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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom.
    #6061788 - 09/14/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.bis.doc.gov/news/2002/umustcomply11_4_02.htm

While individuals cannot be punished for simply not buying something, you can be punished for showing support of the boycott. Also, companies can be fined and individuals can be jailed for partaking.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6062183 - 09/14/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The Arab League should just get their shit together and offer cheaper goods, then boycotts against Israel wouldn't even be needed.

With the wage differential alone it shouldn't be that hard to produce cheaper goods than the Israelis...

PS - Anti-boycott regulations SUCK

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Economist]
    #6062375 - 09/14/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.boycottwatch.org/misc/AbarbsVsIsrael-01.htm

" The antiboycott laws were adopted to encourage, and in specified cases, require U.S. firms to refuse to participate in foreign boycotts that the United States does not sanction. They have the effect of preventing U.S. firms from being used to implement foreign policies of other nations which run counter to U.S. policy.?


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6062749 - 09/14/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyone know where one could find a list of "blacklisted companies"?


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6063204 - 09/14/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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BIS has a long record of aggressive enforcement of the antiboycott regulations, with over $26 million in civil penalties imposed and denials of export privileges where violations have been found.





wow what a crock of shit.

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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6063229 - 09/14/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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downforpot said:
http://www.boycottwatch.org/misc/AbarbsVsIsrael-01.htm

" The antiboycott laws were adopted to encourage, and in specified cases, require U.S. firms to refuse to participate in foreign boycotts that the United States does not sanction. They have the effect of preventing U.S. firms from being used to implement foreign policies of other nations which run counter to U.S. policy.?




Good try, your little quote does nothing. Do you even know what you just quoted means? So if your government does not sanction free speech(like this case) it is ok. What's the deal with that old piece of paper, think it's called the constitution.

You guys are at war to spread fundamental freedoms, which you are denied.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

Edited by alpharedecho (09/14/06 11:42 PM)

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6063303 - 09/15/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's so that foreign entities have no hand in our national and foreign policies.


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6063354 - 09/15/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Keep telling yourself that. You never cease to amaze me. IDF could cut the heads off arab children, and you would find a way to twist it into being okay. You make me sick!


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6063362 - 09/15/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Except IDF would never do it because they answer to the world. When they shoot a civilian there were and will be investigations. Muslim extermists can cut off as many heads as they want and you won't say a word because they are fighting the people and ideaology that you hate.


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6063371 - 09/15/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

IDF answers to the world? Hahaha, yeah just like when they bombed that UN facility, you know, the one that called Tel Aviv 10 times telling them the bombs were getting too close. One of my countrymen died in that tragedy.

The IDF's ANSWER: "mapping error". With all their wonderful technology too.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6063382 - 09/15/06 12:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

One of your country men also said that Israel had to target it because it was being used as a shield.


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Then shot in his head
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Can't fuck with me again"

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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6063388 - 09/15/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

....


Tell that to the mans family.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064003 - 09/15/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
IDF answers to the world? Hahaha, yeah just like when they bombed that UN facility, you know, the one that called Tel Aviv 10 times telling them the bombs were getting too close. One of my countrymen died in that tragedy.

The IDF's ANSWER: "mapping error". With all their wonderful technology too.




Do you mean the UN watchdog facility that was less than a 100 yards away from a Hezbollah rocket launcher? Actively engaged in launching rockets? That one of your countrymen described thusly:
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"The Canadian soldier also said of Israeli counter fire to that date: "This has not been deliberate targeting, but has rather been due to tactical necessity."

Those words are evidence that Hezbollah was using the post as a "shield" to fire rockets into Israel, according to retired Major-General Lewis MacKenzie.

He said the phrase "tactical necessity" is military talk that indicates Hezbollah was purposely putting itself near the UN facility.

"What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the [IDF],' " he said."

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=c6f7fc18-ccb6-46a0-a24a-9d55c546bcfe&k=12828




Hate Israel all you want, I don't care about you or your opinion. You're a 'Nuck and as such have absolutely no standing to speak on American law or American foreign policy. You can blather but that is all it amounts to, blah blah blah. But I will not tolerate outright lieing, and that is what you just did, son of Moore.

