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InvisibleMr. G
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Registered: 04/24/99
Posts: 46
Loc: Treasure Coast
Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips
    #604743 - 04/10/02 10:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Here is a copy of a letter i sent to person questioning the identity of my Tropicalis and where it came from. What a laugh, he told me to look at hawkseye, they got it from ME in the first place! Here it is, not trying to offend anyone but this is all true and i can prove it with saved popsts and original letters!

Hang on:Do you now understand why I am so frustrated? I discovered the very
Tropicalis that you send me to for a reference. Hawk believed me, but
workman starts a war because of his greed, the one and only reason, and
tells everyone the Tropicalis is just a Pan Cyan and we (Mr.G &
fmfarms.com) are liars and thieves again?! How dare him, wonder if he
would meet me at the ball field for a few rounds, that is what happens
to filthy liars where i come from, they get their ass kicked! Hawk and
Sporeworks wait, then when they think I am not around, they change names
of pictures already posted on the shroomery to "Herben's B+", lie
through their teeth and do all this? Well the cat is back, and the mice
better WATCH OUT! I can prove EVERYTHING I SAID beyond a reasonable
doubt. I have most of the emails and posts saved during the war, maybe i
should post them so people know the truth! they are just like big
tobacco! I still have the original e-mails of Ryche begging me to go
into a partnership with him, when I told him I was sick of all the
flaming and lies from Workman and his "puppets". I told him he could
have the spores himself and learn how to vend on his own. I taught him
and gave the spores free, what did he give me" He gave me a knife in the
back, thanks hawk! All I asked for was to be credited with isolating
and in some cases discovering the species, or the Florida Strain of the
species. I gave masters to h
Herben, Hawk, Sporechicks. The Sporechicks honored their agreement,
check their page! He (Hawk) later joins forces with Workman and becomes
a greedy pig himself due to "workman's following", in order to just
survive. he originally had visions of helping people and giving out all
spores at 10.00 a syringe, a fair deal, he wanted everyone to have it
because he was the 'milk of human kindness". What a laugh! He does send
the Tropicalis to Puerto Rico and has a a third party fruit and make a
positive ID, because he can't get it to fruit. That study on Tropicalis
is not his work, is he claiming it? I still have the very same sheet of
spore prints, same year and the specific batch of spores, that I gave
Hawk his start of Tropicalis, the same with the TC and the B+. Damn it I
am good, and I deserve somebody to take me seriously and deserve the
credit of the discovery. I was accused of being dishonest by selling the
B+, well for the record, I NEVER said it was a Azurescen/Cubensis
hybrid! Herben said that, after Workman turned the heat up on him trying
to ruin him so he could have more business with his new baby Sporeworks,
talk about filthy politics! "heard about sporeworks", yes i am afraid i
have and they should be ashamed Wow, I would be ashamed to show my face
if I were Workman or Hawk. They must have not have personal pride or
integrity and people are going to find out the truth someday! The B+, I
think it is either a subspecies of Azurescen, or it is it's own unique,
due to mutation, species. I sure would like to know who was JLF's vendor
at the time of my purchase so we could find out what it was to began
with.

There ia a very good vendor at:http://www.mushmush.nl/left2.htm
He has the real strains directly from me and is a good man and honest
and reliable. If you don't like the farm, At least get it from a decent
vendor with the real thing! When you can say that about someone who is
actually your competitor, he is DAMN good!

Think if it were you, in all honesty how would you feel? I will tell you
something else about the Tropicalis and what I call "Pan Cyan". The Pan
Cyan is much, much bigger, like I mentioned. It doesn't stain blue
nearly as much as the Tropicalis, and the Tropicalis NEVER expands it's
cap into a full plane in the wild and is much, much, smaller and strains
a violent indigo blue instantly, like a real P. Azurescen. The Pan Cyan
and the Tropicalis strains I have are much stronger and look very
different from the Coplandia on your webpage, is it a new shroom as
well? If the Pan Cyan and the Coplandia are the same, it has to be. It
looks much more like a giant version of the Tropicalis. Tropicalis
fruits best in the winter. It fruits best from Nov-March. Why? I think
because the temperature difference in Hawaii where the strain is
supposed to have originated, no matter where it is now, right? WEll, my
theory is that the temperature difference in the mountains of Hawaii,
where they came from, is greater then the temperature differences here
in the summer. The difference is the amount of degrees it drops at
night.. I bet in the mountains of hawaii it gets cold at night, right?
The Tropicalis thinks it is at home or in better conditions and fruits
freely in the winter. I find all of the shrooms year round. Some grow
better in the winter, some in the summer. They are much, much better
then the mushrooms harvested during the actual season. They are only
good for spores period. They have no "kick" they are weak from all the
water content, and the extra UV from the sunlight. The UV light will
suck the active ingredients out just like Stamets says, talking about
some Cubes he found in Mexico that were old and sun dried. The UV washed
the potency away.

