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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: inski]
    #6063986 - 09/15/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: inski]
    #6070011 - 09/17/06 05:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: inski]
    #6070323 - 09/17/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey CureCat, thanks.
Here's a pic I thought you might like :cool:

And two gill shots!

The top of the stipe on properly matured specimens seem to flatten out, shown in the second pic above!
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Ahhh!  That is a very cute millipede!  I wish I could find one.  :sad:

I like the gill shots just as much!  Hehe, in fact, I think the photo I have up on my desktop currently is one of your forked gill photos from a past unknown psilocybe find!!  :grin:


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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: CureCat]
    #6070832 - 09/17/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow, those others were sporeless?

i wonder how they started their colony in your bed?

amazing.

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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: CptnGarden]
    #6071171 - 09/17/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Probably a genetic mutation. The species may have a high rate of mutation, causing infertility... So, a fertile specimen might drop a spore, the DNA of which is this such mutant. The spore germinates and grows and eventually fruits, however the only way to replicate this mutation would be to transfer a tissue sample, OR if the species does indeed have a high rate of mutation, you could rely on another fertile specimen to release a mutant spore- KEEP IN MIND- Just because the specimen had dropped a number of infertile spores, does not necessitate that ALL of the spores be infertile! Thus, perpetuating the mutant trait, as long as a number of fertile spores contain the genetic flaw which supports the production of a percent of infertile spores at maturity.

I just woke up... Sorry if that made no sense.


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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: inski]
    #6071189 - 09/17/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I really wish I had a microscope, you are able to take mycology to a whole other level that right now I can only dream about.

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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: CptnGarden]
    #6072875 - 09/18/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hi ShroomieOfDoomie :cool:
I suspected them to be sporeless but when viewed under the scope I noticed they only produce very few spores.
Hey CureCat, I know you're interested in mutant specimens, could this mutation be caused by environmental factors or is it more likely to be genetic?
If it is environmental factors causing this would the mutation carry on in the few spores produced?
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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: inski]
    #6072918 - 09/18/06 02:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You say they grow in a green house?
Well, are there any sort of chemicals that could be effecting the mushrooms?? That is the most common environmental cause, and why mutants are far more common with grown mushrooms, as opposed to wild, which are not exposed to such altering chemicals as Lysol.

Bacterial infections can also effect the appearance of a mushroom, but are uncommon afflictions of wild mushrooms, and indoor grown mushrooms which appear mutated due to bacterial contamination also tend to look terribly sickly.

However, the mutations caused by chemicals or bacteria rarely cause sporelessness as the only visible malformation.

Sporeless mutants are usually genetically flawed.

Furthermore, environmental mutations due not tend to replicate themselves in the offspring, unless the specific mutation effected the reproductive functions of the mushroom.


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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: CureCat]
    #6072986 - 09/18/06 03:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well genetically flawed in that its just a phenotype that has sterile or a low 'spore' count. Doesnt mean its entire genetics are fucked up, more that it just has some whacky phenotype expressions.

Those last pics look like Ps.pellicosa macroscopically.

And it looks like there is considerable variability in its cystidia shapes. Are those pleuro or cheilocystidia?

Id love to have a specimen of this one to have a look at as well :smile:

I dont know what that last thing is - but the things you see sometimes on these guys are pretty weird (like my aztec-type temple strucure on that dunglover..)


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Re: The unidentified shows itself again! More pics added. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6073614 - 09/18/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Well genetically flawed in that its just a phenotype that has sterile or a low 'spore' count. Doesnt mean its entire genetics are fucked up, more that it just has some whacky phenotype expressions.





Certainly.  :smile:


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