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The Art of Holding the Breath
    #6023276 - 09/02/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Everything is Consciousness
And Consciousness is breathing
The Holy Spirit
The Breath of Life

In Breathing is Life
And Not-Breathing is Death
Death is an Illusion
Our bodies die, but our Souls live on
Eternally, by way of Honest Love and Family Unity
And all ordered & governed by the Art sub rosa

A man in his studies learned
To begin at rest, then return to rest
A spiral stairwell opens, it turns four times, upward, through four levels of consciousness.
The man breathes in slowly for 12 seconds, holds his breath for 10 seconds, then expires slowly for 10 seconds,
Then in for 10, holds it for 8, then expires for 8.
And this goes on for as long as possible

And what this does is, this moves the occupant of the seat of consciousnes one level higher.
And the heart starts to beat faster.

Next he must take a quick breath of air, and start again, on level two now.
And again & again to reach level four.

A man in his studies learned that, as he met with each new level, his mind was open to all True Revelations, always connected to Art or Music or Dance, during the episode of contemplation & enlightenment.

So then the man learned to integrate the breathing exercise together with Art which he loved

As he tried to hold his breath, at the fourth level, he found that during the Supreme Miracle of Union with God, mistakes or accidents would happen

For example, upon entering the fourth climate, sometimes the phone would ring,
or the art or music or dance would lose it's perfect display of Perfect Oneness.
So the man had to build a sort of temple area suited to combine the Art with the Breathing exercise, to be free of any strange distractions.

The man also learned that by making a sequence of hand gestures, as if screwing a light bulb in with his left hand, and squeezing the air with his right hand
This locked him into the moment where his mind & gestures was deciding the fates of endless patterns of matter in motion, extending the end of the universe itself, and the central heart of God.
And during this practice often he would lose his breath and disrupt the cycle.

You can imagine all the energy of the atoms of the world as moving and swirling, breathing in and out.
Man is connected to that very breath of all things.
So if you hold your breath, it seems to speed everything around you up, so that the art and perfect timespace position all add up.
And time stops, because you are entering into Eternity, where everything is happening at once and basically revolving around you, and by way of what you love.

All trouble & accidents are bound by perfection
It is made that way so that only the Honest & Pure of Heart can figure it out
To occupy the space that is called Union with God



Often I hear people say,
why is religion so hard to understand, or god doesn't make sense
it's complicated, why isn't it simple?

i'm telling you how simple it is.
Have Water.
Hold your breath.

it's the simplest funnest thing that can be done
holding the breath, transcending time & space
nothing is more fun than witnessing the miracle that U/R God

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6023627 - 09/02/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Not holding your breath....but proper posture so that your breath can be allowed to fully function unhindered...to get lost in the breath.....to be consumed by breathing.....to breath properly so one can breath free...not holding the breath at all...


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #6023647 - 09/02/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

...the space between the breath is where the magic lies...an eternity there...


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #6023821 - 09/03/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Holding the breath is a part of pranayama, a yogic breathing control practice.  I have recently started to practice it while walking to and from class.  6 steps breathing in, hold, breathing out.

It is good :smile:

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: thatiAM]
    #6023916 - 09/03/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

by way of a sort of hyperventilating
and lack of oxygen

it increases the spin of the Merkaba Feilds
and can be used to raise the consciousness to the highest possible level


Nitros Oxide can be introduced for those having trouble gaining speed to arrive ahead of schedule (right time right place)

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6024470 - 09/03/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so its 12 10 10
10 8 8
10 8 8
10 8 8
10 8 8
10 8 8
10 8 8


over and over or does it go
12 10 10
10 8 8
12 10 10
10 8 8

etc? counting one thousand one slowly like a clocks seconds, or does it not matter as long as you are counting in a standardized manner?


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6024605 - 09/03/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
Death is an Illusion
Our bodies die, but our Souls live on





I disagree.

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6025759 - 09/03/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

let it be known
what is written above is just a sample
to give you an idea of how The Art of Holding the Breath works.

as for the exact seconds, 12, 10, 10
10, 8, 8

that is something you will need to work out for yourself
however, mastering this Art will make it much more simple for you when it comes time to occupy the ascension seat

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6025795 - 09/03/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Quote:

Telepylus said:
Death is an Illusion
Our bodies die, but our Souls live on





I disagree.

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :levitate:
Peace. :mushroom2:


:thumbup:


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6025852 - 09/03/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I only hold my breath when I don't get my way.  :hissyfit:

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Veritas]
    #6025870 - 09/03/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

for icelander and fireworks

we can remove that whole segment

it really isn't important if there is a soul or if it lives on after death

what is important is that through the Art of Holding the Breath, you can sort of pressurize time, to bring the mind to a miraclulous state where it's witnessing itself creating the universe and governing the world, like God.

as if when the mind has the power to control the breath of life like a valve, it suddenly has power over Life Itself.
transcendentally, one breath is every Breath, and one life is every Life.

