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Invisiblerebelmoon
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Re: Plastic lid holes, 3/8 or 1/2 inch?? [Re: MicronMagick]
    #605996 - 04/12/02 01:18 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

yeah but every tek that recommends inverting the jar lids is flawed, imho. i have never done this and usually get very fast colonization. i dont see the point if you are using a filter of some sort (disc or polyfil or tyvek).

seems like it comes diwn to this: if you use plastic lids you better wash your hands with alcohol every time you check on a colonizing jar. if you use metal lids then dont worry about it (so much). not a big concern.

and who cares about rust? it never is more than slight orange around the hole in the middle. and it comes off in the dishwasher for me./ and more importantly it doesnt affect mycelium growth or sterility one bit!

i would probably use plastic lids again if i had a box of regular sized lids but the only plastic lids i have go to my old widemouth jars (which are inferior in mine and stamets opinion -- and so many teks unanimously recommned *them* as well!). widemouth quart and pint jars make for great drinkng glasses, tho...


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Re: Plastic lid holes, 3/8 or 1/2 inch?? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #606011 - 04/12/02 01:31 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

Just outta curiosity..you say paint them to keep from rusting...couldn't you, in theory, use clear nail polish???
I don't know how this would hold up AFTERWARDS when you go to sterilize 'em or PC 'em??? Anyone know if this will work??

I HATE RUSTY LIDS!!!

~K~

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InvisibleWakingUpLate
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Re: Plastic lid holes, 3/8 or 1/2 inch?? [Re: ]
    #606029 - 04/12/02 02:09 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

I suppose it could work. Not all paint is the same nor is all nail
polish. I guess the way to find out is to try it.
If you were a stickler for details, you'd want to use some high
temp rustolium. I have a friend that could carry some to work
and bring them back nickel plated. But rust doesn't bother me
that much. The rustier my lids get, the less of a newbie I am.
Thanks to the shroomery, I have a four cake casing right now
pinning exactly two weeks after the jars were innoc'd.
And the idea thet inverted lids are a tek flaw is incorrect. I
have tried both side by side. It makes a difference, for me
anyway. And apparenty for the guys who wrote the teks. But
I'm always testing and learning anyway.
:peace:
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OfflineOrchidman
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Re: Plastic lid holes, 3/8 or 1/2 inch?? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #606073 - 04/12/02 04:07 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

Boy are you guys making it complicated. All you have to do is buy a new set of lids only at the store that sells the jars such as Canadian Tire. They only cost a few dollars and the set includes the rings and the inserts. I don't think you want to have your mushrooms absorbe the rust or the paint.


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Offlinecookiewhore
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Re: Plastic lid holes, 3/8 or 1/2 inch?? [Re: Orchidman]
    #606109 - 04/12/02 06:02 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

or dry them off.
this is not rocket science.

Futhermore, any tek that describes inverting the lids should be disgarded as nonsense. i think these teks assume no filters are applied.
if you throw a filter in, most certainly you wnat to use the rubber rings on the lids, or else this would defeat the total purpose of the filter

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