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Name this spider (large pics)
    #6040884 - 09/08/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well some of you might remember the other thread i posted about that big spider i found in my bed and whatnot. well this one tops it all, it was just chillin in my livin room. i'v never seen one like this before, what about u guys?

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: LethalX5]
    #6040909 - 09/08/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No idea.  Google up some spider info sites to ID.
However, generaly, bright colors like yellow in nature usualy = poisonous.


Try it out, give it a squeeze and see if you become spiderman.  :lol:


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: RuNE]
    #6040925 - 09/08/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

All spiders are poisonous, the question is: to who?

If it has this patterning, be very concerned!




Just off the top of the head I'm guessing its a violin spider. Not at all sure though.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6040928 - 09/08/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's a Golden Orb Weaver...


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6040931 - 09/08/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My friend had a bunch of those fuckers outside his house (on a farm). They told me that the big ones are female, and for every female there are like 10+ males about... Don't quote me on that, as it may very well be farmhouse lore.

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6040933 - 09/08/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I FOUND IT! It looks like the Golden Garden Spider





Argiope aurantia
Golden Garden Spider, Yellow Argiope

ARANEIDAE

Description

Argiope aurantia, is one of three local species of argiope orb weavers. The female golden garden spider measures 0.67 inches (17 mm). Its abdomen has two anterior bumps; the top is black with large yellow spots or patches; the carapace is silvery to yellowish-white with brown markings; the sternum is black with white stripe down the middle. The smaller male measures 0.24 inches (6 mm). The top of the abdomen is black with a pair of light stripes running lengthwise; the carapace is brownish with white setae.

Range and Habitat

This species ranges from Washington to Nova Scotia, south to Guatemala and Baja California. It can be found in coastal areas of San Diego County.

Argiope aurantia egg sac, copyright by Jim Berrian
Egg sac
Natural History

Golden garden spiders have an annual life cycle with males maturing in July and August and females maturing from August to October. In late fall, the mature female lays her eggs, and the hatchlings overwinter in an egg sac. In spring, they emerge and disperse.

These spiders build their webs in herbaceous plants in open habitats such as fields and gardens. A web may reach a diameter of two feet, with a zigzag pattern of silk in the center. This pattern strengthens the structure of the web, camouflages the spider, and may help attract insects.

The female golden garden spider sits in the center of the web during the day, holding her abdomen upward and aiming her eyes and mouth-parts downward. She places her legs together in pairs, which gives the appearance of four instead of eight legs. When disturbed, she vibrates the silk orb to appear larger and more threatening. If that doesn't frighten away the intruder, she drops to the ground and hides.

The male spider usually builds a smaller web at the outer edge of the female's. He waits there until the female is receptive to mating.

In late fall, the mature female lays her eggs and the hatchlings overwinter in an egg sac. In spring, they emerge and disperse.

Related and Similar Species

Argiope argentata has an abdomen with lateral bulges and does not have large yellow spots.

References
Dondale, C.D., J.H. Redner, P. Paquin, and H.W. Levi. 2003. The Insects and Arachnids of Canada, Part 23. The orb-weaving spiders of Canada and Alaska (Araneae: Uloboridae, Tetragnathidae, Araneidae, Theridiosomatidae). NRC Research Press, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. 371pp.

Levi, H.W. 1968. The spiders genera Gea and Argiope in America (Araneae: Araneidae). Bull. Mus. Comp. Zool. 136(9):319-352


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6040951 - 09/08/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

too bad i got it three Min's earlier,ya copy cat :wink:


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6040960 - 09/08/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

A simple acid-base extraction will get rid of the spider, but why not let it be? It ate ten times its weight in bugs after all.

Interesting factoid: nobody reading this is further than 5 foot from a spider :ooo:


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6040989 - 09/08/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i know i'm not,hah...

my house is filled with them...


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6041115 - 09/08/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I can't think of a better name for a spider then...
Elizabeth Alexandria Weaver.
She sure is pretty.


"Interesting factoid: nobody reading this is further than 5 foot from a spider"

I have a brown recluse crawling up the wall behind my monitor as I type this.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: LethalX5]
    #6041168 - 09/08/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Cool spider, ive never seen anything with markings like that in this country..

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Mike_yy]
    #6041197 - 09/08/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the help!!!


even though it is kinda cool looking i cant have these in my house. i'm scared of spiders and i would hate to see more of these inside along with the huge brown things running around.

R.I.P big nasty spider


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: cricket]
    #6041243 - 09/08/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I have a brown recluse crawling up the wall behind my monitor as I type this.




Brown Recluse spiders are poisonous!!
They can cause gangrenous slow-healing wounds.
This was done by a Brown Recluse:





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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: cricket]
    #6041276 - 09/08/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

cricket, if you have a brown recluse that means you definately live in the southern states east of the rockies.

OTHERWISE you definately have something else.

In the PNW, the big nasty biter is the Hobo spider.

black widows keep to themselves, i have dozens as pets.

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6041284 - 09/08/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

also were significantly closer to an arachnid than 5 ft. in fact, we are all currently COVERED with arachnids of some type, some of which are burrowed under our skin.

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #6041323 - 09/08/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Mitchnast said:
we are all currently COVERED with arachnids of some type, some of which are burrowed under our skin.




/me quivers


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: LethalX5]
    #6042326 - 09/08/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i found a black widow in the trunk of my car the other day...scared the shit out of me.

the kicker is that she was pregnant, as i found about 20 babies on my back window.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6042350 - 09/08/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
I FOUND IT! It looks like the Golden Garden Spider






also know as a writing spider, they're common as hell here and theres old wives tales about them.

