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Invisiblekoraks
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Pretty pictures part 4
    #6025245 - 09/03/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Went bolete hunting twice last week and of course I brought the camera. Some shots for your enjoyment:

Amanita fulva always makes for pretty pics, especially young specimens


Edible bolete, probably boletus badius


Suspected boletus erythropus


More b. erythropus suspects, these were growing on a vertical ridge underneath large beech trees


I suspect this is b. erythropus as well, but they could very well be a different species of boletes


Even more...


Lots of calocera viscosa this year, nearly always picture perfect!


Huge fistulina hepatica specimen!


Slime dripping from the above specimen


Not a single autumn passes without zillions of sulphur tufts (hypholoma fasciculare), they start appearing right now in this region


More sulphur tufts


Cute mycenas (I guess)


I think this is laccaria amethysta, but I didn't perform a decent ID on it, so I'm not sure


Meripilus giganteus is showing up in great numbers with huge fruitbodies. I didn't collect them, as younger specimens appear to be edible, but virtually tasteless


Looking sideways at the cluster above


We certainly brought home some boletes (though not a really large haul)


Boletes drying in the oven after cleaning


My modest archive of mushroom images can be found here, in case you want to see some more: http://www.koraks.nl/index.php?page=&menuparent=2&module=3&parent=9&start=0

That's it for now, I hope I'll have some more time in the following weeks to go hunting, collecting and photographing!

Thanks for stopping by!


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6026053 - 09/03/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You're right - they *are* pretty pictures.

Great stuff.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: ToxicMan]
    #6026150 - 09/03/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Nice pictures man.

Out of curiosity, what sort of camera are you using and at what resolution?


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6026191 - 09/03/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

OMG your pictures are amazing!

Superb lighting!

Thanks for sharing!


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6026222 - 09/03/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Stunned as always. Thanks


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: eyehavenoi]
    #6026983 - 09/04/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the compliments everyone!

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eyehavenoi said:
Out of curiosity, what sort of camera are you using and at what resolution?



Canon EOS 20d, which has an 8mpix sensor. I rarely ever crop pictures, so what you see is fullsize pics rescaled for the web.


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6027138 - 09/04/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I really like that more people are getting into taking good quality hunting pictures, I think that not having the chance to evaluate and return to the specimen if it goes wrong shows that you truely know your stuff.

One in the bush is worth two in the hand. :laugh:

Thanks for taking the time to post your pics koraks, always amazing. I really like the "woodland tone" subtle colour of the photos. Do you alter the pictures in anyway? Could you run through what is normally involved?
I gotta get that new camera sorted, the native bush round here has so many amazing mushrooms it would be an excellent hobby to take up. I'm on a fairly low budget, $300 US , and with mushrooms obviously a good macro is important but I'm aware that the most important aspect is the operator.


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: Feelers]
    #6027187 - 09/04/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks for taking the time to post your pics koraks, always amazing. I really like the "woodland tone" subtle colour of the photos. Do you alter the pictures in anyway? Could you run through what is normally involved?



I must say that my workflow is pretty straightforward and involves few steps, in comparison with other photographers. Here's how I do it:

Equipment
The gear I use is a digital reflex camera with an appropriate lens, sometimes augmented with a set of extension tubes to shorten the focus distance. The low-budget digital equivalent would be a compact camera with a decent macro mode. Please note that for many species, no extreme macro modes are necessary; for 95% of my photographs, a simple Canon PowerShot A95 (my mother has one :wink:) would work as well as my reflex kit!

The subtle color you refer to is the result of one very important equipment decision: the use of off-camera flash. By this, I mean a flash unit that is not attached to the camera but can be controlled via a wire or some wireless protocol. This gives you the freedom to position the main light source independent of your camera, which results (if properly used) in much more natural lighting than an on-camera flash unit could ever produce.

Workflow
The actual process of taking the pictures is quite simple:
-Find a nice mushroom
-Focus the camera (I always use manual focus, autofocus is useless to me in these circumstances.) I always lock the focus and then move the camera towards (or from) the subject to get the subject into focus. This works better in the field than adjusting the focus using the focus ring (or buttons on a compact camera.)
- Position the flash unit in order to have the light fall onto your subject from the desired angle.
- Check focus in your viewfinder and fire away!
I let the camera's flash metering system take care of correct exposure. This is a feature which is available on every digital reflex camera and nearly every digital compact camera with an external flash unit of the correct brand and type.

