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Mr. G
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Registered: 04/23/99
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Loc: Treasure Coast
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Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips
#604743 - 04/10/02 08:54 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is a copy of a letter i sent to person questioning the identity of my Tropicalis and where it came from. What a laugh, he told me to look at hawkseye, they got it from ME in the first place! Here it is, not trying to offend anyone but this is all true and i can prove it with saved popsts and original letters! Hang on:Do you now understand why I am so frustrated? I discovered the very Tropicalis that you send me to for a reference. Hawk believed me, but workman starts a war because of his greed, the one and only reason, and tells everyone the Tropicalis is just a Pan Cyan and we (Mr.G & fmfarms.com) are liars and thieves again?! How dare him, wonder if he would meet me at the ball field for a few rounds, that is what happens to filthy liars where i come from, they get their ass kicked! Hawk and Sporeworks wait, then when they think I am not around, they change names of pictures already posted on the shroomery to "Herben's B+", lie through their teeth and do all this? Well the cat is back, and the mice better WATCH OUT! I can prove EVERYTHING I SAID beyond a reasonable doubt. I have most of the emails and posts saved during the war, maybe i should post them so people know the truth! they are just like big tobacco! I still have the original e-mails of Ryche begging me to go into a partnership with him, when I told him I was sick of all the flaming and lies from Workman and his "puppets". I told him he could have the spores himself and learn how to vend on his own. I taught him and gave the spores free, what did he give me" He gave me a knife in the back, thanks hawk! All I asked for was to be credited with isolating and in some cases discovering the species, or the Florida Strain of the species. I gave masters to h Herben, Hawk, Sporechicks. The Sporechicks honored their agreement, check their page! He (Hawk) later joins forces with Workman and becomes a greedy pig himself due to "workman's following", in order to just survive. he originally had visions of helping people and giving out all spores at 10.00 a syringe, a fair deal, he wanted everyone to have it because he was the 'milk of human kindness". What a laugh! He does send the Tropicalis to Puerto Rico and has a a third party fruit and make a positive ID, because he can't get it to fruit. That study on Tropicalis is not his work, is he claiming it? I still have the very same sheet of spore prints, same year and the specific batch of spores, that I gave Hawk his start of Tropicalis, the same with the TC and the B+. Damn it I am good, and I deserve somebody to take me seriously and deserve the credit of the discovery. I was accused of being dishonest by selling the B+, well for the record, I NEVER said it was a Azurescen/Cubensis hybrid! Herben said that, after Workman turned the heat up on him trying to ruin him so he could have more business with his new baby Sporeworks, talk about filthy politics! "heard about sporeworks", yes i am afraid i have and they should be ashamed Wow, I would be ashamed to show my face if I were Workman or Hawk. They must have not have personal pride or integrity and people are going to find out the truth someday! The B+, I think it is either a subspecies of Azurescen, or it is it's own unique, due to mutation, species. I sure would like to know who was JLF's vendor at the time of my purchase so we could find out what it was to began with. There ia a very good vendor at:http://www.mushmush.nl/left2.htm He has the real strains directly from me and is a good man and honest and reliable. If you don't like the farm, At least get it from a decent vendor with the real thing! When you can say that about someone who is actually your competitor, he is DAMN good! Think if it were you, in all honesty how would you feel? I will tell you something else about the Tropicalis and what I call "Pan Cyan". The Pan Cyan is much, much bigger, like I mentioned. It doesn't stain blue nearly as much as the Tropicalis, and the Tropicalis NEVER expands it's cap into a full plane in the wild and is much, much, smaller and strains a violent indigo blue instantly, like a real P. Azurescen. The Pan Cyan and the Tropicalis strains I have are much stronger and look very different from the Coplandia on your webpage, is it a new shroom as well? If the Pan Cyan and the Coplandia are the same, it has to be. It looks much more like a giant version of the Tropicalis. Tropicalis fruits best in the winter. It fruits best from Nov-March. Why? I think because the temperature difference in Hawaii where the strain is supposed to have originated, no matter where it is now, right? WEll, my theory is that the temperature difference in the mountains of Hawaii, where they came from, is greater then the temperature differences here in the summer. The difference is the amount of degrees it drops at night.. I bet in the mountains of hawaii it gets cold at night, right? The Tropicalis thinks it is at home or in better conditions and fruits freely in the winter. I find all of the shrooms year round. Some grow better in the winter, some in the summer. They are much, much better then the mushrooms harvested during the actual season. They are only good for spores period. They have no "kick" they are weak from all the water content, and the extra UV from the sunlight. The UV light will suck the active ingredients out just like Stamets says, talking about some Cubes he found in Mexico that were old and sun dried. The UV washed the potency away. Tell me what you want an original of, and I will take you to the field it grows in and produce free of charge. I can do that to prove i found it and where it grows. Ask Hawk to take you to a field where it grows, ask him where he got it. I know he can't produce or even get you within 100 miles of the one and only field I find it in all the time. I want to prove myself. The Pan Cyan grows more in the summer and never in the above mentioned winter months. It doesn't even grow in the same field as the Tropicalis field I know of. I can take you there anytime you wish, and help you collect and gather your own from the wild, you can bring a GOOD camera. There are strains of things I am not sure of, it is a Gold mine of Genetic wonders around here.
