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 DreaMaTrix
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 Psilocybe cubensis [GT] on brf cake, cased 50/50+. 
#603531 - 04/09/02 04:51 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not a full grow log, these were cased 28-3-2002
Ok, brf/verm= 1 pint.
Casing=peat/verm/lime/oyster shells.
Humidity/temperature=98+rh/70-78F
Did I miss anything?
Today 9-4-2002
Ok, this log serves 2 purposes.
1~ My friend also has bird seed/coco-coir casings in the same strain, so these can be compared.
2~ Cos I like posting her pictures [image]/forums/w3timages/icons/tongue.gif[/image]
Good Luck
Edited by concretefeet (02/07/05 06:35 AM)
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 Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#603568 - 04/09/02 05:38 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like this is going to be a fun one to watch 
Good luck.
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 Re: GT grow log [Re: Split]
#603583 - 04/09/02 05:58 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks good.....keep us updated
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#604029 - 04/10/02 05:01 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Plenty of pins i must add. Keep it going, you?re doing well.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: MAIA]
#604239 - 04/10/02 11:40 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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BTW, i noticed some droplets have formed on the casing layer, that?s probably a result of high Rh, this is not bad but is better if it didn?t happen, try setting Rh to 80-85 range, that?s the best for casings, cakes like 95+ Rh though.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: MAIA]
#604307 - 04/10/02 12:49 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, true to all grow logs here is 24 hours later (don?t know if I will keep it up!).
Pins r looking good.
Maia, the droplets are a result of high rh and misting prior to pinning. The misting has stopped now, but the moisture is attracted to already present moisture droplets on the casing. They will be moved to 85rh soon. I was under the impression that casings need to be at 95+ until pinheads are pea sized, to prevent loss of moisture from the casing layer.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#605398 - 04/11/02 12:44 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Update 11-4 (2 days from first post).
The coir on the other hand, is overlaid. The mycelium ripped through it. I have patched twice, no room left for any casing.Deep scratching has been suggested, but I think I?ll leave it a few more days. info:
Substrate= birdseed, 1 pint
Casing= straight coco-coir
Humidity/temperature=98+rh/70-78F
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#605597 - 04/11/02 04:47 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would throw a 50/50 layer on top of that
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DreaMaTrix
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Funny, I posted the overlay problem in mushroom cultivation, and suggested should I put a 50/50 on top. Only replies I got were concerning deep scratching.
Thats why I like this forum.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#605613 - 04/11/02 05:09 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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What about cold shocking the overlaid tray?
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Re: GT grow log [Re: Banshee]
#605647 - 04/11/02 06:09 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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They were cold shocked 3 days after casing.
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Edited by DreaMaTrix (04/11/02 06:19 PM)
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#606481 - 04/12/02 01:35 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok todays offering:
Good luck
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#606764 - 04/12/02 08:01 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: GT grow log [Re: clearblue]
#606924 - 04/13/02 12:07 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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very nice even pinset, I can?t wait to try the GT?s!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: clearblue]
#606982 - 04/13/02 01:43 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bump on the 50/50, or what did you do?..... I have PR?s on Coco that are killing the Coco... I birthed them as soon as I cased them 1 week ago... and they are madly meciliemed (sp?) Ugh.... help..
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Re: GT grow log [Re: happygrins]
#607068 - 04/13/02 05:45 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, I didn?t 50/50 case it, two reasons:
A/ There is no room in the container. The mycelium is a the brim, and is now creeping over the edge of the container!!
B/ I did not want to disturb an hyphal knot formation that may be going on.
If it was a deeper container, i probably would have sprinkled 50/50 on at the point when I first noticed this being a problem (3days ago).
Just treat it as a big flat cake now.......what else to do?
I will post a pic later of the coir casing, along with an update.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#607097 - 04/13/02 07:25 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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A+ mazing
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Re: GT grow log [Re: happygrins]
#607297 - 04/13/02 01:12 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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And today...................
Humidity reduced to 85/90 rh for last 24 hours:
I sent a search party off, into the coir casing, they came back with reports and pictures of few pins:
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#607337 - 04/13/02 02:02 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those are looking fabulous. Very happy. I see the parameters above, but how are you providing air exchange?
Great job, it looks like the second tray will be sparser but with significantly larger fruits.