Once the photos are on my card, I have to do a bit of post-processing to get them on the web:
- Download the photos to the computer using a multi-cardreader (connecting the camera to the computer works as well, of course)
- Since I work in RAW (which means the files the camera produces are a literal 'transcript' of the sensor data), I have to convert the RAW files to JPEG in order to process them any further. I use EOS Capture for this purpose, as it was the tool that came with the camera and I still like it best. During RAW conversion, adjustments can be made in exposure and white balance. Sometimes I tweak the exposure half a stop or a stop, but usually that's not necessary. White balance is set automatically when using flash, but in natural lighting, I sometimes correct the white balance to reflect the scene as I perceived it. Most images are not corrected in any way, however. I just let EOS Capture make its automatic settings based on the information the camera recorded.
- The converted JPEGs are loaded into Photoshop and resized to web-size (700x467px)
- As a result of resizing, some of the sharpness of the image is lost. This is corrected by applying some USM (UnSharp Mask). Alternatives are available, such as SmartSharpen and a whole host of sharpening actions and procedures for use in Photoshop and other image editing software.
- The finished web images are uploaded to my personal gallery and can be used on forums like the Shroomery.

This might seem like an elaborated workflow, but if you get down to it, it's very straightforward. Other photographers may spend time on tweaking color balance, contrast and God knows what else, but I find that unnecessary with mushroom photos, where I want to preserve the colors and appearance of the mushrooms as I found them.

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I gotta get that new camera sorted, the native bush round here has so many amazing mushrooms it would be an excellent hobby to take up. I'm on a fairly low budget, $300 US , and with mushrooms obviously a good macro is important but I'm aware that the most important aspect is the operator.



Your last remark is the most important message I want to send out to anyone who wants to try this. Blaming your camera when shots fail, will limit yourself in improving your skills.

Of course equipment is in the end a limiting factor in the quality of the finished image, but for web images resolution, this is not an argument. This only goes for high resolution images for (very) large prints. However, one thing is essential in mushroom photography (and nearly every other type of photography as well): the proper light source. Make sure you have a way of positioning the light source apart from your camera. Available light can be a solution sometimes, but usually, mushrooms are just growing in too dark places.


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6028022 - 09/04/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I know this has sort of strayed significantly, but koraks.. I'm just looking for a basic manual-focus digital camera. I too hate being confined to auto-focus when taking pictures. Is there anything within that realm for under say, $500? Canon looks like they have a lot of nice cameras but I'm not too sure I could afford one of their EOS's. I don't think Kodak has any manual focus digitals, and I've just started looking at Minoltas.

I'm not looking for a camera just to take pictures of mushrooms with, I used to be really into photography a few years back but my interest has sort of waned because I was stuck using a Kodak Easyshare something or other. Not a bad camera, just really limiting..


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6028153 - 09/04/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful pics!  :thumbup: I sooo want to get into photography.

Have you tried Fistulina hepatica before? I've got some in the freezer atm.


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6028228 - 09/04/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The Red Ewzzzzzzzz :thumbup:
Thats a wild photo man!


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: eyehavenoi]
    #6028323 - 09/04/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Amatoxin said:
Beautiful pics!  :thumbup: I sooo want to get into photography.

Have you tried Fistulina hepatica before? I've got some in the freezer atm.



Thanks!
No, I never tried fistulina, as a matter of fact, I hadn't found them before last month. They apparently are rather rare in my region and I decided to leave the specimens I found alone. Be sure to post here how yours tasted, once you've tried them!

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I know this has sort of strayed significantly, but koraks.. I'm just looking for a basic manual-focus digital camera. I too hate being confined to auto-focus when taking pictures. Is there anything within that realm for under say, $500? Canon looks like they have a lot of nice cameras but I'm not too sure I could afford one of their EOS's. I don't think Kodak has any manual focus digitals, and I've just started looking at Minoltas.



That's a difficult question, for two reasons. Firstly, beacause I'm not really 'into' digital compact cameras. I'm aware of some brands and models, but my knowledge on the subject is either up to date, nor very expansive. Secondly, because the <$500 is positively crowded with dozens of models; every manufacturer appears to have a couple of models in that price range, as it will fit most people's budget and therefore can constitute a large part of the manufacturers` turnover.

However, I can give you a few hints:
- Nearly every modern digital compact camera has a manual focus mode and a decent macro mode. Some cameras let you focus real close, but for most mushroom, such extreme macro modes are not really necessary.

- A sort of revolution is taking place in the area digital compact cameras used to suck: high ISO noise. This is the noise in the pictures you get when shooting at higher sensitivities, such as ISO 200 and 400. This can be a major issue when doing macro work with available light, which is something you'll definitely run into if you don't want to spend big $$$ on expensive flash units. At the moment, FujiFilm has a couple of models with very reasonable noise levels on high sensitivities. For example, the FujiFilm F30 has been on the market for a couple of months and it appears to be a very nice camera. It sells for somewhere around  $350, which leaves some of your budget to invest in accessories. Its major drawback (for me) would be that it has no hotshoe for an external flash unit, but it's up to you if that's actually a problem.
- Many compact cameras are equipped with some sort of stabilization system that lets you get away with slow shutter speeds and less motion blur. This can be very helpful in macro/mushroom photography. Take a look at Panasonic' Lumix series; most models have Panasonic's OIS, which seems to work pretty well.