As to downforpot's willingness to defend Israel if they saw the head off a Muslim child, you have absolutely no knowledge that this is so. How about this? You are so anti-Israeli you would no doubt defend Iran's nuking of Israel, with large scale destruction in Gaza, the West Bank and parts of Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon as acceptable collateral damage as long as every Zionist is wiped out. They are based on equal parts fact. We'll know what downforpot's reaction will be to Israel sawing a Muslim child's head off when they actually do it. Which even you know isn't ever going to happen. Did you stop beating your wife yet?


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6064066 - 09/15/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't have a wife yet, I am only 20.

I don't want to see any nukes get dropped on this earth.

I can really tell I have struck a nerve with you, I am sorry, but I think it's better you know about this treasonous law.

As for the UN thing, they called the proper people 10 fucking times, they should have told them to get out of there. Oh wait, anything that moved on a road in that country at the time, was blasted with missiles.

The fact is, I don't really hate Israel, I just don't give a flying fuck about the place. You Americans seem to cream your pants for the fucking place, for reasons I will NEVER understand.

You know, I would probably be as upset as you if I lived in a country where it was illegal to support a boycott of a foreign nation.

I can paint "Boycott Israel" on my car and not be arrested, unlike you.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064078 - 09/15/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
I don't have a wife yet, I am only 20.

I don't want to see any nukes get dropped on this earth.

I can really tell I have struck a nerve with you, I am sorry, but I think it's better you know about this treasonous law.

As for the UN thing, they called the proper people 10 fucking times, they should have told them to get out of there. Oh wait, anything that moved on a road in that country at the time, was blasted with missiles.

The fact is, I don't really hate Israel, I just don't give a flying fuck about the place. You Americans seem to cream your pants for the fucking place, for reasons I will NEVER understand.

You know, I would probably be as upset as you if I lived in a country where it was illegal to support a boycott of a foreign nation.

I can paint "Boycott Israel" on my car and not be arrested, unlike you.




http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/24000/article/24042

We Americans tend to care for our allies in the world and see a threat and act on it. As for other countries.... well, some of them usually hope the threat passes and everything turns out okay. Then USA comes in and saves the day.

"Free speech fails again in Canada"


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

Edited by downforpot (09/15/06 10:03 AM)

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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: downforpot]
    #6064088 - 09/15/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I know all about that shit, and I am not pleased with it one bit.

However, there is a difference between not being able to say hateful things(which we should have the right to anyway) and not being able to say things in protest.

I would much rather have the right to say "boycott Israel" than "I hate gays". I shouldn't have to choose, but that's the world we live in I guess.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064241 - 09/15/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
I don't have a wife yet, I am only 20.




OK, I'll amend that. Have you started beating your wife yet? Obviously your answer will be no but it implies that you will when you get one.
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I don't want to see any nukes get dropped on this earth.




I have no doubt that you are telling the truth. I just didn't like what you said about downforpot's anticipated acceptance of Israeli atrocities which never occurred. They are equally absurd.
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I can really tell I have struck a nerve with you, I am sorry, but I think it's better you know about this treasonous law.




It isn't treasonous if it's law. I'm going to put out the notion that this law was enacted so that no company will be held hostage to another government's boycott demands. Any company can now say, "I'd love to support your boycott but it is against the law and couldn't even if I wanted to. Now, let's get back to those contracts." This is far more about protecting American business from extraneous demands than it is about Israel, in my opinion. At least, that is what the net result is. "I would but I can't" lets businesses off the hook.
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As for the UN thing, they called the proper people 10 fucking times, they should have told them to get out of there. Oh wait, anything that moved on a road in that country at the time, was blasted with missiles.



I don't care if they called them 10,000 times (and you supply zero links) if they are going to allow Hezbollah to use them as human shields then they need to just get the fuck out. Even your fellow 'nuck said so. They set up rocket launchers right next to the UN installation. This isn't about blasting anything that moves, that's another canard on your part. Really, man, you do have an argument aginst support for Israel, but you don't help yourself with deliberate misdirection and obfuscation.
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The fact is, I don't really hate Israel, I just don't give a flying fuck about the place. You Americans seem to cream your pants for the fucking place, for reasons I will NEVER understand.