Very nice!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#607338 - 04/13/02 02:03 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Truely a nice Casing, I only hope our soon-to-be GT cakes end up looking as picture perfect as your casings. Nice work man, can?t wait to see more pics!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: TrAnCyNuGz]
#607878 - 04/14/02 06:04 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just took a peak this morning (18 hrs later):
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#607879 - 04/14/02 06:07 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those are some Good lookin Gt?s..
WTG!!!!
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#607913 - 04/14/02 07:57 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope the hell my GT?s look that good. I want your growing teks....
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#607930 - 04/14/02 08:33 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Final pics of the casing 14-4 :
180g:
Good luck
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#608047 - 04/14/02 12:09 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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super nice !
2 thumbs up.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#608153 - 04/14/02 02:41 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow dreamatrix, those are very impressive, I?ve never heard of 180g dry off of 1 pint.. so i?m assuming thats 180g wet... but by looking at the picture, one could be fooled.. it looks like a huge casing . I agree with you about this forum, its more laid back than the ?please drive on through? mushroom cult? forum. again, very nice!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#608183 - 04/14/02 03:51 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Beautiful Dream....Throw a lighter in the mix nextime please..
Thanks
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#608188 - 04/14/02 03:56 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dream, you have clearly shown that you are a very skilled grower.
I believe those GT?s will make for some quality prints as well.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: ]
#608205 - 04/14/02 04:15 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very nice casing Dream !
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#608352 - 04/14/02 07:01 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, totally amazing, an amazing end product that is a goal for most of us to work towards!!!!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#608360 - 04/14/02 07:08 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very Nice !!!
Great work....pat on the back!
They are so beautiful!
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#608533 - 04/14/02 10:59 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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dream,
was that a multispore inocculation?
anyone w/ experience w/ isolated cultures care to describe the benefits compared to multispore inocc.?
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Why don?t you hook me up with one of those 20 something prints you took off of them? I will trade for it. Nice yield bro.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: Pennywise]
#608759 - 04/15/02 04:14 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the nice feedback.
Pavlovs Dog:
>I?ve never heard of 180g dry off of 1 pint.. so i?m assuming thats 180g wet...
Yeah, wet, but! I tried a little experiment....... I knocked the humidity off for about 2 hours before i took some caps for printing. They were starting to shrivel slightly. Too bad I can?t weigh them dry, after i get my prints I throw the rest away 
thescientist: yes, mulispore innoc.
Pennywise: I have a few prints if you want to trade thats cool. Anybody else who would like to trade a print off these let me know.
enter:
>Please do another grow log soon.
ok
>Perhaps you could try to outdo Una or Anno at the Pan Cyans...(?)
I?m not here to outdo anybody. I learn more off here, and hope others can learn something from this thread.
I will post a pic of the coir casing later........ when I?ve showered
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#609124 - 04/15/02 02:19 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Dream,
Whats your setup like in there?
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The birdseed/coir 15-4:
There a bit of yellow on the myc?, I?m hoping its just bi-product (not as bad as it looks in this pic!).
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#609265 - 04/15/02 04:56 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bro, you are getting some massive pinsets. Im very impressed.
What are you using for a terrarium, and for air exchange? Any tips on how you?re getting such a dense, even flush?
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#610074 - 04/16/02 01:47 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Coir/birdseed today:
Good luck
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#610327 - 04/14/02 04:24 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like you got quite the harvest in your last 2 casing?s. Them are some Pic-Perfect?s!!! Good luck w/ all your future projects, and ENJOY!!!
Edited by TrAnCyNuGz (04/14/02 04:31 PM)
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#610879 - 04/17/02 12:41 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Coir today:
For your amusement, a different casing, largest cap 3.5" :
Good luck
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#610893 - 04/17/02 12:58 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sweeet!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#611832 - 04/18/02 11:04 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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WoW!
Perhaps you could describe what that filtering device in the back is? Part of your terrarium?
I do not see you obligated to tell us your growing secrets, but damn!, those are fatty fruits and I would like to know how to replicate such results.
what beautiful pinsets though!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#611981 - 04/18/02 01:33 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man I?ve got to get you a tapalpa print !! Amazing stuff you?re doing there!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: ]
#613585 - 04/20/02 06:19 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Coir casing today 20-4:
Conclusion, coir has larger fruits, more abhorts.
