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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Ok

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Schlorch you wrote -------------You're either flat out bullshitting (like most other alien-types do, I don't care if YOU think it happened... it didn't, because otherwise there would be evidence. And evidence is only found when something HAPPENS, unlike...)


Now whose being absolute?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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"...and to the left where up is down now stand a zebra made of shapes of me and silver and the sun so bring no guilt with you up above the flatline let's just hit the sky exploding into one." [ HUM ]

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: skaMariaPastora]
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Just because God hasn't spoken to you doesn't mean he doesn't speak. Or maybe you're just not listening.

Or maybe it doesn't speak to humans. Just because you think you hear a voice doesn't mean that God has spoken to you.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: SofaJesus]
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Sofajesus-
Obviously you missed my post on heteroabsolutism. Baby steps... baby steps...

Furthermore, Shroomism is full of shit. And I hate it when jackasses like him just spit out pre-packaged bullshit.

Of course I can't see the aliens... I'm not "listening". Of course God doesn't talk to me... I'm not "chosen". Of course I can't communicate telepathically... I don't have the "gift". Of course I don't understand you logic... "It's beyond logic" or "It's beyond me". Of course I can't talk to spirits... "they don't want to talk" to me. Of course I can't levitate... I'm not "on that level". Of course I can't heal myself without drugs... I haven't learned the "proper technique". Are you catching on yet?

Look, I don't have a problem with imagination. I DO have a problem with people who boast about their "experiences" that only happened inside their head. "Experiences" that only a select group of "open-minded" people can have access to. It is hogwash and I can't believe you people can actually force yourself to think that those "experiences" (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you did actually have some sort of subjective "experience"... instead of just calling you a liar) were real.


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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Of course I can't heal myself without drugs... I haven't learned the "proper technique". Are you catching on yet?

Yes - you need to join Swami's "Self-Healing Internal Treatment" or (S.H.I.T) for only $39.95 per month you can participate in a study group at my website www.fullofit.com that will teach you everything that you need to know. Then and only then, can you be considered a member of the inner circle and laugh at the ignorant ones.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Swami]
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I didn't believe it either, that is, until I signed up for Swami's Self-Healing Internal Treatment program. Now I routinely bash my head in on purpose and with just a flick of the wrist *TA DA* I'm healed! Thanks Swami.




That actually is a website... hehehe


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Note: In desperate need of a cure...

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Dude, don't call Shroomism a jackass. Whether or not you believe in his experiences, he is just telling it like it happened to him. If you don't like it then don't listen.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: skaMariaPastora]
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I'm going to have to weigh in with Sclorch. People who "experience" Shroomism's "reality" should not be operating machinery in my reality. Automobiles, fork lifts, lawn mowers and anything with sharp edges should be kept out of their reach. I hope he uses public transportation (or teleportation) excusively otherwise he's a danger to others.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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You wrote --------Of course I can't see the aliens... I'm not "listening". Of course God doesn't talk to me... I'm not "chosen". Of course I can't communicate telepathically... I don't have the "gift". Of course I don't understand you logic... "It's beyond logic" or "It's beyond me". Of course I can't talk to spirits... "they don't want to talk" to me. Of course I can't levitate... I'm not "on that level". Of course I can't heal myself without drugs... I haven't learned the "proper technique". Are you catching on yet?


Not being a dick to you, I'm just saying you don't give yourself much credit --thats how it seems......Why aren't you choosen? Seriously think about that. Just cuz it hasn't happened doesnt mean its not real



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"...and to the left where up is down now stand a zebra made of shapes of me and silver and the sun so bring no guilt with you up above the flatline let's just hit the sky exploding into one." [ HUM ]

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Somebody needs to get laid..

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: ]
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Huh? What? The topic of this thread is Where do you get your information? Not lets call Shroomism names because we don't think his where he gets his information is valid?

Seriously though, I don't care if you make fun of me, call me names, whatever. If it makes you feel better about yourself then I say go for it. But try to stay on topic. And take a xanax or something.

Edited by Shroomism (04/09/02 02:42 PM)

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: ]
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The grass is greener on the other side. We think the past was better. We hear stories, and watch tv. It seems so much better then than now. Things arnt the same, what is going on. We must have fucked up i guess, maybe the world is coming to an end. Must be. The tv told me so.

Live in the now.


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The DJ's took pills to stay awake and play for seven days.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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In reply to:

God/ All that is/ Universal Insight
Does God// just dial you up and let you in on the inside scoop?



It's actually much simpler then that!

Im always talking, all the time, the question is not to
whom, but to whom is listening

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: ]
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I'm not being a dick just to be a dick. I'm not sexually frustrated (who are you, Freud?). I think I made my point.

I like how the only way you can respond to my post is by getting on my case for calling you names (sticks and stones, bub). Maybe I was just wanting to get your attention... maybe I want to have a serious debate, but I know you won't join in unless I attack you personally (if only a little bit).
If the strong language and incendiary tone are the only part of the message you heard, well then.... you fucked up.

