pinned down to a 10-square-mile area in the eastern central mountains of Afghanistan.
Two senior military officers told CNN it would not have been hard for bin Laden to change location several times because vast areas of Afghanistan are virtually unseen by the U.S. military, and he would have been even harder to spot if he moved without his telltale large security contingent.
Even before the war, bin Laden moved around frequently, making it difficult for the United States to determine his location and launch an attack against him.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Annapurna1]
#6092654 - 09/23/06 08:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bush is gonna be soo pissed he's dead. now they have to pump up a new big bad wolf to scare all the christo-facist dummies in middle america. well we'll always have iran i guess. mark my words, conervatives are soooo fucking predictable in the way they control their sheep. you'll see fox news now constantly babbling about iran and its threat to our safety. same with limbaugh and hannity. the whole right wing political army moves in lockstep
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: KingOftheThing]
#6092665 - 09/23/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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OBL stopped being the big bad wolf years ago
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: SneezingPenis]
#6092706 - 09/23/06 09:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The neocons are the only hope for humanity.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Luddite]
#6092712 - 09/23/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Luddite said: The neocons are the only hope for humanity.
after hearing a statement like that I start to doubt our chances.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Luddite]
#6094620 - 09/23/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Luddite said: The neocons are the only hope for humanity.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: dr0mni]
#6094970 - 09/24/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dr0mni said:
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Luddite said: The neocons are the only hope for humanity.
Cant you guys just go with the flow? Watch, look at my post below
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Luddite]
#6094971 - 09/24/06 03:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Luddite said: The neocons are the only hope for humanity.
AMEN brother, NeoCons FTW
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: dr0mni]
#6094973 - 09/24/06 03:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't plugged into current world events lately, but i think that if Bin Laden really turns out to be dead, then there will be a new target to replace him, may it be the Iranian nation, or another sole terrorist figure making videos about attacking the United States or Britain ["Western World"]. There always needs to be a focus on an 'enemy of the state'. An outside threat must always be propagated amongst us, we, our neighbors, the communities, the people in order to keep consent in line. Never let your herd know that their prison cell door was never locked, otherwise the herd splits up and goes their natural ways. Keep the TV on, don't look outside.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Basilides]
#6094974 - 09/24/06 03:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Basilides said:
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Luddite said: The neocons are the only hope for humanity.
AMEN brother, NeoCons FTW
what does FTW mean, i'm new to this.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: SneezingPenis]
#6095585 - 09/24/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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God I wish this was true. It'd be hilarious if he was brought down by the #1 killer of 1753.
It does make me wonder, if Osama goes by natural causes, is it good or bad for Bush?
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Gijith]
#6095649 - 09/24/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gijith said: God I wish this was true. It'd be hilarious if he was brought down by the #1 killer of 1753.
It does make me wonder, if Osama goes by natural causes, is it good or bad for Bush?
I just heard on the radio the other day, I think Jeff Greenfield on Imus, that he said something to the effect that if you are worried that good news is bad for your party you might be a little too partisan. From your previous posts I don't recall you being a kneejerk Bush-hater who regrets that the country isn't in a deep depression and losing 1,000 troops a day. But there are those who do. Bush no longer has to win any elections ever again and how he is perceived by future generations is of no concern to me, so in answer to your question, who gives a shit?
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: zappaisgod]
#6095699 - 09/24/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Curious minds, I guess. It wouldn't affect my opinion of him. I think it would be an interesting way of gauging the public's perceptions of justice or responsibility.
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: AlteredAgain]
#6095700 - 09/24/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"for the win"
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Re: French newspaper reports Osama Dead [Re: Krishna]
#6097706 - 09/25/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even when he does die, we're all going to think it's a cover up anyway. Then someone new will replace him. And thus the cycle continues.
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