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EveryMum Registered: 11/11/06 Posts: 1,099 Loc: North-East Last seen: 10 years, 5 months |
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P.S. Reg. sleep and at least 6-7 hours at a shot, vitamins and EXERCISE will give energy. Work out jogging in place with small weights in your room if you can't go jogging or swimming. It's SOOOO good! I know someone who gave up drugs and started jogging for a high and he's very happy with it.
-------------------- My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others! Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me, Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me, What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in
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Stranger Registered: 07/16/06 Posts: 168 Last seen: 4 years, 5 months |
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Quote: This is very well described, I have been in that exact place and I have tried to tell other people what was going on after the trip and could not put it into words, but you have painted it perfectly. sounds like it was life stepping stone trip just like the one i had good vibes to you sir!!!
-------------------- "Its A circular vortex..."
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Imagine ![]() Registered: 10/04/05 Posts: 348 Loc: Here, now. Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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Soooo here is something a bit personal, but I want to know what you guys think. I just found this. I had written it 3 years ago, about 2 years before the trip, the night before Christmas when I was overwhelmingly depressed for some reason. It really plays into a lot of things from the trip, and I want to know if anyone sees the correlations and maybe can give me some incite. I feel like I answered all of this with that trip, it kind of freaked me out when I found this. It is a bit long, but here:
Quote: -------------------- "You must be the change you want to see in the world." - The trip of a Life Time. Indra's Net - There is an endless net of threads throughout the universe. The horizontal threads are in space. The vertical threads in time. At every crossing of threads there is an individual. And every individual is a crystal bead. The great light of absolute being illuminates and penetrates every crystal being, And every crystal being reflects not only the light from every other crystal in the net, But also every reflection of every reflection throughout the universe. -cK Edited by ck10n3 (01/29/07 11:59 PM)
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Being of Great Significance Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 7,152 Loc: Time and Space |
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Very interesting, thank you for posting that. Reminds me of some of the thoughts I've had while depressed.
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Stranger Registered: 08/04/06 Posts: 22 Last seen: 16 years, 2 months |
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Great report man! Some of the most important battles of life are won by surrendering. I would like to tell my point of view of this matter. What I got from my journeys was that God created everything he made the earth and everything on it to be as one. Making us "humans" to be the Shepperd's of the earth. When things were first made it was perfect. Things worked perfect. We could hear ,think, smell,see,feel & were perfect. There was no death "blood shed" or evil. We were just another creation like the animals but just above them created in the image of God. Growing mushrooms is just like how it was back then. There can be no bacteria "bad stuff" in the growing environment. If bad bacteria gets in then the whole medium is breached taking over resulting in no good fruit "mushrooms"and being trashed. God made the earth bacteria free "no evil" but we allowed Satan one of God's angels that wanted to be God himself and turned against his own creator to come in and from that day evil took over. God shut the door of that world allowing death and pain to rule. But that was our choice. I believe that the doors of our minds were shut as well. The bible says that God created the earth and called it good. And its up to us to find out how to use these things he's made for the good of mankind and the earth. The devil is a wolf in sheep's clothing but we were made in the image of God himself and if Satan was there to trick man in the beginning he'll be there to trick you. I believe mushrooms "psilocybin" are a key God has made to enter the place we lost. The key to unlock the door for a few hours. Its a reminder of what we lost. But Satan is the king of darkness and if the truth is light to the mind and the truth will set you free then Satan wants to put you in darkness and bind you with lies. Mushroom allow you to see that you are like God but Satan comes along and tells you that you are God and that you are Christ. And that its up to you to save the world. But its not true. Forget what you have heard from your family and friends and go pick up a King James vision of The Holy Bible. No I'm not trying to preach I'm just saying is that it is the most well kept book of the history of our planet. Like I said you'll see how the Bible relates to growing mushrooms. God says there can be no sin "bad stuff" in the world I created for you it needs to be clean, pure and perfect "undefiled". Just like when growing mushroom you have to start with a sterile environment clean, pure "undefiled" no