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ZippoZ
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: Prisoner#1]
#6072994 - 09/18/06 03:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would be willing to bet that what we are seeing is a multi use facility created by fema. these can be very useful in times of pandemic or other widespread disease. just my 2 cents
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: AlteredAgain]
#6073015 - 09/18/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Civilian Inmate Labor Program http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
"* Chapter 1 o Introduction + 1–1. Purpose
This regulation provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations. Sources of civilian inmate labor are limited to on– and off–post Federal corrections facilities, State and/or local corrections facilities operating from on–post prison camps pursuant to leases under Section 2667, Title 10, United States Code (10 USC 2667), and off–post State corrections facilities participating in the demonstration project authorized under Section 1065, Public Law (PL) 103–337. Otherwise, State and/or local inmate labor from off–post corrections facilities is currently excluded from this program. "
How does all this fit in with the Posse Comitatus Act of the USA?
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: J4S0N]
#6073051 - 09/18/06 05:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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this could have come right from the mouth of god, and zappa would still refute it for not fitting within his own paradigm.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: kotik]
#6073522 - 09/18/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The unfortunate thing about that video is that without the narration it is nothing. Turnstiles are checkpoints? Yankee Stadium has turnstiles. And security. Barbed wire may be a defining characteristic of a detention camp, a sine qua non, but does the presence of barbed wire indicate that the facility is necessarily a detention camp? There's barbed wire around train yards here. Havre fun with your merry delusions
Pris, I read this forum constantly. What search words should I use to find these threads? How about this? You assert that these threads exist. That is something factual you can back up. So, how about it.
In general if only one media outlet reports something I distrust it. If several do I buy it, because there is no express conspiracy. They just tend to be fellow travelers. And I do not believe a single thing prison planet or counterpoint says. If these things exist and these retards know about it then you can bet your ass they'll be in the NYTimes and the Washington Post, because those are professional muckrakers and they want desperately to find these smoking guns. Do you know why they don't touch this stuff? Because it's bullshit. Complete unadulterated bullshit. Like Alex Jones and all the missile in the Pentagon nuts and all the controlled demo nuts and that other nut with the assassinated former congressman, I don't remember his name, and the Steven Jones nut and all the other absolutely fallacious whacko jerkoffs seeking attention and trying to sell books to gullible retards and paranoiacs.
Here's two facts:
1. (certainty level 99.9%) Islamic fanatics hijacked four airplanes on 9/11/01 and flew them into buildings and a field. Several buildings were damaged and some of them collapsed as a result of the impacts and fires.
2. (certainty level 100%) That video fails utterly to provide any evidence that what is being filmed is a detention camp.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6073541 - 09/18/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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2. (certainty level 100%) That video fails utterly to provide any evidence that what is being filmed is a detention camp.
What could these facilities be then?
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6073543 - 09/18/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i don't think that there is anything shocking about the US government preparing to house large numbers of detainees in the event of some sort of catastrophe. they have contingencies for everything. most of them were built when they were literally preparing for the end of the world.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: wilshire]
#6073872 - 09/18/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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wilshire said: i don't think that there is anything shocking about the US government preparing to house large numbers of detainees in the event of some sort of catastrophe. they have contingencies for everything. most of them were built when they were literally preparing for the end of the world.
Which is fine, except for the fact that this video doesn't provide any evidence for it whatsoever. Nor does anything else anybody has shown me. I mean, Guantanamo Bay is exactly the kind of facility you're talking about and it's no secret. This is like arguing that there really is a Santa because there are presents on Christmas ergo there must be a fat jolly guy with flying reindeer going all over the world with a bottomless sack. As opposed to the idea that people give each other presents.
I don't know what that place is. I don't know where it is. If this is some preparation for a mass detainee camp, how come only morons are reporting it? Do you really think it's because the NYTimes, et al, are in cahoots with Bush? They fucking hate him to the depths of their being. They'd love to expose something like this. Look what they did to ruin a perfectly legal NSA surveillance program. It's like exposing undercover agents to the mafia. They will do almost anything to get Bush and/or Republicans in general. So, where are they on this? Nowhere.
And now we get to the symptomology of paranoia. I've heard this shit for years and years and it almost never pans out. It's the crazy guy on the street corner constantly predicting the end of the world, which never comes. It doesn't take a reasonably curious person to believe this stuff. It takes someone predisposed to this kind of lunacy. Predisposed. You have to go into the argument wanting to believe these nuts because they never offer any proof, just a whole bunch of "well this could be and that could be and Roveroverovebushcheney."
