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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047585 - 09/10/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Again, you are missing parts of my posts on purpose. "The book "The spirit of Islam," by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.""

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Who the hell is Aziz A. Tabbarah?  :confused:

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Again, now you are attacking me like you did before. I asked you before "Is reading the Quran = converting to Islam?"

I am re-reading the Bible right now too. Next I will read the Book of Mormon. I also have some mythology books that I have read before and I will read them again. And I will prolly reread the Quran later again.




You once remarked that if you were ever going to convert to a religion, it would be Islam. I LOL'd when I read that.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Basilides]
    #6047599 - 09/10/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Again, you are missing parts of my posts on purpose. "The book "The spirit of Islam," by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.""

I will post more from that website, it is currently offline.




Who the hell is Aziz A. Tabbarah?  :confused:




An Islamic scholar I think. I'll tell you more when the site is up again.

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Again, now you are attacking me like you did before. I asked you before "Is reading the Quran = converting to Islam?"

I am re-reading the Bible right now too. Next I will read the Book of Mormon. I also have some mythology books that I have read before and I will read them again. And I will prolly reread the Quran later again.





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You once remarked that if you were ever going to convert to a religion, it would be Islam. I LOL'd when I read that.




I honestly don't remember saying that but I might have. Then again I am almost 21 now and have changed quite a bit. Now I just study religion as a hobby. Is there something wrong with studying religion and changing your opinion over time?


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047615 - 09/10/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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An Islamic scholar I think. I'll tell you more when the site is up again.




Holy shit, he's an Islamic scholar? Really? Wow, I didn't know that. I won't dare to question the fucker.

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I honestly don't remember saying that but I might have. Then again I am almost 21 now and have changed quite a bit. Now I just study religion as a hobby. Is there something wrong with studying religion and changing your opinion over time?




I think it's bizarre how Islam went from being your favorite religion from a secular point of view, to your least favorite. :shrug: That's all


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047617 - 09/10/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Again, you are missing parts of my posts on purpose. "The book "The spirit of Islam," by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.""

I will post more from that website, it is currently offline.




To this effect, Jerry Fallwell says: 'hopefully the majority of people who call themseleves christians, don't listen to poor sources on Christainity like me'

So, the Quran doesnt promote the act of lying, beyond to save your life, but some douches interpertation does (*cough* Pat Robertson)?


Poor religous leaders drag down religons. PERIOD. Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, Iman Al-Zarwahiri, blame the leaders, not the religon.



WTF am i saying, i cant belive im defending ANY religon.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #6047632 - 09/10/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You're not defending religion, you're simply using your ability of logic and reason.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Basilides]
    #6047636 - 09/10/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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An Islamic scholar I think. I'll tell you more when the site is up again.




Holy shit, he's an Islamic scholar? Really? Wow, I didn't know that. I won't dare to question the fucker.




Of course you can question but you have to realize that a lot of Muslims do follow everything a scholar says and the way he interprets the Quran.

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I think it's bizarre how Islam went from being your favorite religion from a secular point of view, to your least favorite. :shrug: That's all




Actually Zahid made me hate Islam and that was his purpose too or at least that's what he said. That piece of shit was a troll who posted bullshit about Islam and then at the end said it was some sociology class experiment, lol. That is when I decided to do some research on Islam.


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Again, you are missing parts of my posts on purpose. "The book "The spirit of Islam," by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.""

I will post more from that website, it is currently offline.




To this effect,  Jerry Fallwell says: 'hopefully the majority of people who call themseleves christians, don't listen to poor sources on Christainity like me'

So, the Quran doesnt promote the act of lying, beyond to save your life, but some douches interpertation does (*cough* Pat Robertson)?


Poor religous leaders drag down religons. PERIOD.  Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, Iman Al-Zarwahiri, blame the leaders, not the religon.



WTF am i saying, i cant belive im defending ANY religon.