-------------------- "Mr.G with a rose, in and out of the garden goes, country gharden in the wind and the rain whereever he goes the people all complain!" "The Grateful Dead" Thanks boys, I miss you Jerry! Did it hurt that much?
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JackMehoff
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Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 193
Loc: up your ass
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
#604786 - 04/10/02 09:50 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Here is a copy of a letter i sent to person questioning the identity of my Tropicalis and where it came from. What a laugh, he told me to look at hawkseye, they got it from ME in the first place! Here it is, not trying to offend anyone but this is all true and i can prove it with saved popsts and original letters! Hang on:Do you now understand why I am so frustrated? I discovered the very Tropicalis that you send me to for a reference. Hawk believed me, but workman starts a war because of his greed, the one and only reason, and tells everyone the Tropicalis is just a Pan Cyan and we (Mr.G & fmfarms.com) are liars and thieves again?! How dare him, wonder if he would meet me at the ball field for a few rounds, that is what happens to filthy liars where i come from, they get their ass kicked! Hawk and Sporeworks wait, then when they think I am not around, they change names of pictures already posted on the shroomery to "Herben's B+", lie through their teeth and do all this? Well the cat is back, and the mice better WATCH OUT! I can prove EVERYTHING I SAID beyond a reasonable doubt. I have most of the emails and posts saved during the war, maybe i should post them so people know the truth! they are just like big tobacco! I still have the original e-mails of Ryche begging me to go into a partnership with him, when I told him I was sick of all the flaming and lies from Workman and his "puppets". I told him he could have the spores himself and learn how to vend on his own. I taught him and gave the spores free, what did he give me" He gave me a knife in the back, thanks hawk! All I asked for was to be credited with isolating and in some cases discovering the species, or the Florida Strain of the species. I gave masters to h Herben, Hawk, Sporechicks. The Sporechicks honored their agreement, check their page! He (Hawk) later joins forces with Workman and becomes a greedy pig himself due to "workman's following", in order to just survive. he originally had visions of helping people and giving out all spores at 10.00 a syringe, a fair deal, he wanted everyone to have it because he was the 'milk of human kindness". What a laugh! He does send the Tropicalis to Puerto Rico and has a a third party fruit and make a positive ID, because he can't get it to fruit. That study on Tropicalis is not his work, is he claiming it? I still have the very same sheet of spore prints, same year and the specific batch of spores, that I gave Hawk his start of Tropicalis, the same with the TC and the B+. Damn it I am good, and I deserve somebody to take me seriously and deserve the credit of the discovery. I was accused of being dishonest by selling the B+, well for the record, I NEVER said it was a Azurescen/Cubensis hybrid! Herben said that, after Workman turned the heat up on him trying to ruin him so he could have more business with his new baby Sporeworks, talk about filthy politics! "heard about sporeworks", yes i am afraid i have and they should be ashamed Wow, I would be ashamed to show my face if I were Workman or Hawk. They must have not have personal pride or integrity and people are going to find out the truth someday! The B+, I think it is either a subspecies of Azurescen, or it is it's own unique, due to mutation, species. I sure would like to know who was JLF's vendor at the time of my purchase so we could find out what it was to began with. There ia a very good vendor at:http://www.mushmush.nl/left2.htm He has the real strains directly from me and is a good man and honest and reliable. If you don't like the farm, At least get it from a decent vendor with the real thing! When you can say that about someone who is actually your competitor, he is DAMN good! Think if it were you, in all honesty how would you feel? I will tell you something else about the Tropicalis and what I call "Pan Cyan". The Pan Cyan is much, much bigger, like I mentioned. It doesn't stain blue nearly as much as the Tropicalis, and the Tropicalis NEVER expands it's cap into a full plane in the wild and is much, much, smaller and strains a violent indigo blue instantly, like a real P. Azurescen. The Pan Cyan and the Tropicalis strains I have are much stronger and look very different from the Coplandia on your webpage, is it a new shroom as well? If the Pan Cyan and the Coplandia are the same, it has to be. It looks much more like a giant version of the Tropicalis. Tropicalis fruits best in the winter. It fruits best from Nov-March. Why? I think because the temperature difference in Hawaii where the strain is supposed to have originated, no matter where it is now, right? WEll, my theory is that the temperature