You are part of a PHILOSOPHY (and Spirituality- note: NOT Aliens or Psychic Phenomenon) Forum. So act like a philosopher and make some friggin' sense. All of your "experiences" are "grounded" on the very same "experiences".... there is no method of doubt present whatsoever. There is no questioning the validity of your own "experiences". All you do is "experience" something and then run with that crazy fuckin' idea. AND I HAVE TO READ ABOUT YOUR DUMB LIES IN A PHILOSOPHY FORUM. And worse, you're associating Shrooms (a good thing) with jackass crazy talk (you're only ripping off McKenna anyways), thus changing the IMAGE of the psychedelic community in a way that is completely incompatible with most societies (if we ever want shrooms to be legal, there must be a non-jackass IMAGE associated with its use). That's why I call you a jackass. Jackass.


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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: ]
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Somebody needs to get laid..

Only sclorch? Are the rest here celibate?


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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I'm really not being negative here, but don't you see how futile it is to argue with shroomism over what he whole heartedly BELIEVES is true. The whole thing is pointless.


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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Shroomism's experiences deal with Aliens & communication to the subconscious and the soul. they also deal with Densities of the soul, thus to him they have everything to do with spirituality. it seems most that have opposed Shroomism's beliefs are always so pissed off, or rather, they attack his arguments by calling it 'Bullshit' and 'lies', and calling him a 'jackass'. yes yes i know, a lot of people (Swami especially) use skepticism and their own experiences to contradict him, but "strong language and incendiary tone" don't really have a place in a logical debate. But I am glad there are those people here to argue against Shroomism, and anyone for that matter. We need the debating logic in a Philosophy forum.

Also, can't God (absolutism) be unique in each person's eyes (relativism)? that alone seems to contradict you Sclorch. Everyone can have unique experiences but can still have a belief in an absolute truth (or not believe). woah that's getting into the other thread.... you don't have to believe shroomism, just don't friggin attack him.


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Edited by Blastrid (04/09/02 07:37 PM)

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Maybe I was just wanting to get your attention... maybe I want to have a serious debate, but I know you won't join in unless I attack you personally (if only a little bit).

If you want a serious debate.. try to avoid using words like "liar", "moron", "jackass", "full of shit", etc etc.. ad naseum. I won't even waste my time debating with you if you feel like attacking me is the only way to get my attention. That will just make me ignore you. I have no problem having a serious debate and/or conversation with you, so long as you can keep it respectful and act like an adult. If you want to think of me as a jackass, that's fine. I'm not going to even try and convince you otherwise. It's a waste of time.

Now, if you would like to continue this "debate" without attacking my character, I'll be glad to oblige. I don't care how much you hate me or loathe my personality.. show some respect.

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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Blastrid]
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A moderator from Mars doesn't fit in with an Earth Forum.
So, I'll gladly cut out the incendiary tone, the namecalling, and the whatever if Shroomism cuts out the aliens and all the other non-verifiable (what did you call it... "debating logic") dung he CONSTANTLY bombards us with. And don't even take that "you don't have to read it stance". Because I'm not just talking for me... I'm talking for the people who come here for PHILOSOPHY (not some weird, cultish, new-agish, mumbo jumbo- if you want to talk about that, make a new forum PLEASE). Don't bastardize the good name of philosophy.

Last time I checked, whenever GOD is mentioned.... there is "only one true" perception of God- that would be an absolute to whomever shared that belief. People who believe in a God are rarely tolerant. And if they are tolerant, it is only superficially (i.e. Christians getting along with Jews, but still "knowing" that the Jews are going to hell because they believe in the "wrong" deity). Superficial tolerance is even more preposterous than an overt "You sinners are going to hell!" complex, because it sets up this unbending elitist attitude towards non-believers. Even if you take a God-is-everything-and-everything-is-God stance, you're still setting up this dichotomy of right and wrong/"enlightened" and ignorant. This is what is the cause of most of the ills of this world. Believe in nothing = believe in thoughts. And don't pull the "but isn't that an absolute?" gimmick with me... it is a suggestion to a way of thinking (a philosophy), it is not an infallible foundation that absolutists so desperately cling to.

As to where I get my information... not from aliens (and I can prove it).


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Re: Where do you get your Information?? [Re: Sclorch]
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Even if you take a God-is-everything-and-everything-is-God stance, you're still setting up this dichotomy of right and wrong/"enlightened" and ignorant. This is what is the cause of most of the ills of this world.

That's a very good point. I never thought of it that way before. But at least a God that is everything is more tolerant that a God that explicitly states that nonbelievers will burn in hell for all eternity.

I agree that all beliefs should be replaced by thoughts. And along those lines, this is a forum for sharing thoughts. Spirituality has never been a well-defined topic, and I don't think any well formulated, honest thoughts should be discarded.

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