It appears that only some of the more expensive cameras (> $600) have a hotshoe connector for external flash units, but with features like low noise and image stabilization, you can shoot excellent macro images even without flash!


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6028939 - 09/04/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sweet pics. :cool:

I have been seeing those M. giganteus lately also/


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6029771 - 09/04/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

koraks, I just thought I'd chime in with a photography tip (hopefully not too much of a thread hijack).

Lots of people want to take extreme closeups of their subjects. You can get all sorts of things to hang on your camera to help you get really close so you get super magnification.

The big problem you will soon encounter is lack of depth of field. Mushrooms are fairly 3 dimensional, and if you have a low depth of field, then much of your subject will be out of focus.

For me the solution was to use a lens with a relatively long focal length and stay farther away from the subject than instinct says. Depth of field is proportional to the distance the lens is from the subject, so if you're 3 or 6 inches away then your depth of field is likely to be only a few millimeters. If you can stay back 3 or 4 feet then the depth of field increases to inches.

The other solution to depth of field is stopping down the lens to a high f number, but then you rapidly start having problems with sufficient lighting. Most of my mushroom subjects are in forests where the light isn't great already. Stopping down the lens just makes that problem worse.

A low depth of field can be a spectacular way to highlight a particular feature of a mushroom, for example the edges of the gills. But you will most often want a high depth of field so that as much of the mushroom as possible is in focus.

So, to get better looking closeups of your mushrooms, try using a long focal length (telephoto) type setup and standing a few feet away.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6030045 - 09/04/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Simply stunning photos. Thanks for the shooting tips too.


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: ToxicMan]
    #6030370 - 09/05/06 01:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ToxicMan, that could be some useful advice. However, I do have some comments on it!

You suggest solving the depth-of-field (DoF) issue by using a longer focal length, as depth of field depends on subject distance. Two problems arise from this approach:
1. Your DoF problem simply isn't solved by increasing the subject distance, as DoF also depends on focal length. The math is a tad complicated, but what it boils down to is this: if you use a longer focal length and greater subject distance, the DoF will be exactly the same as with a shorter focal length ans shorter subject distance, assumed that in both cases, the subject is pictured at exactly the same size. Michael Reichmann has written an article on this on his Luminous Landscape website. It includes some photos that illustrate this phenomenon. Furthermore, although the DoF will effectively be the same, due to the narrower viewing angle of a telephoto lens, the DoF will actually appear narrower than when using a normal or wide angle focal length!

2. Increasing the focal length increases the extent to which motion blur is visible in your picture. A popular rule of thumb says to use a shutter speed of at least 1/(focal length). So with a 50mm lens, you'd have to shoot at 1/50 or faster to obtain reasonably sharp images. With a 200mm lens, this would have to be 1/200 or faster, which means you need four times as much light to reach the film/sensor to obtain correct exposure. In short: using a longer focal length increases the amount of light you need to obtain sharp images. This means that you'll either have to open up the aperture (use f/2.8 instead of f/5.6, for instance) or you have to bring artificial light into the equasion (most likely in the case of mushroom photography.)

So my advice would actually be the contrary: use a wide angle setting on your camera to obtain reasonable depth of field and at the same time prevent motion blur from becoming too apparent in your photos. Especially when photographing in low light situations as is often the case in mushroom photography!

In fact, digital camera manufacturers often help out with this, as many digital compact cameras have a macro function that is linked with the maximum wide angle setting of the camera. So with many cameras (such as the Canon PowerShot A95), you'll have to zoom out completely in order to get maximum macro magnification. Sounds a bit counter-intuitive, but when you get down to the technical details of photography, it all begins to make sense (also because larger magnifications need less extension of the lens on shorter focal lengths, but that's a different story altogether.)


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6030448 - 09/05/06 05:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks a lot guys, I think I might not need to spend as much on a camera as I orginally thought..


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6031448 - 09/05/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

holy shit can we say high resolution? these look incredible on my high def monitor..thanks for sharing. i swear i can almost reach out and touch them from here


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6031596 - 09/05/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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No, I never tried fistulina, as a matter of fact, I hadn't found them before last month. They apparently are rather rare in my region and I decided to leave the specimens I found alone. Be sure to post here how yours tasted, once you've tried them!




I found some last year but they were too old and tough to sample. Found 2 young specimens a few days ago and thought I'd freeze them as chicken of the woods freezes well raw, hopefully fistulina is the same being a Polypore...

I'll let you know how they taste when I get round to trying them.


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Re: Pretty pictures part 4 [Re: koraks]
    #6031937 - 09/05/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful photos and great advice. Thank you.


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