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Offlinepsychedelicatessen
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RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!?
    #6048107 - 09/10/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

God this website is stressing me out..the faqs are so sloppy and I just cant decide which is better, wbs or rye.

I have a PC ..plan to case the sub into the norm coir verm orw/e

SO whats it gonna be WBS or RYE?? its giving me a headache so ill have yall decide

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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #6048168 - 09/10/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dude,

Relax, either one is fine. Just check on your sources. If you can score 50lbs of wbs from wal-mart for 10 bucks but you can get a bushel or organic rye from a feed store for 3 bucks then perhaps your choice will be obvious. Personally I think the results are about the same. Although i'm partial to WBS, I've actually got some rye soaking at the moment to knock up w/ some spores just bcuz it happenend to be available.

Good luck and happy shrooming!

Tripple M


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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: psychedelicatessen]
    #6048292 - 09/10/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Rye is better if you are fruiting it directly as a substrate as it has more nutrients to it. WBS is better for spawn because it has more grains per volume thusly more inoculation points. Agar suggests mixing the two together. So depends on what you are using it for and like TrippleM said what is available to you.

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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: nugjug]
    #6048304 - 09/10/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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nugjug said:
Rye is better if you are fruiting it directly as a substrate as it has more nutrients to it. WBS is better for spawn because it has more grains per volume thusly more inoculation points. Agar suggests mixing the two together. So depends on what you are using it for and like TrippleM said what is available to you.




please show me two things:

1. where you found RYE has more usable nutes than WBS.
2. where agar said to mix the two.


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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: monstermitch]
    #6048314 - 09/10/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

to answer your question:

for spawning, use WBS

for fruiting directly (casing the grain), use RYE.

RYE holds more moisture, therfore is better suited for fruiting.


WBS is more forgiving because it is a mix of different grains.

both use the same process.



personally, I would use whatever is cheaper.
they both have good and bad points.
I find WBS to be much cheaper and more readily available, so I use it.

I would use RYE for fruiting directly or for sclerotia.


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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: monstermitch]
    #6048392 - 09/10/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was considering cracked corn, is wbs better for that?


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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: Jorsher]
    #6049400 - 09/11/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

cracked corn is garbage.

use WBS.


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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: monstermitch]
    #6049765 - 09/11/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Agar talks of mixing the two here, here, here, here, etc.

Then here hyphae makes mention of rye kicking WBS's ass due to what he believes to be higher nutrient content.

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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: nugjug]
    #6050153 - 09/11/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

thank you.


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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: monstermitch]
    #6051337 - 09/11/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry, double post.

Edited by nugjug (09/11/06 07:56 PM)

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Re: RYE or WBS?!?!?!?!? [Re: monstermitch]
    #6051339 - 09/11/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Your welcome. Knowledge is power.

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