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OfflineChemical_Smile
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How to hold onto me?
    #600890 - 04/06/02 09:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I realy like my personality. I have the perfect mentality to appreciate all the weirdness that can be found but everytime I dose I lose myself completely. I also hear alot of people talking about how they figured out some aspect of their life and stuff like that. How can I think about changing my life when on my last trip even my toes confused the hell out of me? I want to use psychadelics as a tool for my mind not to destroy my mind. Am I just using the wrong substance? Do I need more practice? Help me out here.


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OfflineSherlockDrubu
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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #600894 - 04/06/02 10:04 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

You are either not eating enough of eating too much. When I am on higher doses I like to just let go of my mind and it is gets really weird. But at the end of the voyage into my mind, everything makes sense. Whether you choose to recognize it or write it off as the shrooms is your choice. Try eating them alone. Maybe try closing your eyes and thinking about things -- that will get you lost in your thoughts. (Though many times my friends and I have just stared at nothing lost in a fantasy world for hours with our eyes open)


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #600952 - 04/06/02 11:04 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I think you're doing fine but you don't realize it. To me that's what the benefit of psychedelics is: to dissolve the boundaries of what used to be you. To look at yourself and your mind from the outside and unattached to your everyday reality. This is how you know yourself. To truly know yourself you have to exist outside yourself for a while. And this allows you to think in ways *you* wouldn't ordinarily. I think you just need to learn to deal with what you are experiencing, it is all good.


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OfflineChemical_Smile
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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: skaMariaPastora]
    #600960 - 04/06/02 11:13 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, its not like Im having a bad time or anything but I could use some insight on relationships, goals, etc. I want to just climb a tall tree mentaly so I can get a better look at my life. Instead I end up on the moon.


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #600967 - 04/06/02 11:20 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

During a trip I feel as If somthing in my life and/or mind has changed for the better. And quite a while afterward I can still feel the change.
After long periods of time without shrooming, I am still convinced that there was a change, but cant really remember what it was or "feel" it anymore.


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #600969 - 04/06/02 11:22 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Try to look for hidden meaning behind the visuals. ie. why did I just see a beautifil tropical fish in my carpet, what metaphorical purpose could it mean? is it trying to tell me something? Keep on doing this and soon enough your mind will start piecing together all these theories and ideas about life and everything. At least for me it does.
Hope my tips helped,
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OfflineChemical_Smile
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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: pharmacopeia]
    #600976 - 04/06/02 11:30 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

That sounds like a good idea. Thanks


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InvisibleNeiL
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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #601273 - 04/07/02 10:56 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Usually, i do the most learning either as i am coming down or after the trip (the next couple of days or weeks) as i 'reconstruct', come back into being my personality and go through the readjustment to reality/ integrating the experience.

Most of the time while i am actually tripping i am just confused by my toes :smile:

...or trying to figure out how to manage to roll myself up in a duvet and lie on the floor.


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #602613 - 04/08/02 08:22 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Why not try a lower dose and see what happens. Take enough so that you get some nice visuals, but not so much that you get confused. Once the visuals start working their magic, allow yourself to "get lost" while watching them. I'm not talking about taking a walk in the woods, but rather excluding everything except the warp and weave of the visuals from your mind. It is almost like hypnosis only you are focused in on the visuals instead of in on a swinging watch.


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Seuss]
    #603527 - 04/09/02 04:44 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Seuss explained it pretty well but the phrase I like to use for the hypnosis state of being is kind of a mushroom trance. Just let the mushrooms take over and zone out (or in) to the mushroom state of mind. Takes a while to get used to, but you'll know once you get there.


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W A R N I N G
This signature message for YOU is formulated to GRAB your ATTENTION and.. allow your mind to sink deeper and deeper within itself.. right now.. as your eyes ROOOOOLL over this text you may even notice.. your breathing starts slow down.. and you.. allow yourself to.. become calm and relaxed.. and you'll.. feel drenched in a warm and fuzzy energy.. and every time you read this message, you might.. feel that same warm and buzzing energy getting stronger and thicker..

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"I had a friend once who told me that the worst mistake that you can make is to think that you are alive, when really you're asleep in life's waiting room." -waking life


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #606305 - 04/12/02 11:03 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

In my opinion, a great deal of the experience of the trip is influenced by the way you perceive your trip.

If you expect mushrooms to make you laugh, you might end up crying.

This may not be the first time you hear about this, but a mushroom trip will totally surprise you (your mind) everytime.

Its something you got to realize, and even if you KNOW that your gonna trip out and certain things will happen that weren't expected. Your mind will act like it wasn't ready for it.

We'll the point of what I'm trying to explain is: You can't really try to control your trip. Its difficult and pretty dangerous. I mean, I would love it if all my mushroom trips were like my first one. But I know if they were like that, I would probably get bored of mushrooms sooner or later. I hope you agree with me on that one.

So as an answer to your question.....there is no way to hold on to your personality. Just give it up. Its called "ego-loss". It can actually be quite fun if you want it to be.


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come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!" - Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here 1975)

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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: mrdasani]
    #606616 - 04/12/02 04:42 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

How would I go about choosing a good reality reminder? Go with the flow seems to be the most common advice here, and Im cool with that. All through this forum I read about different objects , toy, etc. that help direct mood. I am trying to direct my mind towards a more intellectual and away from just looking at all the pretty colors. I am after self realization not loss of self.


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #606618 - 04/12/02 04:44 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Alot of the things I read that made me want to try psychadelics were written about acid experiences, would acid be a more usefull tool than mushrooms perhaps?


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #607307 - 04/13/02 01:31 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

> I am after self realization not loss of self.

You cannot have one without the other. However, most of the people that talk about level 5s and egoloss and horrid trips are missing it at well.

Take a low/medium dose and meditate. Don't be afraid of the mirror (figuratively). Don't try for anything specific. Only when you have lost yourself can you find yourself.


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Re: How to hold onto me? [Re: Seuss]
    #607895 - 04/14/02 07:20 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I think it helps to NOT think about that, to just roll with all the thoughts in your head. The last few times I've had moments where I confused myself trying to go against my thoughts. You just need to LET GO. Forget about who you are for just one night, you'll find yourself again in the morning.


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