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6025990 - 09/03/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if that was why all those guys were choking themselves while jacking off. I may have to give that a try. :thumbup:


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Icelander]
    #6025994 - 09/03/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ahhhh...yes, spiritual bliss through auto-erotic asphyxiation.  :tongue:

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6026043 - 09/03/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
what is important is that through the Art of Holding the Breath, you can sort of pressurize time, to bring the mind to a miraclulous state where it's witnessing itself creating the universe and governing the world, like God.




However you choose to get your kicks, I guess. I usually just try some mushrooms. :wink:

Breathing is a natural process, and it makes sense to allow that process to be, as far as I am concerned. I'm not so sure why we should try to suffocate our brain in order to perceive any aspect of reality. :wtf:

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6026092 - 09/03/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"However you choose to get your kicks, I guess. I usually just try some mushrooms"

I am with you on that one. Any technique used to impede the body's function sounds like crap.


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #6026435 - 09/03/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well if you read the thread carefully
i did mention nitros oxide
when
if used in generous amounts
integrating the yoga, bringing together gestures, posture, breathing, and Art

you have the catalyst for union with God right there
shrooms makes it easier yes, that's always a given....

the point is
by controlling the valve of the breath of life
you can speed up the merkaba feilds to a point where miraculous events happen- to anyone.
not just some people, but everyone,
this is a proven method that works

a map to total union of one with all
god works in mysterious ways
always simple, like holding the breath

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6026655 - 09/04/06 12:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've always had a knack for holding my breath for a long time.

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6028173 - 09/04/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Puraka: Means inspiration (taking air in, taking spirit or life in)
Khumbaka: Means retention of breath (suspension between opposites)
Rechaka: Means expiration (expulsion of breath, also means death)

There is symbolism in working with these three phases of Pranayama, but your number ratios are off by the reckoning of classical Yoga as systematized by Patanjali. The correct ratio of inhalation and retention is 1:4, beginning with 4 seconds inhalation, 8 seconds retention and 8 seconds exhalation. One works up to 5:10:10, then 8:16:16. Fifteen to twenty rounds daily, alternating inhalation and exhalation through left and right nostrils.

When one is able to reach 8:16:16 comfortably, the ratio is changed to 1:4: 2 (4:16:8 to start) the goal is 8:32:16! The retention time gets longer, symbolizing the suspension of the cycle of breathing (cycle of life) between in-breath (birth) and out-breath (death), or inspiration-expiration. Between the heart beat of the dual process, is suspension or 'cessation' symbolizing liberation or nirvana. You ARE right about the 'compression' or perhaps the intensity of Khumbaka during which Eternity may be experienced, wherein there is no duration of time. Eternity IS the Reality that transcends life and death, and which 'survives' death in a matter of speaking. It is the Realization of Ultimate Reality and the Knowledge that it is the Ultimate Ground of our personal self-awareness that constitutes Eternal Life, not our personal survival of death.


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6028720 - 09/04/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There are two types of kumbhaka:
Abhyantar Kumbhaka - retention after puraka
Bahya Kumbhaka - retention after rechaka

The four phases of breath can be combined in various ratios, and with other practices such as Nadi Sodhana (alternate nostril breathing).
Kumbhaka is usually combined with Jalandar Bandha (placing the chin in the notch between the clavicles) and Undiandha Bandha (drawing the lower abdomen up and in to the spine). These two locks must be released before the beginning of Rechaka. Mula Bandha (drawing the floor of the perineum, between the anus and genitals, up) should be performed continuously during Pranayama, particularly during Kumbhaka.

1:4:2 is the most frequently cited ratio for Puraka:Kumbhaka:Rechaka. This can also be used as 1:2:4 if Bahya Kumbhaka is used. However, there is no absolute proscription against combining both Abhyantar and Bahya Kumbhaka, using other ratios, or even continuously varying the ratio.

Some good practices are:
Nadi Sodhana -
In a comfortable seated posture, form a gesture with the right hand such that the little and third fingers are extended and together, the index and middle fingers are folded to the palm, and the thumb is extended. Rest the arm against the torso so that the third finger may be used to block the left nostril or the thumb to block the right. Blocking the right nostril (thumb rests easily on nostril, hand is relaxed), inhale through the left. Pause to release the right and hold the left (this should be an easy movement of the forearm) to exhale. To start with, use a ratio of 1:1 or 1:2 Puraka:Rechaka. If you decide to incorporate Kumbhaka, be sure to incorporate the bandhas mentioned above.

Kapalabhati - this is a quick breath with emphasis on exhalation. To begin, inhale to a relaxed state. Exhale forcefully - following exhalation, relax - you should inhale without any muscular effort, as you have forced more air out of your lungs than they hold when relaxed. Repeat exhalation, and gradually increase the speed of your breath. Stay relaxed and don't force it.