Tell me what you want an original of, and I will take you to the field
it grows in and produce free of charge. I can do that to prove i found
it and where it grows. Ask Hawk to take you to a field where it grows,
ask him where he got it. I know he can't produce or even get you within
100 miles of the one and only field I find it in all the time. I want to
prove myself. The Pan Cyan grows more in the summer and never in the
above mentioned winter months. It doesn't even grow in the same field as
the Tropicalis field I know of. I can take you there anytime you wish,
and help you collect and gather your own from the wild, you can bring a
GOOD camera. There are strains of things I am not sure of, it is a Gold
mine of Genetic wonders around here.


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InvisibleJackMehoff
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Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 193
Loc: up your ass
Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
    #604786 - 04/10/02 11:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

Here is a copy of a letter i sent to person questioning the identity of my Tropicalis and where it came from. What a laugh, he told me to look at hawkseye, they got it from ME in the first place! Here it is, not trying to offend anyone but this is all true and i can prove it with saved popsts and original letters!

Hang on:Do you now understand why I am so frustrated? I discovered the very
Tropicalis that you send me to for a reference. Hawk believed me, but
workman starts a war because of his greed, the one and only reason, and
tells everyone the Tropicalis is just a Pan Cyan and we (Mr.G &
fmfarms.com) are liars and thieves again?! How dare him, wonder if he
would meet me at the ball field for a few rounds, that is what happens
to filthy liars where i come from, they get their ass kicked! Hawk and
Sporeworks wait, then when they think I am not around, they change names
of pictures already posted on the shroomery to "Herben's B+", lie
through their teeth and do all this? Well the cat is back, and the mice
better WATCH OUT! I can prove EVERYTHING I SAID beyond a reasonable
doubt. I have most of the emails and posts saved during the war, maybe i
should post them so people know the truth! they are just like big
tobacco! I still have the original e-mails of Ryche begging me to go
into a partnership with him, when I told him I was sick of all the
flaming and lies from Workman and his "puppets". I told him he could
have the spores himself and learn how to vend on his own. I taught him
and gave the spores free, what did he give me" He gave me a knife in the
back, thanks hawk! All I asked for was to be credited with isolating
and in some cases discovering the species, or the Florida Strain of the
species. I gave masters to h
Herben, Hawk, Sporechicks. The Sporechicks honored their agreement,
check their page! He (Hawk) later joins forces with Workman and becomes
a greedy pig himself due to "workman's following", in order to just
survive. he originally had visions of helping people and giving out all
spores at 10.00 a syringe, a fair deal, he wanted everyone to have it
because he was the 'milk of human kindness". What a laugh! He does send
the Tropicalis to Puerto Rico and has a a third party fruit and make a
positive ID, because he can't get it to fruit. That study on Tropicalis
is not his work, is he claiming it? I still have the very same sheet of
spore prints, same year and the specific batch of spores, that I gave
Hawk his start of Tropicalis, the same with the TC and the B+. Damn it I
am good, and I deserve somebody to take me seriously and deserve the
credit of the discovery. I was accused of being dishonest by selling the
B+, well for the record, I NEVER said it was a Azurescen/Cubensis
hybrid! Herben said that, after Workman turned the heat up on him trying
to ruin him so he could have more business with his new baby Sporeworks,
talk about filthy politics! "heard about sporeworks", yes i am afraid i
have and they should be ashamed Wow, I would be ashamed to show my face
if I were Workman or Hawk. They must have not have personal pride or
integrity and people are going to find out the truth someday!
The B+, I
think it is either a subspecies of Azurescen, or it is it's own unique,
due to mutation, species. I sure would like to know who was JLF's vendor
at the time of my purchase so we could find out what it was to began
with.

There ia a very good vendor at:http://www.mushmush.nl/left2.htm
He has the real strains directly from me and is a good man and honest
and reliable. If you don't like the farm, At least get it from a decent
vendor with the real thing! When you can say that about someone who is
actually your competitor, he is DAMN good!