bad stuff so that it can grow and do what its made to do and bring forth fruit. And if any bad stuff gets in it takes over and then the whole thing needs to be trashed. But you can start over fresh and thats what God did for us when he flooded the whole earth to get rid of the bad stuff and to start over fresh. But we again allowed bad stuff back into our lives. But God said he would never flood the earth with water again. And thats why he sent His only BEGOTTEN son "born of a woman" to come and live on the earth but without taking in the bad stuff "sin" or you could say doing evil things. And giving himself as a sacrifice because God said no sin "bacteria" can be in Gods prescience. So thats why Jesus died so that our sin would be covered "not seen by God" and we would not be thrown out into dearness with Satan and his followers in the end. Its just like if you didn't see the bad bacteria in your mushroom grow jar then you would put it in with the other clean jars and not throw it away but save it and take care of it. Thats why we must believe and receive Jesus as our Lord and savior from being put out into darkness. Don't let Satan confuse and trick you and try lead you away when God is reveling his most keep ed secrets. In the end of your life when God looks at you soul will he see "bacteria" bad stuff and throw you out off his site or will he see Jesus covering your sin "bad stuff" allow you to be with the other saved and kept ones. The Bible says we are vessels "jars" that God made to hold our eternal soul. Just like the jars you put your sterilized "without bacteria" grain in to grow mushrooms. The first people God created were made perfect without imperfection "flaws" but later they allowed Satan to lead them to bad stuff and they let it enter there lives. And from that day forth all their kids were born with this imperfection "flaw or cracked" witch is acceptable to sin"bad stuff. Just like if the maker of the jars you were using to grow mushrooms was selling cracked jars that allowed bad bacteria in. Will you in the end produce good fruit or be thrown away to be with the other bad stuff "corrupted souls"? Heaven is like the invisible force you cant see when holding two magnets against each other. Its real but you just cant see it "yet". The Bible says we see now like looking through a dark glass but when we see him well see clearly. Satan is the father of lies. God is TRUTH! The Bible isn't a religious book the world has turned it into but its a Love letter from God himself to let us people who were not living then to know why he did things and that he still love us. Church is great but God is better. Don't worship mushrooms!! Worship the one who created it "God-Jesus". I love mushroom for what they do but through time Ive learned its just a tool. Peace..In regards to telling people about your insight remember to always speak with shallow words till you know ones depth. Thanks!!
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Imagine ![]() Registered: 10/04/05 Posts: 348 Loc: Here, now. Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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The Vimalakirti Sutra says: "It is very difficult to convert people because their minds are as intractable as monkeys.' They use many different methods to guard against conversion; and only gradually, after a long time, might they bring their minds under control. Therefore, when the mind stirs, all sorts of things are created; and when the mind is annihilated, all sorts of things are destroyed. In this manner, everything human beings, Devas, the six ways of sentient existence is created by the mind. If you wish to understand the truth or achieve the reality of no-mind, just stop all accessory conditions; i.e., suddenly and absolutely do not allow false thoughts and discriminatory ideas to arise. Without others, there is no self, no greed, no hate, no love, no abhorrence; neither is there victory or defeat. So just eliminate all delusions, and what remains is the Original Bright Nature Bodhi and Dharma. If you do not understand this, then even though you study extensively and practice diligently and even though you lead a simple life, but never come to recognize your own Mind, you will finally only bear the fruit of evil action, perhaps becoming a deva-mara, a heretic, or a god of water or land. So what benefit is there at all in such practice! Master Chi Kung said, the Buddha-Nature is your own Mind, so how can you search for it or find it through words and concepts?' Just recognize your own Mind and stop thinking; then the false thoughts and all the troubles of the world automatically disappear. The Vimalakirti Sutra says: Just as a person confined in bed by illness who is resting to get well, do not allow any thought to arise. Just as a person lying in bed with an illness trying to cure himself, stop all activities that aggravate the illness. When false thoughts stop, Bodhi appears.' Now, if your mind is in great confusion, even if you arrive at the stage of the Three Vehicles and practice all the stages of a Bodhisattva's progress, you will still only remain hovering between the worldly and holy views. One should realize that everything is impermanent, that all power declines; just as an arrow shot up into the sky, expending the energy of the thrust, falls to earth, so human beings continuously revolve through the various states of transmigration, birth and death. If we do not understand the Dharma and practice, and instead only continue suffering and working in ignorance, achieving nothing, isn't this a great error?"
