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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6064442 - 09/15/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So you will give up your personal freedoms to support a foreign nation?

To each his own, I guess.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064444 - 09/15/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Boy oh boy, you really fucked up the quote boxes above. You are very much mistaken that anybody who paints that message on their car is subject to prosecution. It simply isn't so. They can say it all they want. They just can't do it.

I'll accept the word of the 'nuck on the ground about what happened there.


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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6064478 - 09/15/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ohh, I must have misread something.

I am not saying Israel bombed them on purpose, I think it was just a lack of respect for the UN. Also, there will never be an investigation into it, unlike when an American plane bombed Canadians on the ground in Afghanistan. Countries take responsibilities for their actions, I have noticed Israel doesn't.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064577 - 09/15/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The UN should not have been there once hostilities reached that level. Their repeated useful idiocy in providing human shields for hezbollah is criminal. If anyone can be blamed for killing this guy it's Kofi Annan.
From the above mentioned link (This is the dead guy e-mailing):

"Based on the intensity and volatility of this current situation and the unpredictability of both sides (Hezbollah and Israel), and given the operational tempo of the Hezbollah and the IDF, we are not safe to venture out to conduct our normal patrol activities."


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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6064882 - 09/15/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Regardless, Israel should not have bombed a UN facility. You would think this would be a fairly simple concept.

YOU DON'T BOMB UN FACILITIES, NO MATTER WHAT!

I do agree, that they shouldn't have been there at that point, but it doesn't matter.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064942 - 09/15/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Shit happens in war. If you can't stand it get out. Not even you aver that it was a purposeful attack on a UN facility. They have an obligation not to allow themselves to be used as shields. That does matter. I think it's a big deal. How come they weren't in Tel Aviv? Nevermind, I know why. Because they didn't need to watch for Israeli atrocities and Hezbollah wouldn't give a fuck anyway. No PR value at all. Never mind. "You can turn the cameras off now. Did you get my good side? It's the left. Super."


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064950 - 09/15/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So they should have let Hezbollah fire as many missiles as they wanted right next to the UN post?


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6064970 - 09/15/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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downforpot said:
It's so that foreign entities have no hand in our national and foreign policies.



But what about business, or the rights of property?

Why should the US government have the right to prosecute me for spending my money the way I want to spend it?

I really don't know how you guys got side-tracked about Israel, for me the real issue here is about the right to contract with whomever I want whenever I want. I really don't think it's right for the Federal Government to say "We don't want you spending your money like that, we think it favors another nation's foreign policy..."

The point is, it's my money, and I'll spend it how I like.

Something else that's not usually considered is the dead-weight loss associated with this type of thing.

Do you know how anti-boycott regulations are usually policed? By forcing companies to create and produce extensive records of their purchasing, complete with knowledge of alternatives, investigations into cost differentials etc.

Then, the government will simply demand (under penalty of law, of course) that the company create LOADS of duplicate record copies and send them over to the government, usually eith employee testimony (complete with associated lost time), etc.

None of this is cheap. I can't even imagine how much money is wasted by companies who are forced to keep and maintain records documenting each and every purchase decisions along with back-up proof as to why the decision was made. And of course, those costs are passed right along to the consumer in the form of higher prices for imports, higher prices in general, etc.

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6064975 - 09/15/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Comparing the carnage in Lebanon to Israel makes me LOL.

I feel for those Israelis that had to spend all that time in the bomb shelters, I really do.  :rolleyes:

I bet the Lebanease were wishing they had bomb shelters when their houses burried them alive.

I hate Islam as much as the next guy, but a human life, is a human life.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6065010 - 09/15/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why do you feel a need to identify with the losers of a war which the losers started? Every single Israeli who suffered in that war was innocent. Only some of the Lebanese were, and all of them were under age. Now I know why you hate Israel. It's because they are not troglodyte losers begging for sympathy which only your benevolent hand can dispense. A tad too self-sufficient for you (oh this is gonna be fun).


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6065055 - 09/15/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hate Islam as much as the next guy, but a human life, is a human life.

Your disregard for humans just because they are Muslim makes me sick.

I feel bad for the Israeli civilians who lost their lives, and believe the people who fired those rockets should be brought to justice. Not the entire country.

What I hate about Israel was their mass bombardment of a country, with complete disregard for human life.

It is the same thing I hate about Hezbollah, but I thought Israel was supposed to be better than that.

Let's say there was a military faction in Canada launching rockets over the border. Would your country respond by bombing our entire nation to smithereens? No, because you are better than that.

I know it's not a great comparison, but just thought I'd use it since we are from those countries, and the military capabilities of each is kinda like Hezbollah vs Israel, lol.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6065101 - 09/15/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

alpharedecho said:
I hate Islam as much as the next guy, but a human life, is a human life.

Your disregard for humans just because they are Muslim makes me sick.

I feel bad for the Israeli civilians who lost their lives, and believe the people who fired those rockets should be brought to justice. Not the entire country.

What I hate about Israel was their mass bombardment of a country, with complete disregard for human life.

It is the same thing I hate about Hezbollah, but I thought Israel was supposed to be better than that.

Let's say there was a military faction in Canada launching rockets over the border. Would your country respond by bombing our entire nation to smithereens? No, because you are better than that.

