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MycoKris
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LSA and Shrooms
#6032950 - 09/05/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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has anyone ever taken morning glory seeds and shrooms (or Salvia) together if so please inform me on the risks and if u enjoyed it?
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kaniz
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6032970 - 09/05/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did HWRW + Shrooms, I have no idea how many shrooms I did as I was pretty far gone on the LSA (17 really potent HBWR seeds).
I enjoyed it, added another layer to the trip and took me a bit deeper. No real risk - other than vomiting alot (from the seeds more than the shrooms). I'd wait untill the sicknes from the seeds passes before you go munching on shrooms.
All around I enjoyed it, and would repeat it again.
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MycoKris
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: kaniz]
#6033096 - 09/05/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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would eating the shrooms before the LSA be a better way?
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kaniz
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6033106 - 09/05/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ummmmm, cant say. I've only done the LSA once, and it was the most painfull, gut-wrenching, physically uncomfortable, had my trip partner close to having me call 911 for him expierence I've had.
Mind you, it was also totatly mind blowing, euphoric, and worth every moment of hell that we went through. But, I wouldnt imagine it'd be all that fun to be going through that while shrooms are kicking in your system.
Note: I also did a /very/ large dose for HBWR, the normal dose is only a few seeds, and I did 17, and the seeds were potent at that. I'd assume at lower dosages the physical discomfort wouldnt be nearly as bad - so maybe doing shrooms first may be all right.
But, LSA tends to have a fairly long come up, and also comes with a pretty heafty body-load, and throwing up seems to be pretty common. I'd venture a guess it'd be best to get the 'bad part' out of the way before tossing in other stuff.
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MycoKris
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: kaniz]
#6033136 - 09/05/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks u make a good point if i took the shrooms first it might turn into a bad trip when the nausa starts.
thanks alot
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thedudenj
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6033288 - 09/05/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i took ayahuasca with rivea combosa seeds in it and the trip was dominated by the LSa
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thedudenj
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6033291 - 09/05/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i took rivea combosa seeds later ate shrooms then drank ayahuasca and it was too combined to tell anything apart but it was smooth and good
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MycoKris
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: thedudenj]
#6033348 - 09/05/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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sounds interesting
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yageman
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6033473 - 09/05/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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My favorite psychedelic to use with mushrooms is mescaline or lsa. Thats not because I cant find lsd, ayahuasca or any rc's either.
Lsa Adds some personality, geometry an control to the mushrooms wild visuals, adds a sort of framework. They both seem to potentiate the other, not like an maoi ofcoarse, but its as if one doesnt overpower the other. They both give what the other lacks, and what they have in common is stronger.
A cool experiment is to see how little you really have to take of each. You could eat 3 grams of MG's and .5 grams of mushrooms after about an hour. Most people would be VERY suprized at how serious this mix is even at such and extreemely low dose.
They are one hell of a team.
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Edited by yageman (09/05/06 10:31 PM)
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MycoKris
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: yageman]
#6033493 - 09/05/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ill have to try that
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yageman
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: kaniz]
#6033509 - 09/05/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
kaniz said: Ummmmm, cant say. I've only done the LSA once, and it was the most painfull, gut-wrenching, physically uncomfortable, had my trip partner close to having me call 911 for him expierence I've had.
Mind you, it was also totatly mind blowing, euphoric, and worth every moment of hell that we went through. But, I wouldnt imagine it'd be all that fun to be going through that while shrooms are kicking in your system.
Note: I also did a /very/ large dose for HBWR, the normal dose is only a few seeds, and I did 17, and the seeds were potent at that. I'd assume at lower dosages the physical discomfort wouldnt be nearly as bad - so maybe doing shrooms first may be all right.
But, LSA tends to have a fairly long come up, and also comes with a pretty heafty body-load, and throwing up seems to be pretty common. I'd venture a guess it'd be best to get the 'bad part' out of the way before tossing in other stuff.
You used 17 hbwr for your first time lsa experience? You either knew very little about them, or you had some huge balls. 17 good seeds is ALOT, but im sure you know that now.
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Edited by yageman (09/05/06 10:39 PM)
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circularvortex
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: yageman]
#6033668 - 09/05/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya 17 seeds does sound pretty gut-wrenching.
