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Aluminium trays not good
    #603475 - 04/09/02 05:39 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

When throwing away the spent compost the shrooms lived on, I noticed the aluminium got attacked, certainly by the acids excreted by the shrooms.
Could the shrooms absorb the formed substance and so become toxic ?


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Jul]
    #603608 - 04/09/02 08:31 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I dont know. What kind of acids are in shrooms? I have heard that aluminum gives you altimerz*... you should use glass pans then no worries.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #603625 - 04/09/02 08:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

no i wouldnt worry about that... smoking aluminum is bad... but are cokes are in aluminum, and i say if cooking and canning coke in aluminum doesnt leech the bad stuff then growing shrooms in it probabally wouldnt either, just lay down syran wrap first if your paranoid


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: LSD_4me]
    #603930 - 04/10/02 03:21 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

The difference between cooking cookies and growing mushrooms is that mushrooms excretes some acids as metabolic wastes. This acid literraly disolved the aluminium (There where holes in the tray). The mushrooms could absorb the resulting metal compound as it does with the toxins excreted by some contaminants. If you then eat the shrooms this may then not be that good for you.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #603987 - 04/10/02 04:54 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

>I have heard that aluminum gives you altimerz*

What??


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Anno]
    #603990 - 04/10/02 05:09 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Some previous reports in High Times Mag (many years ago) reported that Aluminium had been linked to "Old Timer's Disease" - Ed Rosenthel (from Ask Ed) used to bring the subject up sometimes. The theory was that something in modern day living was causing this disease and they were suspecting the "silverware" (forks/spoons etc...) - thats usally now made of aluminium instead of silver was causing it.

I have read that this has since been disproven.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Jammer]
    #604061 - 04/10/02 08:14 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Alzheimer disease


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: zeronio]
    #604138 - 04/10/02 11:22 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

They tell you not to store leftovers in aluminum cans in the fridge....some people won't use most popular deodorants because most of them use aluminum as their active ingredient.

I don't think any direct link has been established, but I don't think the aluminum/alzheimer's link has been completly disproven either.  I think it's a pretty obvious link, they both start with Al, which is the abreviation for aluminum!  I hear the egyptians used to call it Aluminums disease.... :wink:  Egyptians were so smart because they didn't use aluminum...


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: vatoloco]
    #604253 - 04/10/02 02:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Some scientists were looking for what caused Alzheimer's disease...
The found that the core of the area in the brain was made up by an aluminam crystal formation, or something. Thus started the panic. But the aluminum cluster was very small, and people take in about as much in less than a month.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: mycofile]
    #604316 - 04/10/02 02:57 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

>They tell you not to store leftovers in aluminum cans in the fridge....

This is a nonsense advice (I know it?s not from you, Mycofile).
Aluminium cans have a thin inert coating on the inside, so the contents are never in contact with aluminium since aluminium corrodes in contact with acids.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Anno]
    #604474 - 04/10/02 05:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I've never heard of avoiding aluminum CANS for storage, but I do remember in a chemistry class being told not to store leftovers in aluminum pots in the refrigerator, esp things with tomato sauce or other acidic makeup. Most composite cooking pots have some amount/majority of aluminum. Whether it's causative for alzheimer's or not, it certainly isn't good.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Suntzu]
    #605187 - 04/11/02 11:10 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I couldn't say how accurate the connection between aluminum absorbtion into the body and alzheimer's disease is, though I was once told by a former chemistry teacher of mine (as if that makes it any more credible), that this connection is the reason that the antacid rolaids removed the aluminum flecks from their product.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #605325 - 04/11/02 01:17 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

eating through alum? fuck. i only use alum to smack myself in the head with to pretned im hardcore, but im more worried about plastic. if the shit disolves plastic and absorbes it, that would really suck. thanks for the post, i was almost sane again.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Jul]
    #605470 - 04/11/02 04:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Acid in shrooms:cool:...sounds like a good thing if you like acid. A two for one deal:).

Here are some pics of eroded alum containers.







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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Joshua]
    #605484 - 04/11/02 04:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

one good thing about alzheimer's is you can hide your own easter eggs


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: Joshua]
    #620496 - 04/27/02 04:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

WoW how many times have you used this?i've been using disposable alluminium tray's and have yet to see this happen.But i only use them once then throw away.


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Re: Aluminium trays not good [Re: staindblue]
    #620676 - 04/27/02 08:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

The tray in the picture was 17 days old since containing substrate. I recycle all of my aluminum trays when done. I have since purchased a teflon coated tray that should work much better.

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