50/50 is her preference from here on.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#613643 - 04/20/02 08:22 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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They?re beautiful. I hope you have fun. I?m jealous.......
I wanted to have some a week ago. Me and my friends are going on a nature trip for a weekend. I can?t wait!
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#613782 - 04/20/02 11:27 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy shit man.
Let me get this straight. THis is a multispore innoculation, on just cased birdseed, without compost or dung? How the hell did you get those size of fruits. They look like allt he same size as well.
Thats amazing man, I dont understnad how you got a dense of a flush like that from just casing birdseed.
Whats the specs on the casing with the huge caps?
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#614084 - 04/20/02 06:44 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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PR?s are known for massive overlay esp on coir
just recently i did my first PR casing ever with about 70/30 coir/verm and got no overlay; only a few aggresive patches.
if i can get pics of it i will post them up
it took over 2 weeks after shocking to pin and still no overlay.
cubies just LOVE coir because of its density; structure moreso i think than its water retention properties; unlive verm which i believe is just the best at supplying moisture.
i believe it is so suitable that you need to make the environment slightly less favorable. growing in the wild they will never get 95% humidity 24/7 agreed?
i kept my temps after shocking between 69 and 75 and with no humidity gauge; but no condensation on the walls at all;they got perlite humidification in the terrarium and 2 holes on either end of the rubbermaid container (at bottom close to perlite) about 3x3 inches covered with MM filter disks. fan 1-2x a day. i would guess rh stayed between 70 and 85; but never any condensation. the misting to keep it from drying out was ended after 1 week and allowed the to layer to evaporate. the top layer would dry slightly and even the mycellium growth a bit; and pins formed appx 6-7 days after i stopped misting.
coir is just TOO suitable IMHO and if youre not careful; overlay will come.
only my personal experience tho.
i gotta get me some gt?s; i want something that grows fast and still potent enough to hang with the big boy cubes (KS were pathetic potency IMHO)
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#627369 - 05/12/02 03:07 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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2nd flush on birdseed coir, after a 2 week cold shock (she went away).
Fruits fell over after a near drop!
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>Whats the specs on the casing with the huge caps?
Birdseed w/ coir casing, exactly as other casings! Amazing 
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#627503 - 05/12/02 06:26 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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you used 1 pint for the casings right? what size is the container you put them in and where did you find it? when you dropped the rh to 85-90, how did you maintain that rh? are you using perlite?
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Re: GT grow log [Re: junglized]
#627514 - 05/12/02 06:36 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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>you used 1 pint for the casings right? what size is the container you put them in and where did you find it? when you dropped the rh to 85-90, how did you maintain that rh? are you using perlite?
Yes, 2 x 1/2 pint cakes or 2 x 1/2 pint jars of b/seed.
Containers are 190mm x 240mm x 80mm ....or..... 7.5" x 9.5" x 3".
My friend got them from her local garden center, holes in the bottom taped up, she has some without holes, but these are more expensive.
Rh was maintained in the fruiting chamber by using a ultrasonic humidifier on a timer, pre-pinning was done in a large fish tank filled w/ perlite (99rh).
Hope this helps!
Good luck.
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#631684 - 05/15/02 12:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Second flush brf - 50/50
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#633654 - 05/16/02 07:21 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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What kind of ultrasonic humidifire are you using and what is the timing sequence on it? how long on, how long off....
You gots mad skillz.
cant wait, i get my GT print in the mail tommrow.
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DreaMaTrix
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Re: GT grow log [Re: Alpheratus]
#633826 - 05/17/02 01:21 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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>What kind of ultrasonic humidifire are you using
Pifco. Its difficult to find an u.s.h. here, the one I found I payed ?4 for on ebay , thats about $6, and retails at ?90 ($135).
>and what is the timing sequence on it? how long on, how long off....
A segment timer was used, the type where you push down the segment giving a 15 minute on period. This has to be experimented with and will probably take a few days to get right. Depending on the size of fruiting chamber etc. The on/off times used were 15 minutes/1.5 hours, as I said experiment because the humidity also fluctuates with the temperature.
Good luck
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Re: GT grow log [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#633878 - 05/17/02 03:10 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow, that?s an outstanding harvest. nice, even coverage and gorgeous fruits!
take care! stay safe...
-bizarro
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