If it were me I would do them both seperately. Maybe potentiate the mushrooms or both with an MAOI if I were looking for a more intense experience.
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MycoKris
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with HBWR i like to stay around an 8-10 seed trip
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6034307 - 09/06/06 05:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive done morning glories with shrooms before. i think it was half an eighth of shrooms, and maybe 500 morning glory seeds? can't exactly remember, it was a couple of years ago. it was a good combo though. do the morning glories first because they last longer, and as i recall they take longer to kick in.
i got bad cramps, i layed down for most of the trip. i recall it being pretty wild though. give it a go.
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ExplosiveMango
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I will definitely try LSA and shrooms together sometime, probably when I am slightly more familiar with shrooms.
I have taken LSA with pot and with alcohol (ethanol extraction) and have found it to be strange in combination. I am very aware of my relationship with LSA as a tool of exploration and universal connection. This yields to very powerful feelings of understanding and belonging when I have a well structured LSA trip (or one which I am feeling particularly responsible about). I always find trips like this feel pure, clean, etc.
Whenever I have done LSA in questionable circumstances or in combination it has seemed to create a gritty feeling over top of the revelatory sensation. This does not make it seem less significant, but more so gives me less security in my power over my life and myself. I think this is a good way to feel because it helps me to explore the reasons I do things I am (even slightly) less than comfortable with.
I don't feel like I'm nearly as 'at peace' with my reasons for using mushrooms as I am with LSA. I feel I have a greater degree of curiosity for mushrooms for some reason. When I do LSA it's more like exploring what I know, and relating it inward. Mushrooms seem more mysterious somehow, more like exploring the unknown.
So yeah, write a report about what LSA + Mushrooms for us!
(Just keep in mind LSA is very good at getting you into emotional feedback loops. Go into the trip confidently, with something to do or learn (think about). Just to avoid having a trip which is suddenly and from then on you wondering about why you're wondering about doubt.)
PS: I have had very interesting and powerful visuals from LSA + THC and LSA + THC + 1 Beer (man my stomach hurt)
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mateoonfire
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i have experience the gut-wrenching cramps of morning glory seeds, i found that if i eat a teaspoon of ginger 5 minutes after consuming the seeds it reduces the nausea to almost NOTHING.
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circularvortex
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Where is a good source to get ginger? I've heard lots about the nausea reducing effect of it's roots...will any kind of ginger do this or is it just a certain breed? I may like to start growing this to have around for these kinds of occasions...
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mateoonfire
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most grocery stores
I just go to the produce section and buy the root by the weight. dont bother growing it, i get a chunk like the size of my thumb and it cost about 35 cents.
if you cant find it at a regular grocery store try an asian market.
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circularvortex
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If I were to plant this ginger root would it be able to grow or would that not work? I like to grow what I use as much as possible, and it would be nice to have this tool around in a harvestable form. Maybe a local nursery would carry it. Does anybody know if a specific breed is needed for the nausea reducing effects or does any ginger plant work?
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: MycoKris]
#6034840 - 09/06/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Take the HBWR first(they take like 2-3 hours to kick in) and when you start to feel "something" eat the mushrooms. If you want to kill the HBWR nausea drink a shot of PURE lemon juice while you injest the seeds.
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mateoonfire
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Quote:
circularvortex said: If I were to plant this ginger root would it be able to grow or would that not work? I like to grow what I use as much as possible, and it would be nice to have this tool around in a harvestable form. Maybe a local nursery would carry it. Does anybody know if a specific breed is needed for the nausea reducing effects or does any ginger plant work?
whatever kind they have at the grocery store works great so any kind probably would, and i doubt store bought ginger would grow if you planted it.. though it might since potatoes can
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Wholefoods
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About ginger. I sometimes use 550mg Ginger Root caps. A 100 capsule bottle cost around $9 at my local health store.
I am still experimenting with how many to take with certain substances though I usually have very little nausea anyway(even from things like Amanitas). The bottle says do not exceed 4 capsules daily. I don't need them everyday anyways. >.<
The bottle reads. "Helps prevent nausea from motion sickness and helps relieve digestion upsets."
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thedudenj
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Re: LSA and Shrooms [Re: Wholefoods]
#6034951 - 09/06/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah low doses of psychedelics mixed with other low doses of psychedelics can be just as strong or stronger then a strong dose of a single one
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