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OfflineDudeMang
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'return address' issue
    #6015384 - 08/31/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A buddy of mine recently ordered psilocybin spores for study purposes. He ordered them from one of the vendors that is listed as a sponsor on the Shroomery site.

However, he slipped up and put his return address on the outside of the envelope that contained the order sheet and payment.

My concern is, some spore vendors put their PO Box addresses up on their websites for all to see. So what is the risk that the authorities are monitoring that PO BOX? Maybe not necessarily opening all of the mail and examining it, but perhaps checking for return addresses at least? I am wondering what the chances are that someone will come knocking on my buddy's door?

Thanks.

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OfflineMicrocosmatrix
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Re: 'return address' issue [Re: DudeMang]
    #6015429 - 08/31/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Opening U.S. mail requires probable cause, and a subsequent warrant. If there was nothing on the envelope that indicated that it contained an actual order, they have no way of knowing whether it was an order, or a letter to the company asking for information. Therefore I'd say your buddy is in the clear.

And so even if they would show up, no warrant = no entry.


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Re: 'return address' issue [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #6016121 - 08/31/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, the door will not likely get kicked in.

However, if you're concerned about being added to some database/list, and crossreferenced when you pop up at some later date... there's not much you can do. Who knows? I think it's just one of those things that you have to assume *can* happen if you don't go the extra 110% security steps. I really doubt you have anything to worry about, assuming you stay reasonably below the radar.

If you're curious, I suppose you could find out some information under the freedom of information act. Certainly not worth it for a small matter like this, though. I'm sure lots of people are curious abotu what kind of information the government has on them. But, what if you don't have some horrible secrets on file? You sure as hell might get watched more closely if you're the kind of person who applies to see their files under the freedom of information act. :smile:


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Re: 'return address' issue [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6022105 - 09/02/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I found out recently that at one point in life some 15 years ago I was investigated as a possible bank robbery suspect. Imagine that, I never had a clue I was even investigated, and I of course never robbed any banks either.

The point is anyone can be under investigation and not even know it.

The best line of defense for someone who is into a lot of shit is to change jurisdictions regularly, like underwear. :wink:


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