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mipa
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: BlindLemon]
#6073814 - 09/18/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlindLemon said: I did 200 seed of morning glorys and tripped and got horrible stomach pains that ruined the trip. Then I did a simple 5 day extraction on 1000 seed and took the whole thing and.... woooow. It was one of the best experiences of my tripping life.
I bought 30grams of HBWR seeds that should be here any day! Gona do a huge extraction!
I did a naphtha/alcohol extraction. and I drank the tincture.
I heard that the naphtha is dangerous and you can't get the good grade like you could back 5 10 years ago... did you get your naphtha at the hardware store or did you get a lab gade pet. ether? I was going to do an extraction until I heard that the grade of naphtha you get in the hardware store isn't good to use because it has contaminants that kill the lsa. Could you give a little more detail as to what you used? what kind of alcohol? why 5 days? how did you prepare the seed? did you get any nausea with the tincture? I did hbws about 5 years ago and the 3 hours of horrible stomach cramps made it not worth the trip... I can just say 'seeds' to my hubby and he gags... even after 5 years has gone by! After that trip I felt like... geeze we could have died and we were so out of it we couldn't have even called 911! Its taken this long to even consider doing any kind of seed again... but the extraction seems interesting (pretty sick the lengths you will go to have a decent trip!). I wonder also how long is the tincture good for? Could you just do an alcohol extraction without the naphtha? and with a cold water extraction how long does the water keep? Can you store it or freeze it or would that ruin it?
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TheJakeyl88
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: mipa]
#6074151 - 09/18/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've eaten 13 seeds at once, got real sick to my stomach, threw up and had an incredible mushroom like body buzz for about 6 hours. Buzz was strong and I basically laid on my bed the whole time thinking about how good I'm feeling. The vomiting wasn't fun but it came on fast, I threw em up and that was the end of feeling bad. All in all, its really weird and feels cheap. I don't know if I'd do it again, but it was nice to try once.
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unseenat17
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
#6074336 - 09/18/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fucking lab grade petroleum ether is 50 bucks for a 500mL!!! That is expensive, but as long as you used HBWR seeds, and not morning glory, im sure you could fit 1000 - 2000 (rough guess) seeds in it. That is a fuckload of trips!
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: unseenat17]
#6074361 - 09/18/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DMT is the most powerful psychadellic known to man - not salvia.
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unseenat17
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Salvinorum A which is found in salvia is the most potent psychedelic in the world supposedly.
I did not once say salvia is the most powerful, i said the salvinorum A compound in the salvia is. In actual pure form...i heard it is the most powerful. But that is jus what i heard, hence why I said supposedly.
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kija
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: unseenat17]
#6074696 - 09/18/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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that or LSD?
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: kija]
#6074897 - 09/18/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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such different effects... hard to even compare... like apples to buffaloes...
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JohnP
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I have read other ways of taking in the lsa... LSA is soluble in water.
Someone try this... I would try it, but I don't have any seeds, unless someone wants to send me some.
1. Scrape hair and fuzz off seeds and wash with a tad bit of soap. 2. Flame the seeds to remove the rest of the hair and stuff. 3. Grind about 9 or 10 seeds into a FINE powder for a trip comparable to around 6 seeds. 4. Add 1 teaspoon of water to disolve the LSA, into a shotglass, and 1 teaspoon of fruit Juice to help the taste, and the mashed HBWR powder. 5. Stir it up for about 5 - 10 minutes to disolve the lsa in the water. 6. Now go brush your teeth really good and use some mouthwash (listerine), and wash your mouth out good with water after that. That way your mouth is super clean. Your mouth should absorb the LSA MUCH easier that way. 7. Put the liquid stuff in your mouth and hold there for 15-20 minutes swishing it around. 8. Spit out liquid and you should be tripping, and because you didn't actually take in the seeds, you should have almost no nasuea... because I guess the chemicals that cause the nausea don't disolve in water, and the flaming and cleaning gets rid of alot of those chemicals.
This should work. Anyone want to try it ?
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unseenat17
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: JohnP]
#6075288 - 09/18/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah...ill give it a try in probably a few days. I gotta find a good setting first. This doesnt sound too bad at all though.
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JohnP
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: unseenat17]
#6075327 - 09/18/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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PM me about it if it works. If it does work, im going to have to get ahold of some of those seeds.
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yageman
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: JohnP]
#6075407 - 09/18/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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HBWR work just fine when you eat them.
All this effort to avoid some nausea.
Aside from nausea, if you use ANY sublingual method you are not going to get the same intense and elongated experience as if you ate them. The experiences will be alike in no way besides the fact that its just lsa.
Honestly, If you cant handle what for most people is subtle nausea, you just shouldnt use HBWR.
People talk about this seed as if it was a horrible experience waiting to happen. If you are expecting a mushroom experience just dont even bother. Its more of a cognative trip than anything else.
Eat bread and water between swallows so you space out the seed within your gut. THIS HELPS ALOT......
10 seeds is a hell of a trip. If you expect it to be like lsd or mushrooms you are very wrong.
I just can see how many people dislike the experience because they have the wrong expectations, and they are really scared of getting a little sick.
I have eaten 17 potent HBWR seeds at the most and its a force to be reckoned with. I never experience anything but stomach cramps. I expect that when using anything above 7 seeds.
People seem to be so scared of a seed that has been used safely for thousands of years.
The first time I used HBWR I was amazed at the fact that I didnt get sick. Stomach cramping was the extent of the famed HBWR sickness.
SO much bullshit. Try it. But if you want a free ride filled with color/geometry flying through the air and expect no nausea, then just stick to what you are good at.
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: yageman]
#6075521 - 09/18/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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whats the best buy from iamshaman
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unseenat17
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: flo]
#6075654 - 09/18/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Apparantely the expensive ones. 13 dollars for 50 with 95% viability. We went over it earlier in the thread.
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: unseenat17]
#6075873 - 09/18/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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dmt is not the most powerful psychadellic lsd is (5-meo)dmt dose is 10 mg a dose of toad venom is 60 mgs
LSD on the other hand a dose is like 100/1000000 of a gram 1 mg of LSD (acid) is a sheet
salvia is fucking joke i have 20 grams of 10x just for me to smoke
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unseenat17
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: flo]
#6076444 - 09/18/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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again...I NEVER SAID SALVIA even in a 10x or 20x extract is the most potent psychedelic...I SAID SALVINORUM A in a pure form is! Obtain a pure form of of it (good luck), and compare it to a pure form of DMT. I see crazier trips from 20x than from a lot of DMT trips. So I dont believe that pure Salvinorum A is a joke compared to DMT.
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: unseenat17]
#6077993 - 09/19/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was talking to darksidemoon
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Re: HBWR Questions...... [Re: flo]
#6083689 - 09/20/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hawaiian Baby Woodrose -Argyeria Nervosa...does anyone know what there worth? i have link selling them 5 for a 1$
Edited by flo (09/20/06 07:33 PM)
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