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Psilocybe friendly bacteria
    #6022736 - 09/02/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

From what I've gathered, the reason mushrooms grow freely in the wild without contamination is because there are other natural bacteria's and organisms that kill the bacteria's that would usually contaminate psilocybe mushrooms.

Obviously theres some sort of mycellium friendly bacterias out there. Imagine all the jars you could save if you figured out a way to cultivate these psilocybe mycellium friendly bacteria's in your jars.


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Re: Psilocybe friendly bacteria [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
    #6022879 - 09/02/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

There are anti-biotics that perform the same function.
besides..you would need a whole bunch of different micro organisms to battle domestic contaminats. (in some cases there is more than one hostile contaminant...one may react to a cirtain agent, while the other will not budge..get my point?)

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Re: Psilocybe friendly bacteria [Re: Tien]
    #6025244 - 09/03/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

your friendly bacteria could turn into a contam in the jar's environment. what happens when you get sick? sometimes your benign common skin bacteria could become opportunistic and make your worse. killing you. what if that happens? it's not worth pissing around to save one jar. just throw it out and start over. use better practices. and you won't have the expertise to cultivate those bacteria or to make sure they aren't contaminated or that they won't contaminate and kill your mycelium. plus adding them in could contaminate the whole jar (letting in water, air ect) not really worht it. what if the contamination goes away but there are still toxins left over for the mycelium to soak up and you to get some serious liver problems.


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Re: Psilocybe friendly bacteria [Re: Tamadragon]
    #6026404 - 09/03/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You must be very clean, They grow so well outside, because that's the way god made them to grow in nature, and when you do it in your house, you have to have very good conditions, outside, is laot cleaner then in your house, and if you arn't very careful and clean then you have a higher rate of contamination. Horse poo has good bacteria as well, i've mixed poo with seed and did my jars that way it worked fine, eventually it got the green, but i think the main reason we face so many problems with contams is
1.) people arn't very clean and careful when they work.
2.) Indoors they don't recieve enough F.A.E., outside they get it all day.
you are wasting you time trying to figure a way to save all your jars from contams, it happens to everyone, you can't stop it, when you get contams, get rid of them fast and keep the work area clean.

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Re: Psilocybe friendly bacteria [Re: DrugstoreCowboy]
    #6051873 - 09/11/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Contaminants" are anything you don't want to cultivate. These can be viruses, bacteria, fungi, etc. These contaminants are always present, except in the artificial setting of a lab. When you cultivate mycelium, all you are doing is making the conditions more favorable for the mushroom mycelium to grow, rather than the contaminants. In the wild, the same thing is happening. The conditions of a particular area are more suitable for mushroom mycelium than mold, therefore the mycelium is there rather than the mold.

Some mushrooms benefit from certain micro and macroorganisms in a symbiotic relationship. Some fungi haven't been successfully cultivated in artificial environments due to this fact. Such examples include truffles and chantrelles. Certain microorganisms need to be present in order for mushroom fruitbodies to be produced.

Our knowledge of fungal symbiosis is very shallow at the moment and is only beginning to be understood. Surely, fungi, as some of the oldest organisms on the planet have deep rooted evolutionary symbiotic relationships with many other organisms on this beloved planet we call Earth.

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