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psychout
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Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. (my fourth experience)
#5842368 - 07/10/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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My fourth attempt to breakthrough on salvia.. Two of my friends and I were just chilling and watching grandmas boy and I decided I would go ahead and try salvia to see if I could get any effect on my fourth attempt.. It was 20x extract and I took a hit, held for about 15 seconds and after I exhaled I inhaled my second hit.. I started to feel a similar effect that I get when I'm stoned so I got pissed that I wasn't getting any good effects so I moved to a futon where I could lay down.. I took my third hit and thats where I felt reality start to fall apart. I laid on the futon and experienced what is hard to explain.. I couldn't really comprehend what was going on but I remember a metaphor where it feels like a book and every other second is like a new page.. It felt that with each movement I made when I sat up and looked around, reality started to try and come back by gravity pushing into me from my left side. The effect also felt very two dimensional whenever reality shot back at me.. I started to come down a little to a state of just feeling disorientated.. I could hear the actors talking in the movie (grandmas boy) and everything they said I thought was directed to me and made me feel like shit.. Another mistake was having a friend there that is pretty close to straight edge and is too egotistical to ever care about opening his mind or trying something new.. I kept feeling him getting pissed about me being fucked up on salvia, so he eventually left after realizing how gay his friends are.. I remember after I came down I was disappointed and upset that I didnt breakthrough since it wasnt quite as intense as I thought it was going to be after hearing about experienced people getting freaked off it (I've only drank alcohol and smoked weed, so I was expecting to pretty much shit myself off salvia). I also hear about people loosing complete touch with reality and actually experience different worlds, lives, and visuals of different kinds (I experienced none besides the effect of feeling disconnected from my own reality yet almost there at the same time). I really wasnt scared by the experience, if I had more I would have done it right after to try and breakthrough but the little we had I finished.. Next friday I get payed and I'm gonna try and find some more 20x then split the gram with a friend and just smoke it until we're gone, hopefully breaking through..
Edited by LSSFwa (07/10/06 01:03 PM)
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MustNotBe
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: psychout]
#5842380 - 07/10/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had the exact same effect the 3 times I tried salvia. But I only took one hit of 40x. But its cool to know I'm not the only one with those effects. I was listening to music though, and it was interesting to think they where talking to me. ( Judith - APC ) (the last time I did it)
I used to smoke it out of a metal pipe. I'm going to try a water bong now. Hopefully today
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Edited by MustNotBe (07/10/06 01:10 PM)
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habitat0789
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: MustNotBe]
#5842558 - 07/10/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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just keep taking huge hits and holding them for 30 seconds each until you lose yourself...the more salvinorum A(sp?) you get in your body the more chance of bed wetting experience. i had to smoke salvia like 8 times before i had my first breakthrough. i fell apart to dazed and confused by led zepplin, i still think that song is no good for tripping on anything after that experience.
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psychout
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: habitat0789]
#5842645 - 07/10/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I think I just need to work on getting really good hits and holding as long as possible (I accidently swallowed once when holding it in, man did that suck). I cant imagine what listening to music would be like in that state of mind.. Next time I'm turning off everything.. If I ever try shrooms, then i'll try listening to music..
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habitat0789
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: psychout]
#5842805 - 07/10/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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do it outside also like lay on a hill or something. i had the most crazy salvia trip on a hill at like 1 AM. a whole jungle grew up around me... it was nuts
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: habitat0789]
#5843150 - 07/10/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why won't you try meditation... and listening to music can stop you from breakthrough!
Learning how to "let go" could be essential - otherwise you could never "lift off".
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kija
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: Kras]
#5843574 - 07/10/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Music must be tranquil,peaceful,ambient. Words pull you out of the experience.Try some shaman drumming or flutes or nature sounds.Don't pick music that will guide your journey.Nice and easy with sally. You could be getting way more out of the amount your using,use the smallest pipe possible and half a gram of 20x is just a waist.RESPECT. Peace and love,Kija.
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psychout
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: kija]
#5844245 - 07/10/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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kija said: use the smallest pipe possible and half a gram of 20x is just a waist.RESPECT. Peace and love,Kija.
I used a bong.. Would a small pipe work better? Should I still use a butane with it?
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habitat0789
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: psychout]
#5844736 - 07/10/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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how is half a gram a waste?
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mellowrubberduck
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: habitat0789]
#5844874 - 07/10/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think he meant that using a half gram in one sitting and not getting anywhere is a waste. And, it is a waste. A half gram? That's plenty for a big group to smoke.
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: mellowrubberduck]
#5845029 - 07/10/06 11:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No use a bong...with water it makes it easier to smoke heeps of it before you start to feel a harsh sensation in the chest. Everyones different...keep trying new methods until you get a breakthrough. Good-luck...and btw... .... ..... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ..... .... ..... ..... ..... .... .... ..OMG KRAS YOUR AVATAR IT SCARES ME!
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5845412 - 07/11/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Check it, I use a very small water pipe, reg lighter and Salvia Zone Salvia (red box). Took me a couple of trys but definetly broke through. The best place i've ever tripped is in the middle of a cottom field around 8:30 PM with windows rolled up and very quiet music. Works like a charm.
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5846393 - 07/11/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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..OMG KRAS YOUR AVATAR IT SCARES ME!
Why?
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. (my fourth experience) [Re: psychout]
#6060321 - 09/14/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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See the problem I noticed is people arn't getting ENOUGH SALVINORIN-A IN ONE HIT. It metabolizes so fast, that 3 big hits in a row WILL NOT GET YOU AS HIGH AS ONE HUGE HIT HELD IN! Your brain will use up whats available in the bloodstream fast, so if you take a huge hit and held it in for 30 seconds or more, lets say you absorb 200 micrograms to become active, which is what I believe its active around. Then 200 micrograms is the effect you will get. Now lets say you take 3 small 100 microgram hits. Even though you got 3 hits and think thats alot, your body only absorbed and used 100 micrograms to start the effects. By the time you get the next hit, you may have 130 micrograms in your system, third hit 150-160 micrograms, still not as much as the one 200 microgram hit that first went straight to your brain. So you can see that one hit is better than 3, and your trip will only be as good as the INITIAL amount you absorbed.
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Re: Trying to breakthrough on salvia divinorum.. (my fourth experience) [Re: TheJakeyl88]
#6061893 - 09/14/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what people have been telling me, and what I've experienced from the few times I've smoked salvia, is that the key is to take big hits....but the key is to hold those hits as long as possible. I personally have a problem with with holding my hits for longer than 15 seconds, unless its a small hit then I can hold it for 30. When I used a little piece, I never felt anything more than light headed with a slight buzz. When I smoked out of a bong, thats when I was able to feel something pretty good. I still haven't broke through yet. I'm planning on trying the chewing leaves method if I do it again. As for your friend getting pissed at you, people who never try it, never know what its like, so they really have no reason to be upset with you, except that their just full of themselves and think everythings bad if it takes you out of reality. Ignorant and close minded. Good luck with breaking through though, hopefully we can both experience the other world with sally someday.
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