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Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate
    #6087211 - 09/21/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hello all,
I'm currently beginning my first attempt at cultivating mushrooms. Currently, my agar is covered in mycelium, and I'm ready to cut and place in my jars to allow the mycelium to spread.
I have decided to use Bird Seed as my substrate, unfortunately after carefully following the Birdseed i have a feeling something has gone wrong. After i rinse and clean the birdseed, then drain re-rinse, i soak for 12hours. Which creates a fermented smell and a thick film and bubbles on the surface of the water.
The problem i have comes either during rinse or soak. After draining, re-rinsing, I go to simmer the seed. The water appears cloudy and when i leave it simmer for a few minutes before stirring again, i notice a large build up of white goo(best word I can think of to describe this substance). I decided to go ahead with the Pressure cooking of the jars. I decided not to add the Agar to the jars, just in case. Sure enough 2 days later I notice a large build up of this same looking goo. Although it may just be from having water in the jar from putting wet seeds in with the goo on them.

So here are my few questions:
How well does bird seed need to be rinsed?
After soaking the seed how do i remove the build up of substances in the water?
Where is this Goo coming from?
Do i dry the seeds after simmering to keep the inside of the jars dry?
After pressure cooking, should there be moisture in the jars?
Is it easier to use popcorn kernels?
Links to Popcorn Tek would be appreciated.

Thank You All,
Gardener.

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Re: Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate [Re: GodsGardener]
    #6087267 - 09/21/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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How well does bird seed need to be rinsed?



Just rinse it for a few seconds under running water.

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Where is this Goo coming from?



That goo is probably from burst kernals due to over-simmering. WBS does not require simmering. I simply soak it for 12-24 hours, rinse and drain it and load it into the jars.

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After soaking the seed how do i remove the build up of substances in the water?



Rinse the seed under running water.

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Do i dry the seeds after simmering to keep the inside of the jars dry?



Not necessary. Just drain it well.

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After pressure cooking, should there be moisture in the jars?



Some beads of moisture visible on the sides of the glass is okay; standing water is not.

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Is it easier to use popcorn kernels?



Popcorn makes poor spawn.


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Re: Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate [Re: dog]
    #6087387 - 09/21/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Amazing response, thank you very much, skipping the simmering process will help me avoid busting open the seeds. Now i can go back and re-do all that seed. Unless you know a way to remove the Goo, but i have a feeling re-doing it will be the easiest way. :laugh: Thank you so much

G.Gardener
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Re: Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate [Re: GodsGardener]
    #6087424 - 09/21/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have never used popcorn but I did use cracked corn and had good results

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Re: Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate [Re: GodsGardener]
    #6087455 - 09/21/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just for fun, let's say i wanted to use a jar of busted seeds... what kind of results would come of that? I know some one out there already experimented with this, so i wouldn't have to. Let's hope one fo those poeple read this :wink:

G.Gardener

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Re: Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate [Re: GodsGardener]
    #6096912 - 09/24/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Thank you so much



You're welcome.  :thumbup:

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let's say i wanted to use a jar of busted seeds... what kind of results would come of that?



Slow colonization and probable failure due to bacterial contamination.


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Re: Birdseed/Popcorn Kernals Substrate [Re: dog]
    #6097008 - 09/24/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

im beginning a popcorn substrate right now for lack of a better sunstrate. Looked for rye, couldn't find it. Probably could find some birdseed, but for some reason, just went with the organic popcorn kernels. i dont see why it wouldnt work. ill keep you updated on the success or failure(hopefully not)if you would like to know from a primary source.

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