I completely agree with you man. We really should monitor what is being said in Mosques by the religious leaders and by the scholars. We also need to do something about Saudi Arabia which pumping out radical Muslims with our money.

We also should bring more Muslims into the US and assimilate them. There are actually Muslims that have to leave their home countries because of death threats. A lot of scholars that have different views on Islam are hated by the fundamentalists.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047651 - 09/10/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Of course you can question but you have to realize that a lot of Muslims do follow everything a scholar says and the way he interprets the Quran.




Then why don't you question yourself - consider the very real probability that this douchebag doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. You seem to think that "Islamic scholars" are free from err, which is why you're refErring me to some douchebag that I've never heard of.

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Actually Zahid made me hate Islam and that was his purpose too or at least that's what he said. That piece of shit was a troll who posted bullshit about Islam and then at the end said it was some sociology class experiment, lol. That is when I decided to do some research on Islam.




LOL.. you really were about to convert, were you?


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Basilides]
    #6047665 - 09/10/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Then why don't you question yourself - consider the very real probability that this douchebag doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. You seem to think that "Islamic scholars" are free from err, which is why you're refErring me to some douchebag that I've never heard of.




Yes, but it doesn't matter what I think. What I think won't change the fact that Muslims are believing that bullshit.

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LOL.. you really were about to convert, were you?




No


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047694 - 09/10/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

You do realize who you're debating with, right?

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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047706 - 09/10/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, here's a lesson for you on religion. You can basically find a scholar to support virtually anything, from gay meth sex and drunken swingers parties to flying planes into buildings and pushing one's own mother down the stairs. Fortunately there's a common sense threshold among the majority of followers of any religion, which is why they mostly work 9-5 jobs, and on Fridays ask God for forgiveness because they refused to donate a dollar for cancer research at McDonald's or something. Radical Islamist scholars do not precede Islam. They are merely the clockwork grease of something engineered long ago by moral loners.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Redstorm]
    #6047726 - 09/10/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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:lol:

You do realize who you're debating with, right?




Wait, that's Zahid?

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Well, here's a lesson for you on religion. You can basically find a scholar to support virtually anything, from gay meth sex and drunken swingers parties to flying planes into buildings and pushing one's own mother down the stairs. Fortunately there's a common sense threshold among the majority of followers of any religion, which is why they mostly work 9-5 jobs, and on Fridays ask God for forgiveness because they refused to donate a dollar for cancer research at McDonald's or something. Radical Islamist scholars do not precede Islam. They are merely the clockwork grease of something engineered long ago by moral loners.




Yea, I already said all of that in previous posts in either this thread or another.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047734 - 09/10/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lipsrsealed:

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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Redstorm]
    #6047738 - 09/10/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, are you serious? That's Zahid? The same guy that was trolling and making up bullshit about Islam?


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047741 - 09/10/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So you actually went out and started studying Islam after all that :lol:


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Basilides]
    #6047750 - 09/10/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hate you.

Well, not exactly. I had to study religion in 9th grade. We had to study mythology and read the Bible and analyze it. And this wasn't a catholic school, this was a private college prep high school. So I kinda wanted to learn more about other religions since that class.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047752 - 09/10/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, that's enough. If you want to continue talking about Ziddy, do it in OTD.

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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047773 - 09/10/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

heh, I don't hate you :shrug:

Really, your interest in religion is admirable. Frankly, this world needs more spirituality.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Basilides]
    #6047795 - 09/10/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Actually there was nothing spiritual about that class and learning about religion. It was completely secular and almost everyone in the class came to the conclusion that most of the Bible is exagurrated.


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: downforpot]
    #6047803 - 09/10/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Did they go over Nag Hammadi?


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Re: Welcome to the Land of the Great Satan, Smiling Mullah Khatami [Re: Basilides]
    #6047831 - 09/10/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No. We didn't even cover the whole Bible, just some important parts which I don't remember.


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