The Vimalakirti Sutra says: Eliminate everything!' The Lotus Sutra says: Try to shovel out the dung from your mind that has been piling up for the last twenty years or so. Just eliminate the view of place and form from your mind, and automatically the dung of sophistry will be wiped out. Then and only then will you realize that the Tathágata Store is originally only void-ness. So the Sutra says: All Buddha-lands are truly void.' If you think that any Buddhas have attained Enlightenment by learning and practice, you will find no support for such a view. -------------------- "You must be the change you want to see in the world." - The trip of a Life Time. Indra's Net - There is an endless net of threads throughout the universe. The horizontal threads are in space. The vertical threads in time. At every crossing of threads there is an individual. And every individual is a crystal bead. The great light of absolute being illuminates and penetrates every crystal being, And every crystal being reflects not only the light from every other crystal in the net, But also every reflection of every reflection throughout the universe. -cK
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Imagine ![]() Registered: 10/04/05 Posts: 348 Loc: Here, now. Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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Quote: "Its real but you just cant see it 'yet'." The Mind cannot be transmitted; to tacitly understand is transmission. The Mind can perceive nothing at all, but nothingness is true perception. The tally is not the tally; also, nothing is not nothing. Do not remain in Illusion City, Or you'll mistake the pearl on your forehead; Be aware, the word "pearl" is only an expedient, For how can Illusion City have any form? Only the Mind is Buddha, The Buddha without birth. So know directly that "it is!" Without seeking or acting. For a Buddha to seek Buddha is just a waste of energy. If you let a Dharma-view arise, you'll only fall into Mara's realm. Don't separate the worldly and the holy; then seeing and hearing will disappear. Just like a clear mirror, be without mind, and there is no competition with things. Just like the bright void, be without thinking, and you contain the ten thousand things. The Three Vehicles are outside of the Dharma, But to know this is rare in a kalpa's course. When one attains such realization, then He is the Hero Who Leaves the World. -------------------- "You must be the change you want to see in the world." - The trip of a Life Time. Indra's Net - There is an endless net of threads throughout the universe. The horizontal threads are in space. The vertical threads in time. At every crossing of threads there is an individual. And every individual is a crystal bead. The great light of absolute being illuminates and penetrates every crystal being, And every crystal being reflects not only the light from every other crystal in the net, But also every reflection of every reflection throughout the universe. -cK
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Stranger Registered: 01/25/07 Posts: 23 Last seen: 16 years, 7 months |
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Very interesting, i have experienced likewise but not as convincing.
Since you are talking about enlightenment, i hope you wont be bothered my the cruelty in the pointers caused by my restlesness. For a highly realized being, your attention is too much focused on your appearance! Also, i find you feel disconnected from the world, not loose. If you wanted to change the world and be whatever, let no one stop you, become the example of the perfect human, meditate daily, think and live love and compassion, practice every chance you get, speak only when you know what you are going to say and perhaps most important of all; you noticed how hard people understand your feeling, relative your knowledge into a package someone who never thought about drugs or religion can understand it and build to the realization all the best, may you change the world ![]() too bad this guy is already 50 days away, what would he be doing now? -------------------- We already share the sun, ?why can't? we share the earth
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Imagine ![]() Registered: 10/04/05 Posts: 348 Loc: Here, now. Last seen: 15 years, 8 months |
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I'm getting into my upper level religion courses and learning more and more. Things are still very confusing. I am getting my life in order. Spirituality has not taken a super priority in my life. I do not quit know how to gain the motivation to make practice everyday or even to remember to do some meditation. That is the only advice I have heard. Meditate, have you tried meditating?, meditation will help get those same results. Same same same, but I still have not followed suit.
I still don't know if I quite believe myself. I am maturing though, and I feel somehow more in touch with things. I still need help and so does the world. I am actually writing a paper analyzing this experience right now, and I have come across a brilliant article called Nonduality, Language, and the Buddhist Doctrine of Anatman (http://crossingboundaries.gsa.ua As I got out of the gym today I realized how nice it was to be silent, and just look around at things. It was very soothing, and coming down from an extremely strenuous workout I felt amazing mentally and physically. I came up with the idea that I should go a week without talking. Is this possible in this day and age? No, so I thought about maybe just a weekend. I also thought about going camping once a month. Then I put the ideas together and came up with camping trips once a month where I will go and sit silently in the woods by myself for a weekend once a month. If I can keep up with this then I should be in good shape in a while from now. I'll keep coming back here to tell you guys my story as I have been vaguely doing. By the way those earlier posts with Buddhist scriptures were immature of me. I do not know what those truly imply and to use them as rhetoric is silly and ostentatious. I am trying to be more humble. -------------------- "You must be the change you want to see in the world." - The trip of a Life Time. Indra's Net - There is an endless net of threads throughout the universe. The horizontal threads are in space. The vertical threads in time. At every crossing of threads there is an individual. And every individual is a crystal bead. The great light of absolute being illuminates and penetrates every crystal being, And every crystal being reflects not only the light from every other crystal in the net, But also every reflection of every reflection throughout the universe. -cK Edited by ck10n3 (12/09/07 11:23 PM)
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EveryMum Registered: 11/11/06 Posts: 1,099 Loc: North-East Last seen: 10 years, 5 months |
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ck...whatever background you come from is usually a good place to start your research on spirituality. That's what I did and I can't say I never looked back but I stayed doing research in it and only after I was satisfied that it was me I had discovered and not some past pre-shadow of me (if that's not too weird) was I able to start incorporating any of the practices into my daily routine. Start with one daily ritual with meaning (not by rote) like a quite introspective time right before bed summing up you day asking yourself what you accomplished for yourself, for others and to connect through those achievements and interactions which you *judge as positive to a higher power as you understand it and decide to aim or re-aim towards fixing ONE, and one only, of the things you felt were negative. This could be worth something to ya...one day or never...take it as it comes...well meant.
