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Re: White Men In America [Re: Silversoul]
    #6015478 - 08/31/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, and that is essentially why it fell, when push came to shove, they could not unite in the way a racially homogeneous society can. With that said, I think multiculturalism COULD work, but not under these circumstances, where one race was originally a slave class.

Black panthers are not racist? PAHLEAZZE, I wasn't born yesterday, I've read some of their books.


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015497 - 08/31/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, and that is essentially why it fell



Nigga please! ALL empires fall. But the Roman Empire lasted more than a thousand years in the west and two thousand in the east. Do you know how fucking long 2000 years is? England isn't that old. Rome was multicultural from the beginning, and yet it flourished for 2000 years.


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Re: White Men In America [Re: Silversoul]
    #6015525 - 08/31/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ummm maybe I'm wrong on this one, but I think your numbers are quite exaggerated. Yes, Rome was founded 753 BC, but I would not call a few farmers an empire. So we will start from a more reasonable date. 450 BC sounds more reasonable, when Rome started its expansion. Then in 395 AD the empire was split into east and west. Do you think this would have happened if they were all the same race? The Western portion falls, and with it, the Roman Empire. The Eastern empire is now known as they byzantine empire, which is a different empire all together.

England has been around much longer than the Roman Empire lasted.

Same with China, and Japan, and Russia. What do these places have in common?


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015568 - 08/31/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I say get over your dam self, white people bring all this shit on themselves by interjecting a certain attitude,

I am half white/half asian male, I was strictly brought up on my white side of the family, as I had no connection to my asian half,

my white family pretty much treated me as a regular human being, and I wasn't aware that I was any different from anyone else, I grew up listening to classic rock, and pretty much only new the white culture that I grew up in,

but then I moved up north and the state I started living in was more liberal, but the weird thing was I started feeling some static for the first time from white people, this was a new thing to me for all the white people I was around treated me like anyone else. It was for like about whole year in which I started to realize that I was not perceived as an equal anymore, in fact I felt that their was something wrong with me for like a whole year, cause I couldn't figure out why white people were hatin on me,

but as I became more aware of the history of America and how asians are perceive I started gravitating away from white culture and into more of black culture, for some reason I started gravitating towards hip hop and hanging around blacks because thats where I felt more accepted sense I didn't really have a distinct race.

The funny thing about it is my last name is Duke, and my ancestors are from the south, in which my past ancestors were plantation owners

I met a black kid with the same last name who's his ancestors were slaves of mine, we were like distant cousins, we became best friends and hung out alot, doing nothing but getting in trouble and smoking weed,

As for my family in the south, they kicked it with blacks, but were still racial and referred to blacks as niggers was common, the funny thing about it was that I think that really the states up north were more racial but more covert about it. As for the south, everyone had the southern hospitality thing going, and everyone treated each other alright,

The reason why whites don't get any respect is because they bring it on themselves point blank, they interject the race card, and so everyone has to get defensive, they are the ones that first introduced it to me, it wasn't the blacks, or the Mexicans or any other race, shoot I think of late, that racism has actually grown a little bit which is kind of scary,

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Re: White Men In America [Re: capliberty]
    #6015586 - 08/31/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

We bring on beatings by interjecting a certain attitude. Sounds fair to me.

Did you read that story of the 2 boys and the mother, tell me, what attitude were they interjecting when they were trying to get to their car with out being beaten 17 on 3?


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015652 - 08/31/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

is that any excuse to carry on some irrational stigma, I mean your probably talking about blacks ganging up on whites right, I've had that done to me before, I've had 5 blacks corner me in a room, one had pulled a knife on me, and was trying to jack me for my wallet, stuff happens,

but whatever you make your enemy becomes your enemy, I've seen the synchronicity of racism, as I used to also hang out with this white kid from Texas who has a swastika on his should, he kept talking about niggers, nigger this, nigger that, but I kept saying man, you need to stop doing that, and sure enough, he gets pistol whipped by some blacks who then proceeded to steal his wallet and was tempted put a cap in his ass, and it was a random freak thing that it happened to him, everyones need to understand their part, and stop indulging in the ignorance and self pride, I don't know what else I can say about it, I mean your not responsible for you being who your are, no one knows why theres whites created, or blacks created, or asians created, so why take so much ownership in who you are, you or anyone else had no control in how you became in to existence, its stupid to have all this race pride, how about having human pride.

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Re: White Men In America [Re: capliberty]
    #6015667 - 08/31/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So are you saying the 2 white boys and mother were closet Nazi's and somehow deserved their fate?

I refuse to accept that in general white people deserve what ever they get, based on the past.

That is the attitude of MANY minorities who have told me first hand(I have quite candid discussions with my non-white friends about these issues).


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015692 - 08/31/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No you have to judge each case indivdually, No one deserves to get treated unfairly based on race.