difference in the mountains of Hawaii, where they came from, is greater then the temperature differences here in the summer. The difference is the amount of degrees it drops at night.. I bet in the mountains of hawaii it gets cold at night, right? The Tropicalis thinks it is at home or in better conditions and fruits freely in the winter. I find all of the shrooms year round. Some grow better in the winter, some in the summer. They are much, much better then the mushrooms harvested during the actual season. They are only good for spores period. They have no "kick" they are weak from all the water content, and the extra UV from the sunlight. The UV light will suck the active ingredients out just like Stamets says, talking about some Cubes he found in Mexico that were old and sun dried. The UV washed the potency away. Tell me what you want an original of, and I will take you to the field it grows in and produce free of charge. I can do that to prove i found it and where it grows. Ask Hawk to take you to a field where it grows, ask him where he got it. I know he can't produce or even get you within 100 miles of the one and only field I find it in all the time. I want to prove myself. The Pan Cyan grows more in the summer and never in the above mentioned winter months. It doesn't even grow in the same field as the Tropicalis field I know of. I can take you there anytime you wish, and help you collect and gather your own from the wild, you can bring a GOOD camera. There are strains of things I am not sure of, it is a Gold mine of Genetic wonders around here.
Ah Ha Spore Wars 2002? - The truth of Mr. G The truth is not welcome here. Expect this post to be deleted or locked. Never under estimate the gullability of the idiot element.
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SouthernGent
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Registered: 01/12/02
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
#605124 - 04/11/02 07:50 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow mr G i m sorry to hear that Pan Trops are weak..LOL.. my friend just started some because we were told they was stronger.
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Workman
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Registered: 03/01/01
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
#605328 - 04/11/02 11:20 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I find it disturbing that you are dealing with mushmush. I like Una and I feel its my responsibility to warn him away from your wild theories, incoherent rantings and questionable mushroom identification skills before it damages his business or reputation. I find Mjshroomer's aka John Allen's post very telling. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Vendor&Number=605259&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=
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Peyotl
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Registered: 12/05/01
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: SouthernGent]
#605335 - 04/11/02 11:28 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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the spore sluts arent the bes way to get your claim of creditablity accepted. if you wouldnt mind PMing me with the rest of the info id like to look it over just to see wtf is going on.
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Anonymous
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: SouthernGent]
#605530 - 04/11/02 03:14 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. G is not claiming they are weak. He is stating that WINTER SHROOMS are more POTENT. Since his fields produce more tropicalis in the winter months, they are stronger then the cyanescens he gets in the rest of the year. The cubensis are also stronger in the winter months. He is stating that Winter months in Florida, southeast Florida, are better for picking!!!
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LSD_4me
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: ]
#605801 - 04/11/02 09:16 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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winter shrooms are much more potent, my god i got a mindfuck from some wild cubies i found a few years back, 1 large 4 inch cap was the equivalent intesity wise of a 5 150 mic each hit acid trip...
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GGreatOne234
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Registered: 12/23/99
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
#606632 - 04/12/02 05:05 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Uh huh. Well i read through your letter, and whats your point? -Any at all? Who was the mycologist that performed the taxon of your suspected florida Copelandia tropicalis? -Any at all?
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Pavlovs Dog
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Registered: 12/09/00
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
#607620 - 04/13/02 10:36 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Call cleo
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