Bhastrika - similar to kapalabhati, but with equal emphasis on inhalation and exhalation. This is a more challenging practice - to start with, emphasize the inhalation, and allow exhalation to be relaxed. If you don't consciously emphasize inhalation, you will quickly find yourself practicing Kapalabhati.


There are many, many other practices of pranayama, and various authorities give differing definitions and advice.

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: phi1618]
    #6029622 - 09/04/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not the one who needs this information. Pass it to Telepylus. I've practiced Yoga since 1973. Thanks for posting though.

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6030338 - 09/05/06 01:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yea, you guys are all missing the point completely.

i'm not even really trying to give instruction here.
i'm fishing for somebody else who may be reading this who has experience with Union with God, through Holding the Breath.
it is most likely that i am the only one operating on this level.

if anyone actually understood what i was saying here
they would instantly know that it is very important we communicate more on this subject.
particularly, the way that holding the breath seems to alter the flow of Time.

what i'm saying here is like this-
when a crocodile is cold, it's metabolism is slow
so slow that it cannot even see the creatures drinking at the edge
the crocdoiles mind is so slowed down
if a faun stood right in front of him for 30 seconds-
to the croc, he would only see a blip, and not even be able to react.
but after he warms in the sun, then his consciousness is more bright and activated.
the same is true when a person understands the breath of life
the mind opens up to a way higher level,
at this level ones, thoughts, gestures, glances, all carry a more powerful influence upon the entire world.
the world has it's own merkaba field that spins so fast.
as the human merkaba begins to mimic the field of the earth, that human being beings to tap into the earth, through the very fabric of spacetime/consciousness.

the more out of sync the human consciousness is, the more confusing and complex the world and universe seems.
as the mind begins to near a perfect spin, all things and events file into the true order of their compositions, and the being who is witnessing this, IS THIS.
and becomes one with the world, literally, in a big way, what is miraculous to behold.

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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6030376 - 09/05/06 01:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree holding the breath can alter time.I have spent an eternity in between breaths and/or exhalations..


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6030463 - 09/05/06 05:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ya know,...if you were in a Casteneda book, Don Juan would have to throw you in an irrigation ditch filled with water. Does anyone else in the immediate universe besides yourself know what you mean by a "merkaba field," for example? No one IS "operating at this level" for a good reason, your "spin" on things is completely idiosyncratic to you, so you've 'spun' out on communication. There is a reason why traditions are adhered to - common concepts and language for one thing. It is logical to share a common language - it's completely inflated of one's ego to assume that everyone is going to learn 'one man's language.' It is obvious to me at least that others here have indeed experienced Eternity between the in-breath and out-breath. Yogic pranayama gives rise to pratyahara, dharana, dhyana and samadhi in a rapid spike of higher consciousness. Some people Know that here. I imagine quite a few people since Patanjali Know that now, you also.


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6030466 - 09/05/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> it is most likely that i am the only one operating on this level.

Gotta love the ego!  :wink:


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #6030467 - 09/05/06 05:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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aNeway2sayHooray said:
I agree holding the breath can alter time.I have spent an eternity in between breaths and/or exhalations..




I suppose you mean it can alter the perception of time. :evil: :wink: :laugh:


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Re: The Art of Holding the Breath [Re: Telepylus]
    #6036526 - 09/06/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
well if you read the thread carefully
i did mention nitros oxide
when
if used in generous amounts
integrating the yoga, bringing together gestures, posture, breathing, and Art

you have the catalyst for union with God right there
shrooms makes it easier yes, that's always a given....

the point is
by controlling the valve of the breath of life
you can speed up the merkaba feilds to a point where miraculous events happen- to anyone.
not just some people, but everyone,
this is a proven method that works

a map to total union of one with all
god works in mysterious ways
always simple, like holding the breath




well... i belive i know what you're talking about...
i've expirianced "simillar" thinks when using nitrus, i of course would not explain them as "devine" or merkaba fields comming to a perfect spin. i have an idea of what you mean with these things but i have my own interpetation.

i did expiriance ME in the fullest sense, i heared my self thinking and i saw the world getting created around me from all direction (it was more "knew" then "saw" it was simply there.. everything!) counciuseness draws back into it's most primel state and notices EVERYTHING... nothing is taken for granted, not even your self thought patterns (which you've cultivated since being born and use subconciusely)

i haven't expirimented with this more then that, no spacial breathing or anything so i can  only guess what you mean.. it's basically a deep meditative state and totally present!
you can tune it in a sense.

personally i found it hard to deal with, it made me question EVERYTHING at once and i didn't like where my mind was going... a very dark lonley place. but a very powerfull one also, a sense of being the most alive i've ever been. my muscles were there to be used with force which i had no idea was in me! everything seemed far but so clearly present and there...

it makes you feel like THIS is all there is, was and ever will be and it's NOW on top of that.  :crazy2:


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