It is entirely possible by the laws of physics that I could wake up on alpha centauri with your underwear on my head and Paris Hilton on the end of my dick. It COULD happen. But it won't. Guess how many 9s I'll put in my level o'certainty meter on that one.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: ZippoZ]
#6073972 - 09/18/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zippoz said: I would be willing to bet that what we are seeing is a multi use facility created by fema. these can be very useful in times of pandemic or other widespread disease. just my 2 cents
That's what I was thinking.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: Redstorm]
#6074168 - 09/18/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Like I said somewhere earlier, it certainly does have characteristics of train yards and generic secure industrial sites. There is nothing suspicious here. There may be something suspicious there but that video doesn't show it. The place is perfectly innocuous (and yes, I watched it. If you watched it with the sound off all you would say is Yeah, what's the point?) There is no evidence in the video that supports the contention that it is a detention camp. It may well be a detention camp but that video offers absolutely no evidence that that is so.
Let's have a show of hands. How many of you have ever even seen a secure rail yard, a commercial port facility, a secure industrial park? The backyard of an airport? There is not one single feature of that place that is inconsistent with any of those things, except maybe the turnstiles, and even those aren't that big a deal. What makes turnstiles a feature of detention camps anyway? Did they have them at the Japanese internment camps? Like I said, a predilection for believing the worst. Nay, even, a desire for the worst to be true. Just so you can say "nyah nyah nyahnyah nyah Bush sucks." Get real.
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Either there are people who are planted in forums such as these for the purpose of trying to lead people away from figuring things out, or there are people who just don't think at all.
I am not a plant. Everything I post here is my honest opinion arrived at after careful consideration. I am smarter than you, better educated than you, better read than you, and more experienced than you. That is my OPINION. As far as I can tell you might be an agent of the Philodendron Liberation Front but I do not gratuitously insist that the views you hold are a product of cranial meteor strikes. You clearly did think about this. Just not very well. In my opinion.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6074199 - 09/18/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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who here said anything about Bush?
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zappaisgod
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: Vvellum]
#6074239 - 09/18/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's always BUSH, except when it's ROVE, or whoever's in power. Da Man. Given the penchant of the lunatic fringe (i.e. prisonplanet) to focus on BUSHROVECHENEY as the incarnation of evil, that's enough for me.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6074259 - 09/18/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to agree. Sorry but that would make a shite holding area for a large number of people. The areas are too large for effective crowd control, the fences are of a type that could not resist crowd pressure. CCTV is minimal, everything there is consistent with a typical goods yard. If a lot has been spent on the place, I smell pork, especially of some Federal employee's knew someone in the turnstile business, but nothing more sinister than that.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6074457 - 09/18/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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seems most people here have agreed that the area in the video probably some weirdo, pork-barrel FEMA contigency plan facility. has anyone here mentioned the bush administration besides you?
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: ZippoZ]
#6074670 - 09/18/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zippoz said: I would be willing to bet that what we are seeing is a multi use facility created by fema. these can be very useful in times of pandemic or other widespread disease. just my 2 cents
I'm willing to bet you're right
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6074821 - 09/18/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Pris, I read this forum constantly. What search words should I use to find these threads? How about this? You assert that these threads exist. That is something factual you can back up. So, how about it.
my mistake, it was in the pub, I believed it was in this forum http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5211435
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In general if only one media outlet reports something I distrust it. If several do I buy it, because there is no express conspiracy.
gadsden minute men held off the FBI for 10 days over a video tape, did you hear about that? probably not, because a couple local stations covered it for about 30 seconds before the news was hushed... of course there is never a conspiracy
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zappaisgod
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: Prisoner#1]
#6075046 - 09/18/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, was Koresh the messiah? 'Cause that's what I got when I googled Gadsden minutemen.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6075159 - 09/18/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you'd have to ask him, and I guess my point is made regarding these conspiracies and cover ups, the news isnt always going to be in more than one location, sometimes it disappears comlpetely
now try googling 'good ol' boys round-up', thats the tape the FBI wanted to 'validate'
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: Prisoner#1]
#6075228 - 09/18/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: newuser1492]
#6075369 - 09/18/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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not suprising... wouldnt want the FBI looking like a bunch of rubes try searching for the video.
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Re: Video: FEMA Detention Camp [Re: zappaisgod]
#6075498 - 09/18/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Altered, there is not one fucking thing in that video that amounts to evidence of anything at all.
Did you even watch the video?
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