But freak things will happen due to the past,

I don't think any group should be unfairly persecuted obviously, and that includes whites, but I still think we need to evolve beyond the stigmas of all this group pride, shoot I think we should have more interracial marriages, I think its good for gene pool. Also everybody will be getting treated fairly if everybodys mixed, lol

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015705 - 08/31/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't want to come between this, but I'm going to anyway.

Why is is that white people always and without exception classify a mixed-race person to belong with the non-white race thats half of his bloodline?

Thats interjecting the racecard, and you're kinda doing that here alpharedecho, you immediately shove capliberty away as belonging to the "other side".

Thats precisely the thing he talked about a few posts up.


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Re: White Men In America [Re: Asante]
    #6015823 - 08/31/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah wiccan not only is it half my blood line, its also pretty much my whole cultural background, I have only a little bit of Asian influence, I am essentially white in every way except half of my Asian side. Thats why it makes me more frustrated and pissed off when feeling this friction with some these white people that I've encountered in my past, I remember really being upset about it, I just couldn't understand how I could be alienated because essentially I felt that I should be accepted by all whites. But now I've accepted being a non-white as you say, I've accepted this perception but I do think its unfortunate that I have this altered perception because know I pretty much take on the role as a non white, which I don't really care anymore, but people that look at me like I shouldn't belong or something still pisses me off.

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015871 - 08/31/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Then in 395 AD the empire was split into east and west. Do you think this would have happened if they were all the same race?



Yes, and I don't see why you think it wouldn't. Can you provide any credible reason why it would do such a thing? Or is it some magical explanation where mixing different skin colors somehow incurrs God's wrath?


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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6015948 - 08/31/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Honestly, I think the US is doing quite fine, regardless of ethnic diversity.

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Asante]
    #6015976 - 08/31/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Why is is that white people always and without exception classify a mixed-race person to belong with the non-white race thats half of his bloodline?





You must have missed the change. We have been instructed by black people to call anyone who is part black African American. Nigger or mulatto was no good, colored was OK for a while, black is still OK but better yet the African American title was the BLACK peoples idea.

Anyway, be that as it may, why does Tiger Woods consider himself African American when he is half Asian? Shouldn't he be African Asian American? Or did the white man classify him that way?


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Re: White Men In America [Re: Redstorm]
    #6016021 - 08/31/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Honestly, I think the US is doing quite fine, regardless of ethnic diversity.





You do? Honestly?

We are in debt up to our necks, we are in an unwinnable war that virtually promises to expand, the housing market and hence the economy looks on the verge of a decline, and politically I can't imagine a worse time other than the likely future.


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Re: White Men In America [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #6016030 - 08/31/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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we are in an unwinnable war




Which current unwinnable war are you referring to?

The War On Terrorism
The War On Drugs
Iraq campaign
Afghanistan canpaign


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Re: White Men In America [Re: Asante]
    #6016033 - 08/31/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

All of the above.


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Re: White Men In America [Re: Asante]
    #6016053 - 08/31/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
I don't want to come between this, but I'm going to anyway.

Why is is that white people always and without exception classify a mixed-race person to belong with the non-white race thats half of his bloodline?

Thats interjecting the racecard, and you're kinda doing that here alpharedecho, you immediately shove capliberty away as belonging to the "other side".

Thats precisely the thing he talked about a few posts up.




Please point out where I said capliberty belongs to the "other side". Please do not put words into my mouth.

The answer to your question is quite simple. He is not white, he is not Asian, but rather 1/2 white, 1/2 Asian. To say he is one over the other is inaccurate. Just like you don't call someone black when they are 1/2 black, and 1/2 white.

What part of this concept are you having trouble grasping?


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Silversoul]
    #6016061 - 08/31/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Then in 395 AD the empire was split into east and west. Do you think this would have happened if they were all the same race?



Yes, and I don't see why you think it wouldn't. Can you provide any credible reason why it would do such a thing? Or is it some magical explanation where mixing different skin colors somehow incurrs God's wrath?




No I can't, just my opinion. So you don't think, that if all the people of the empire were Roman by ethnicity, that the empire might not have split up?


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: White Men In America [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #6016068 - 08/31/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Poster: Redstorm
Subject: Re: White Men In America 

Honestly, I think the US is doing quite fine, regardless of ethnic diversity. 





You do?  Honestly? 

We are in debt up to our necks, we are in an unwinnable war that virtually promises to expand, the housing market and hence the economy looks on the verge of a decline, and politically I can't imagine a worse time other than the likely future.




Couldn't have said it better myself. Well I will add the racial tensions that your country is facing. To deny them is just being stupid, you have blacks looking for reparations, Mexicans raising their flag on YOUR soil, ETC. I am not giving an opinion on my stance on these things(I bet you could guess anyway :tongue:)I'm just stating the tensions.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: White Men In America [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6016101 - 08/31/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would say split and fall of Rome had a whole lot to do with being overextended militarily and territorially (sound familiar?).

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