If you don't care and you don't live here and your tax money doesn't pay for it why the fuck do you go on so about it? I have explained numerous times about why we support Israel, historically and immediately. Canada is a wonderful country that I have no interest in living in, am happy to have as a neighbor, but basically think is of minimal help in any way at all. Be the happy 'nuck. Just stay out of the adult end of the pool. It's really way over your head.
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You know, I would probably be as upset as you if I lived in a country where it was illegal to support a boycott of a foreign nation.

I can paint "Boycott Israel" on my car and not be arrested, unlike you.




I'm not upset about that at all, it is a protection for our companies. Welcome to globalisation, as I explained above. And I can paint that on my car too and not get arrested so now you are lieing again.


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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6064281 - 09/15/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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alpharedecho said:
I don't have a wife yet, I am only 20.




OK, I'll amend that. Have you started beating your wife yet? Obviously your answer will be no but it implies that you will when you get one.
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No, it implies that I have no wife to beat, therefore your question is invalid. FYI I have never struck a woman, and never will.

I don't want to see any nukes get dropped on this earth.




I have no doubt that you are telling the truth. I just didn't like what you said about downforpot's anticipated acceptance of Israeli atrocities which never occurred. They are equally absurd.
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I don't believe the IDF would do such a thing either, just a hypothetical situation, which he would most likely find a way of defending.

I can really tell I have struck a nerve with you, I am sorry, but I think it's better you know about this treasonous law.




It isn't treasonous if it's law. I'm going to put out the notion that this law was enacted so that no company will be held hostage to another government's boycott demands. Any company can now say, "I'd love to support your boycott but it is against the law and couldn't even if I wanted to. Now, let's get back to those contracts." This is far more about protecting American business from extraneous demands than it is about Israel, in my opinion. At least, that is what the net result is. "I would but I can't" lets businesses off the hook.
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Good point, but why would a business have to give in to another governments boycotts demands anyway? That is also only one aspect of the law. A private citizen, like yourself, would be breaking the law if he wrote anything in support of an Israeli boycott. That is insane.

As for the UN thing, they called the proper people 10 fucking times, they should have told them to get out of there. Oh wait, anything that moved on a road in that country at the time, was blasted with missiles.



I don't care if they called them 10,000 times (and you supply zero links) if they are going to allow Hezbollah to use them as human shields then they need to just get the fuck out. Even your fellow 'nuck said so. They set up rocket launchers right next to the UN installation. This isn't about blasting anything that moves, that's another canard on your part. Really, man, you do have an argument aginst support for Israel, but you don't help yourself with deliberate misdirection and obfuscation.
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I will find a link, I don't accept any justification for this. They are not even calling it an accident anymore? That is some fucked up shit. Of course our officials will kiss Israels ass, we wouldn't want to piss off our neighbors to the south.

The fact is, I don't really hate Israel, I just don't give a flying fuck about the place. You Americans seem to cream your pants for the fucking place, for reasons I will NEVER understand.




If you don't care and you don't live here and your tax money doesn't pay for it why the fuck do you go on so about it? I have explained numerous times about why we support Israel, historically and immediately. Canada is a wonderful country that I have no interest in living in, am happy to have as a neighbor, but basically think is of minimal help in any way at all. Be the happy 'nuck. Just stay out of the adult end of the pool. It's really way over your head.
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I think you are just too set in your ways to ever change your mind or opinion of the world.

You know, I would probably be as upset as you if I lived in a country where it was illegal to support a boycott of a foreign nation.

I can paint "Boycott Israel" on my car and not be arrested, unlike you.




I'm not upset about that at all, it is a protection for our companies. Welcome to globalisation, as I explained above. And I can paint that on my car too and not get arrested so now you are lieing again.




Please tell me how it protects companies, if you are not allowed to paind "boycot Israel" on your own car.

PS Sorry for the bad quoting, my replies are bold obviously, I just don't have time to go through and fix it.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

Edited by alpharedecho (09/15/06 11:10 AM)

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064311 - 09/15/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5348364.stm

Found this from today, nothing about the calls, but now Israel is saying it was just an error. The constant change of story suggests they are lying. Who dare question them though, if you did, you would be an anti-Semite.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Supporting an Israeli boycott is illegal in your country of Freedom. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6064436 - 09/15/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Canada is a true powerhouse, as the world cowers with its influence.


The United States is stupid for supporting a democracy were people can vote, and women are treated as humans.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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