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hightimesreader
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polar and non polar solvents...
#6078896 - 09/19/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay guys, heres the question: Asuumeing that you can NOT buy DRINKING alcohol, but I want to make a shroom extract, what is a non polar solvent I could use NOT containing benzene or carcenagens(as they are deadly)but are volitle(evaperate quickly)that I can get around my Town or City. Then what is a polar solvent I can get my hands on that will evaperate and not leave behind nasty things for me to die from? House hold items or general brand names would be appreciated. -Hightimesreader
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elsig
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Some info on solvents , basic stuff but there is a list there over solvents, those with high sipole moments and dielectric constant are polar solvents, those with low numbers are non polars. methanol could be a non polar solvent you could use.
http://www.usm.maine.edu/~newton/Chy251_253/Lectures/Solvents/Solvents.html
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hightimesreader
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: elsig]
#6079036 - 09/19/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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elsig said: methanol could be a non polar solvent you could use.
But doesn't methanol not evaperate cleanly? I also heard that it contains carcenagens or benzene or it causes blindness or somthing bad like that. If not, then where can I locate methanol? -Hightimesreader
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minesstudent
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Methanol should evaporate cleanly. If you get the right stuff it should only contain methanol, however it does cause blindness and death by itself.
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Jaeger
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Get some methanol, evap it in a glass. Hold it to the light if there is no residue, it is safe to use. Let it evap thoroughly, and you won't go blind.
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Then what is a polar solvent I can get my hands on that will evaperate and not leave behind nasty things for me to die from?
Di-hydrogen monoxide is a GREAT polar solvent, a few people have died from it but it is pretty safe I have a bunch, will send you some super pure distilled for $10 a gallon.
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: Jaeger]
#6080579 - 09/19/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hightimesreader
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: Jaeger]
#6081279 - 09/20/06 04:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmmm... How would I contact you for that? If in fact, your being siriouse. By the way, how much is it originaly? -Hightimesreader
P.S. Where would I find methanol? Ie: Local drugstore, mail order..
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hightimesreader
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: minesstudent]
#6081282 - 09/20/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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minesstudent said: If you get the right stuff it should only contain methanol
So like Methnol Ether? or what? Please be spacific. -Hightimesreader
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elsig
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Quake3
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: elsig]
#6081849 - 09/20/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Methanol is sold as 'Methylated spirits' in some places. In some countries in Asia (that's where I saw this, it's probably used elsewhere) Methanol is applied to scrapes and cuts to disinfect.
The stuff causes blindness, if not death if swallowed. However, it should - as stated above - evaporate cleanly. If you're not a chemist however, I wouldn't advise messing with anything except maybe Ethanol (drinking Alcohol), if that.
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hightimesreader
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: Quake3]
#6083465 - 09/20/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That still doesnt answer my question as to an alternitive and where I can get it if you RELY on being legal to buy alcohol still. -Hightimesreader
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minesstudent
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I don't really know where you could get methanol, but methyl ether is not methanol. They are completely different, I'm not even sure what methyl ether is.
Dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous shit though. Inhalation can cause death and prolonged exposure to its solid form can cause skin death. So be careful.
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Edited by minesstudent (09/20/06 09:21 PM)
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shroomydan
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Another great bipolar solvent is Hydrogen hydroxide. Though it is easy to obtain in most places, hundreds die each year from inhaling Hydrogen hydroxide, so caution is advised.
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elsig
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: shroomydan]
#6085437 - 09/21/06 02:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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methyl ether is CH3.O.CH3 , its eherfication of methyl alc. and its no good for this purpose. i agree with using hydrogen hydroxide, its also good, it may be found under the name dihydrogen oxide instead but it will be the same thing
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hightimesreader
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: elsig]
#6088018 - 09/21/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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but im no chemist so .... couldnt I die?
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Jaeger
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The moral of this thread is that you need to do some of your own research. Figure out what dihydrogen oxide, hydrogen hydroxide, Di-hydrogen monoxide is and maybe it will drive that point home.
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trauma47645
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oh come on Dihyrdrogen monoxide is so simple to obtain. my 2 year old can get it.. 10 dollars a gallon is a little steep but i have paid as much as $1.50 for a 20 oz. bottle.
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Jaeger
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: trauma47645]
#6088078 - 09/21/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just because it is easy to get doesn't make it safe! Dihydrogen monoxide should be illegal, look what it can do if you aren't careful!
(I really don't understand how this is in Advanced Myc.)
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minesstudent
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: Jaeger]
#6090217 - 09/22/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wouldn't Acetone work? Its a polar solvent that dissolves clean. Or does it destroy what you want to get?
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Re: polar and non polar solvents... [Re: minesstudent]
#6090310 - 09/22/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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acetone is a dipolar solvent, (see link i posted in first reply), it also have a tendency to make emulsions that are inreversible. acetone is a solvent you can always find a better alternative to imo.
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