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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016130 - 08/31/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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True enough, but say(HYPOTHETICALLY) half of America was white(say east) and half was black(west). Now, one side is being over run, what would the other side do? Help, or break of ties and protect themselves? Keep in mind, both sides have limited resources, etc. Now take the same country, but have it filled with all the same race, what would happen?
You catch my drift, or am I just imagining things?
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016133 - 08/31/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If one half was white and the other half wasn't, the whites would colonize and "civilize" the other half.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016141 - 08/31/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bah, let go of the past. There are people who still take slaves today in Africa. I would be inclined to assume that it would be the black side that would "enslave" the white side.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016149 - 08/31/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are punishing white people for developing technology. Had Africa become more advanced quicker, I'm pretty sure they would have been the slave takers.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016151 - 08/31/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't give a fuck about slaves here or elsewhere. I'm just saying exactly what would happen.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016154 - 08/31/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said: Bah, let go of the past. There are people who still take slaves today in Africa. I would be inclined to assume that it would be the black side that would "enslave" the white side.
Its a pretty controversial point but I see any race that takes the slaves of their captors usually has a feeling that the other race is in some way *inferior* if the slaves live up to that concept of inferiority is a possibility.
But this argument is a bit semantical.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016180 - 08/31/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I don't give a fuck about slaves here or elsewhere. I'm just saying exactly what would happen.
Not if the black side had superior technology. Then what would happen Redstorm?
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016188 - 08/31/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Then the whites would most likely get pwned.
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alpharedecho said: Bah, let go of the past. There are people who still take slaves today in Africa. I would be inclined to assume that it would be the black side that would "enslave" the white side.
Its a pretty controversial point but I see any race that takes the slaves of their captors usually has a feeling that the other race is in some way *inferior* if the slaves live up to that concept of inferiority is a possibility.
But this argument is a bit semantical.
Well if I sailed to a place on a giant boat, and saw a bunch of people who hadn't invented the wheel yet, I would feel a bit Superior too. I feel like such an ass saying it, but at least it's the truth. I am sorry if I am offending anyone, that is not my intent.
What if a bunch of African's sailed to Europe, saw a bunch of white guys living in huts? Do you think the African's would see them as their equals? If you say yes, you are delusional, no ifs ands or buts.
The white man is chastised simply because he developed Superior technology first. If anyone other race developed technology faster, it would be the other way around. Only I am not certain slavery would be abolished yet.(Only saying this because Slavery is still legal in some African countries).
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016203 - 08/31/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Then the whites would most likely get pwned.
By the invading blacks.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016215 - 08/31/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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For all intents and purposes the Iraqi people are essentially the US military's slaves due to our superior technology in design, production and utilization of weaponry. Nothing has changed from the Roman Empire to the taking of slaves to the US to the present.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016218 - 08/31/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most likely. I can't say for sur, but probably.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016240 - 08/31/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's right! 
Anyway, my point on this is, white man had technology first, made some mistakes with it. Now trying to correct them, but I don't think people will ever let us off the hook for the actions of our great*X grandfathers. It sucks, especially since I had nothing to do with it.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016249 - 08/31/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You don't have to preach to me; I agree. I was just saying what would happen in your hypothetical situation.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016284 - 08/31/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I see, well then, we are in agreement!
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
#6016294 - 08/31/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: If one half was white and the other half wasn't, the whites would colonize and "civilize" the other half.
Would the other half wear bling-bling and have spinning rims on their chariots?
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016309 - 08/31/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said: No I can't, just my opinion. So you don't think, that if all the people of the empire were Roman by ethnicity, that the empire might not have split up?
No, I don't, and I can't see any rational reason how that would have anything to do with it. China, which you spoke of earlier, went through several different dynasties, and spent a good portion of their history under Mongol rule. Should I then attribute this instability to their racial homogeny? Did racial homogeny also lead to the Cultural Revolution? Or could it be that race has nothing to do with it, and that power struggles are a universal phenomenon?
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Silversoul]
#6016346 - 08/31/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are missing the point, the revolutions that occurred with China were internal. The Roman Empire collapsing was largely due to external reasons. When push came to shove, the Eastern side(which was of different ethnicities) said "okay, fuck them, secure our borders".
If you can't see that that may not have happened if they were all one people(ethnically) then you are a lost caused. Another victim of our Liberal Media. Humans are a tribal people, they identify with those like them, whether you like it or not. Although in this day and age, it could be possible to live together in harmony, but only if we cut the bullshit and talk real talk. Not this PC pussy footing that goes on in fear of "offending" someone.
Keep in mind, that our countries are FILLED with people who hold more loyalty to their homeland than the USA or CANADA. This is immeasurably dangerous.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6016450 - 08/31/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you need to brush up on your history. The empire split because of internal power struggles, which led to two different emperors with two different areas. It had nothing to do with race. The center of power shifted to the east, and the Western empire was not able to continue defending itself from invaders. The fact that the Eastern empire did not save them had more to do with political differences than with ethnic ones.
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Re: White Men In America [Re: Silversoul]
#6016520 - 08/31/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rome fell for many reasons, Political turmoil like Silversoul says was a contributing factor. However economically Rome was declining as well. Roman currency degraded the farther away it was from Rome. Outside invaders like the Gauls and Celts sacked Rome a few times.
Only the Byzantine's lasted till the 1400's.
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