I know it's not a great comparison, but just thought I'd use it since we are from those countries, and the military capabilities of each is kinda like Hezbollah vs Israel, lol.




Actually there wasn't a mass bombardment of Lebanon by Israel. The death toll should have been 1000 dead lebanese a day if Israel actually sent all their air power to bomb that country into oblivion.


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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6065129 - 09/15/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Touche!

I guess Israel did show restraint, I think they should have shown a little more. Come out on the moral high ground to get the world on their side. They are alienating themselves from much of the world, and it could cause trouble for them in the future.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6065136 - 09/15/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Cause more trouble for them in the future? Some1 already tried to exterminate them (us).... I don't think anything else can be as problematic. The worse thing that could happen is the Muslims conquer the region again and make the Jews second class citizens, again, then kill a few hundred thousand, again.

Also, who are they alienating? The same pussy ass countries that don't do shit when their freedoms are threatened? *COUGH* FRANCE *COUGH* Or is it the Muslim countries which made Jews second class citizens?


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

Edited by downforpot (09/15/06 03:22 PM)

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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6065168 - 09/15/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Every country besides the good old US of A.

You know, it is interesting you brought up France. Look at what the wonders of multiculturalism are doing to that country. They are headed down a very shaky road, and everyone knows why, they are just not allowed to say it.

That pertains to what we are talking about in the other thread, so other people, you won't really understand that statement.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

Edited by alpharedecho (09/15/06 03:29 PM)

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6065177 - 09/15/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Actually the only reason the Muslims started rioting is because of socialism..... FOX NEWS was blarring about it non stop and they even had a French born dude became a US citizen critisize the French economic policies which lead to all the riots. That is what happens when you try to control the economy. They were fucking asking for it.


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6065206 - 09/15/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

True, but it was mainly Muslims rioting. Had there been no Muslims in France, french cities would not have burned.

Can you imagine a group of foreigners trying to riot in a Muslim country? LOL, they would be FUCKED!


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6065222 - 09/15/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

alpharedecho said:
I hate Islam as much as the next guy, but a human life, is a human life.

Your disregard for humans just because they are Muslim makes me sick.




This is inaccurate. If Muslims weren't supporting the attacks on other people I would give not one tiny miniscule iota of a fuck about what they believe or do. A fact is that Lebanon allowed the southern part of their country to be taken over by lunatics, without a struggle or a heads up to anybody. Israel cannot be expected to accept that condition. That's it. And your fatuous moral relativism is utterly bogus. A life is a life is a life is just stupid. John Wayne Gacy's life (just as an example) does not rise to the value of the life of my wifes cat, and I hate that cat.
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I feel bad for the Israeli civilians who lost their lives, and believe the people who fired those rockets should be brought to justice. Not the entire country.




Oh, OK grasshopper. When you get Ahmadinajad in court let me know. Regardless, they let their country be taken over, and did nothing and said nothing. There were people who would have helped, but they were either too cowardly or too accepting. They had an obligation to control their territory. When you govern you have a responsibilty for what happens. That means you get fucked when you lose. Israel is not in a battle of convenience. They are constantly beset by murderous lunatics on almost all sides. Egypt and Jordan don't get bombed by Israel. That's because they neither attack Israel nor allow others to attack from their territory. The behaviour you would demand of Israel is suicidal.
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What I hate about Israel was their mass bombardment of a country, with complete disregard for human life.




This is just a lie. Collateral casualties were quite low, despite the lies of the AP and alReuters
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It is the same thing I hate about Hezbollah, but I thought Israel was supposed to be better than that.




Here's the dichotomy you seem to be struggling so mightily with
Hezbollah=agressor
Israel=defender

Get it yet. Or should they just be thrown down a well?
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Let's say there was a military faction in Canada launching rockets over the border. Would your country respond by bombing our entire nation to smithereens? No, because you are better than that.




You would be given the opportunity to stop the attacks yourself. If you failed to do that you would become a probationary state with many bomb craters to fill. And that is exactly how good we are. Exactly. (It is also an indication of how good you are that this would never happen. Yet another spurious piece of hypothetical straw men you seem to love so much)
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I know it's not a great comparison, but just thought I'd use it since we are from those countries, and the military capabilities of each is kinda like Hezbollah vs Israel, lol.




Here's the fucking deal. Hez had no reason or right to attack Israel. They don't even represent Palestinians. Lebanon needed to curtail or at least warn that there were international criminals controlling part of their country (UNIFIL.....LOL, is there on the planet a more worthless group of child molesters?). Their acquiescence was tantamount to approval. Maybe they'll figure it out next time and throw the fuckers out.
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008060.php#comments
I know it's an opinion blog by just another opinion blogger but it makes a good bit of sense to me and I'd rather be optimistic than pessimistic if it doesn't require me to put my head in the sand. I think he may be right. Do yourself a favor and read it. You'll at least understand my position better.


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6065402 - 09/15/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Israel can do absolutley no wrong to people like you. They are the chosen ones!


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6065423 - 09/15/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

They won't do wrong to us because we accept them as a nation and don't want to conquer them and place into second class status. That is why Egypt and a few other countries have peaceful relations with Israel.


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

Edited by downforpot (09/15/06 04:36 PM)

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