Think if it were you, in all honesty how would you feel? I will tell you
something else about the Tropicalis and what I call "Pan Cyan". The Pan
Cyan is much, much bigger, like I mentioned. It doesn't stain blue
nearly as much as the Tropicalis, and the Tropicalis NEVER expands it's
cap into a full plane in the wild and is much, much, smaller and strains
a violent indigo blue instantly, like a real P. Azurescen. The Pan Cyan
and the Tropicalis strains I have are much stronger and look very
different from the Coplandia on your webpage, is it a new shroom as
well? If the Pan Cyan and the Coplandia are the same, it has to be. It
looks much more like a giant version of the Tropicalis. Tropicalis
fruits best in the winter. It fruits best from Nov-March. Why? I think
because the temperature difference in Hawaii where the strain is
supposed to have originated, no matter where it is now, right? WEll, my
theory is that the temperature difference in the mountains of Hawaii,
where they came from, is greater then the temperature differences here
in the summer. The difference is the amount of degrees it drops at
night.. I bet in the mountains of hawaii it gets cold at night, right?
The Tropicalis thinks it is at home or in better conditions and fruits
freely in the winter. I find all of the shrooms year round. Some grow
better in the winter, some in the summer. They are much, much better
then the mushrooms harvested during the actual season. They are only
good for spores period. They have no "kick" they are weak from all the
water content, and the extra UV from the sunlight. The UV light will
suck the active ingredients out just like Stamets says, talking about
some Cubes he found in Mexico that were old and sun dried. The UV washed
the potency away.

Tell me what you want an original of, and I will take you to the field
it grows in and produce free of charge. I can do that to prove i found
it and where it grows. Ask Hawk to take you to a field where it grows,
ask him where he got it. I know he can't produce or even get you within
100 miles of the one and only field I find it in all the time. I want to
prove myself. The Pan Cyan grows more in the summer and never in the
above mentioned winter months. It doesn't even grow in the same field as
the Tropicalis field I know of. I can take you there anytime you wish,
and help you collect and gather your own from the wild, you can bring a
GOOD camera. There are strains of things I am not sure of, it is a Gold
mine of Genetic wonders around here.




Ah Ha

Spore Wars 2002? - The truth of Mr. G

The truth is not welcome here.  Expect this post to be deleted or locked.



Never under estimate the gullability of the idiot element. 


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InvisibleSouthernGent
veteran
Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1,331
Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
    #605124 - 04/11/02 09:50 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

wow mr G i m sorry to hear that Pan Trops are weak..LOL.. my friend just started some because we were told they was stronger.


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Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 3,492
Loc: Washington, USA
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
    #605328 - 04/11/02 01:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I find it disturbing that you are dealing with mushmush. I like Una and I feel its my responsibility to warn him away from your wild theories, incoherent rantings and questionable mushroom identification skills before it damages his business or reputation.

I find Mjshroomer's aka John Allen's post very telling.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Vendor&Number=605259&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=


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OfflinePeyotl
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Registered: 12/05/01
Posts: 238
Loc: Everywhere But No Where
Last seen: 14 years, 7 months
Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: SouthernGent]
    #605335 - 04/11/02 01:28 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

the spore sluts arent the bes way to get your claim of creditablity accepted. if you wouldnt mind PMing me with the rest of the info id like to look it over just to see wtf is going on.


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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: SouthernGent]
    #605530 - 04/11/02 05:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Mr. G is not claiming they are weak. He is stating that WINTER SHROOMS are more POTENT. Since his fields produce more tropicalis in the winter months, they are stronger then the cyanescens he gets in the rest of the year. The cubensis are also stronger in the winter months.

He is stating that Winter months in Florida, southeast Florida, are better for picking!!!


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Registered: 02/09/02
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Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: ]
    #605801 - 04/11/02 11:16 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

winter shrooms are much more potent, my god i got a mindfuck from some wild cubies i found a few years back, 1 large 4 inch cap was the equivalent intesity wise of a 5 150 mic each hit acid trip...


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InvisibleGGreatOne234
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Registered: 12/24/99
Posts: 8,946
Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
    #606632 - 04/12/02 07:05 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Uh huh.

Well i read through your letter, and whats your point?
-Any at all?

Who was the mycologist that performed the taxon of your suspected florida Copelandia tropicalis?
-Any at all?


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OfflinePavlovs Dog
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Registered: 12/10/00
Posts: 57
Loc: Tacoma Washington
Last seen: 14 years, 7 months
Re: Letter about origins/Florida P.Tropicalis and tips [Re: Mr. G]
    #607620 - 04/14/02 12:36 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Call cleo


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