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: cricket]
    #6042357 - 09/08/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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cricket said:
I have a brown recluse crawling up the wall behind my monitor as I type this.





several different spiders are also mistaken for a brown recluse, wolf spiders are the most commonly mistaken and really dont look the same


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6042375 - 09/08/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've killed 4 now in my apt...well, technically 3, one had already been eaten by other spiders (go spiders that don't bite/harm me!). One of em is sitting on my sticky trap; their long thin legs really send shivers up my spine.

edit: brown recluses that is.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: LethalX5]
    #6042515 - 09/08/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

A banana spider appeared over my front door one day and I was about to kill it, but before I did I noticed something amazing...  A wasp flew into its web and she killed the fucker!  That spider proved its worthiness of staying in front of my door.  Sometimes I'd watch it outside my window and see more n more wasps getting caught in her web.  Then there was a very windy day and my spider wasn't there anymore. :frown:  I named her Charlotte.

here's a pic



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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Asante]
    #6042554 - 09/08/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

As soon as I saw the pics in your first post I said to myself "Hey, those are them damn things I've got out in my yard!".  Theres tons of them here!  Obviously an egg sack hatched in the area this spring.

Then when you discovered its identity and posted the description I knew I was right... those are the exact spider I have here.

Quote:

Range and Habitat

This species ranges from Washington to Nova Scotia, south to Guatemala and Baja California. It can be found in coastal areas of San Diego County.




I live on the beach in San Diego! :grin:

edit: sorry, just noticed Lethal was the original poster and Wiccan found the identity

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Cracka_X]
    #6042585 - 09/08/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

charlotte is not a Nephila clavipes, the harmless banana spider.

another spider known by the name "banana spider" and also "wandering spider" as it comes from tropical areas on shipments of bananas is the Phoneutria nigriventer


known to actually attack people from accross rooms.

the bite may well prove fatal as they have potent venom and a LOT of it.

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #6044218 - 09/09/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I know what a reclues looks like. I can ID the spiders and the molted skins.
I've spent most of my life living with them in and around my homes.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5737246

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5740734


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: cricket]
    #6044254 - 09/09/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

there are some desert recluses in eastern California

this is a pretty decent range map, tho the reclusa species does occur further east.
it may not be as far north as this map sugegsts tho.

Im in hobo spider territory myself
unlike the the recluse. the bites are relitively painless and go unnoticed untill they begin to fester and rot.
bites are often venomless, or have little venom, my wife got bit a few days ago while sleeping. diddnt do much damage.
the bites effect fatty tissues the worst

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #6044340 - 09/09/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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cricket, if you have a brown recluse that means you definately live in the southern states east of the rockies.

OTHERWISE you definately have something else.

In the PNW, the big nasty biter is the Hobo spider.

black widows keep to themselves, i have dozens as pets.



I have heard of poeple finding Brown Recluses here in southeast Alaska, but I can't confirm that. We have Hobo spiders as well, typical house spiders, Orb Weavers, and wolf spiders.

That is definitly a large garden spider, I've found a Golden Orb Weaver up here sitting in the very middle of a big perfectly oval web. It looked like something out of national geographic!

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: AKSE]
    #6046058 - 09/10/06 06:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

cases of recluse reported in the PNW began oddly enough in the 30s around the same time the Hobo spider was introduced, and began to decrese gradually as the hobo spider became more and more recognized as the actual culprit.

most people dont actually SEE the spider that bites them tho. as the hobos bite is mostly painless untill it sets in hours later.

recluse bites are like fire

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #6046613 - 09/10/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

They are rare but I have found them as far north as Wyoming.

I have found that most animal range maps are very inacurate. Most mark areas they are commonly found but not the areas were they are rare, or sparsely populated.

If you want to get rid of spiders in your home you have two choices. Chemical poison, or releasing 1-3 house geckos. I've seen house gekos clean a 4 unit apartment building of roaches in less then a week. The roaches never returned.
Of course with spiders that size you will need a bigger lizard.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: cricket]
    #6046972 - 09/10/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

haha big lizards


but wont the geckos shit and piss all over my house and make it smell?


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: AKSE]
    #6047044 - 09/10/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Freaking hobo spiders were all over the place in my house in Anchorage.

Only really freaky looking spider I ever saw up there in Alaska, since I moved down to Arizona I've seen some big bad looking motherfuckers.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: LethalX5]
    #6052220 - 09/12/06 12:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The big ones like you show in your post are females. Before long they will mate and start hatching thousands of babies.

2-3 small lizards will generate no noticable smell.
As far as shit and piss. It will be less then 3 of those big ass, spiders will drop. You probably track in more on your shoes after walking through a park or public bathroom.


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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: cricket]
    #6052328 - 09/12/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I fucking hate spiders. They give me the heebie jeebies.

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Re: Name this spider (large pics) [Re: LethalX5]
    #6052442 - 09/12/06 04:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Spiders are all over my house.. they never really bother me. At least they take out other insects :shrug:

There used to be some kind of spider in my room that would go into hiding whenever I was around. When I was sleeping, it would come out and get under the covers. The thing(s) would bite me sometimes in my sleep. Woke up to one biting me once. Everyone once in a while I'd have little bite marks on my body when I got up in the morning..

A similar but more startling situation was when I woke up to a wasp under my covers while I was in bed! It was moving extremely fast and making a buzzing noise. I had rolled over in my sleep and put my hand right on the wasp. It started going crazy.

Cool pics and interesting looking spider. :crazy2:


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