![]() *I'll advise you to ask an objective party/mentor to help you assess the moral value of things in the grey areas of life. After Hollywood tired with learning mysticism called: "kabala" they jumped on the mussar wagon. This approach of self-introspection is from the teachings of a life-code of morality called: "mussar". A searcher like yourself could go further with it than they ever will, believe me. Spoiled children in adults bodies over there. ![]() Good luck.. -------------------- My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others! Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me, Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me, What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in
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Part ofEverythin Registered: 12/16/07 Posts: 3 Last seen: 16 years, 3 months |
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First of all Bravo! I loved this post.
Secondly, this made me re-register, as I have not been an active member for 2 or 3 years. I forgot my name before. ddude or something. So hello all shroomery members. you all rock! Now, I just wanted to say that your post describes a few of my mushroom experiences I have had almost to a "T". It's hard to put those type of trips into words. I usually need above 4 grams to have something of that immensity happen to me. Just keep going. I remember after my first experience with "death" on mushrooms and I felt like my entire reality was changed and I had to recover for about 5 months or so before I even considered diving into the mushroom experience again. You will be okay no matter how terrifying or awe-inspiring it might be. I would also like to say that instead of being other's "Saviour" now, just try to be your own saviour by re-creating your life in the best possible way to show everyone who you really are. Then eventually others will start to ask "why are you so happy?" "where is all of YOUR drama?" "why are you 'different'?" things like that. I believe those are the perfect times to open up and talk about your experiences. When people ask other people for advice/help, they are usually much more receptive than if you were to shove it down their throat when they didn't ask for it. The people that really are close to you will stay close. Let all others just go their own way. Thanks for the great post ck10n3! It made me get back to posting on here. Peace -------------------- We are all One.
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Always changing ![]() Registered: 09/11/06 Posts: 230 Last seen: 12 years, 10 months |
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Hi, I read nearly all of page one and I'd like to say that I really enjoyed your post. I'm a freshman college student and I took 38g wet with my best friend in high school the summer before I went off to school. I experienced much of the same ideas such as universal consciousness (Everything is connected), infinite love, and feeling as though I died and was just "being" without thinking. I lost most of the insight the next morning and it took me months of thinking about how I felt to get that back.
I remember one day when I "got it" and my crippling anxiety/depression was just gone. How can you be angry at the world when it's all in your perception? Similar to you, I wanted to share this with EVERYONE. If everyone could just feel how I felt, it would be beautiful. When I was tripping, I felt crazy because I thought each and every one of us was God. The message I pulled from my trip was to enjoy every single day and moment that we have here. "You must be the change you want to see in the world" is an even better way at looking at it. This kind of positive thinking is infectious, as is hate. I hope that I can better people within my sphere of influence and in turn this will spread. It's a combination of resisting falling back into worldliness (anger, materialism, resentment, etc) and spreading love to other people. I'm glad you had the trip of your lifetime. It should give all of us hope to continue living to see people changing, like you and me. We can change and lead others to the decision to change themselves. Keep struggling with how you want to feel. Every day I kick out more of that scared kid out of my personality. I feel that in time you will have total confidence in yourself in a way that those still living in "the world" can never have. Other people can see that inner happiness, although they might not know what it is about you. The biggest grin is on my face right now knowing that the world will be a better place because of you. Peace and light on your path, Arp
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