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OfflineThe_Red_Crayon
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Guys i just gotta say.
    #5999650 - 08/26/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Fellas my worst fear is slowly being confirmed. I think Iran and possibly their could be a major coalition being formed against the USA. Serious shit is about to be operational.

I give the Invasion of Iran 6 months. Iran is defenitely got shit planned cause they know exactly what is going on so im thinking serious serious shit is about to happen. My sources have revealed some revelations to me and id rather not specify on that.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5999666 - 08/26/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am in agreement, I am worried what China and Russia will do once things get under way.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5999686 - 08/26/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

China ain't gonna do shit. And Russia is bogged down in Chechnya killing Muslims too, so don't worry. Personally, I say we get Iran to attack USA then start the draft and then take care of business in the Middle East. We fucked with that region for so long that those people have been pissed at us for a long time, time to finish it.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #5999695 - 08/26/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It amazes me that you know what two of the largest nations in the world will do. I have 1 word to say: oil. That is a reference to where China's loyalty will stand.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5999721 - 08/26/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Red, I share your concern......however we disagree on political issues....this my friend, is turning out some revelations.....whats that saying go...????... the Chinese Proverbs about living in interesting times??????????


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5999726 - 08/26/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

alpharedecho said:
It amazes me that you know what two of the largest nations in the world will do. I have 1 word to say: oil. That is a reference to where China's loyalty will stand.




Actually the only reason Russia is in Chechnya is because of Oil too. And China is now trying to get oil from off shore platforms and also south America because they see that Iran is not a safe place to get oil from at the moment.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5999757 - 08/26/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SirTripAlot said:
Red, I share your concern......however we disagree on political issues....this my friend, is turning out some revelations.....whats that saying go...????... the Chinese Proverbs about living in interesting times??????????




Indeed my friend, Its the kind of deal where usually your not a real religious person but then you start cracking out the good book.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #5999826 - 08/26/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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downforpot said
Personally, I say we get Iran to attack USA then start the draft and then take care of business in the Middle East.




Well, this may get me in trouble, but whatever.

Fuck you! I don't know how old you are, but I am 19. I want nothing to do with the USA's military and if a draft were initiated, well...
I'd be a prime candidate for the draft. If you want a draft, why don't you just go ahead and join to save those of us the trouble of getting involved.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5999831 - 08/26/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, what do you mean cracking out the good book? The Bible? Quran?


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #5999847 - 08/26/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Im a christian so yes the bible... dont let the middle eastern deal confuse you... Ive been studying a lot of middle eastern stuff so it interests me.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: demiu5]
    #5999911 - 08/26/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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demius said:
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downforpot said
Personally, I say we get Iran to attack USA then start the draft and then take care of business in the Middle East.




Well, this may get me in trouble, but whatever.

Fuck you! I don't know how old you are, but I am 19. I want nothing to do with the USA's military and if a draft were initiated, well...
I'd be a prime candidate for the draft. If you want a draft, why don't you just go ahead and join to save those of us the trouble of getting involved.




Actually that is my plan if I fuck up in college or right after college. I love this country and will kill for it to make sure it stays number 1.

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The_Red_Crayon said:
Im a christian so yes the bible... dont let the middle eastern deal confuse you... Ive been studying a lot of middle eastern stuff so it interests me.




Yea, I've been reading the Bible too. I am around Deutoronomy right now. I've read the Quran too and wanna take a Middle Eastern history class later.

I am not really Christian. I was baptised by my Christian mom but then I came to America and my dad sent me to Jew camp for 4 years and then I kinda started to affiliate myself with Judaism. Then I donno, I might get circumcized and convert but then again I sort of hate religion.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #5999989 - 08/26/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

seek your own truth is what i always say.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: demiu5]
    #6000072 - 08/26/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

demius predicts:

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Well, this may get me in trouble, but whatever.




No "may" about it. I strongly suggest you re-read the forum rules before making your next post in this forum. No flaming. "Fuck you" qualifies as a flame.

You get one warning. This is that warning.



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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: demiu5]
    #6000513 - 08/27/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I hope we do not go to war with Iran. I see the US atangonizing Iran a lot. Irans actions may apear hostile, but when you look at the context, i think a reasonable person can understand the action and reaction.

Everything is very escalated, and hopefully it does not boil over. Iran is now bordered by two countries the US (supposedly) has control over.

The only weapon Iran has, that we don't have 50000 of, is the fastest underwater missile(torpedo? for some reason, i don't think its called a torpedo) This missile travels at something like 200mph, obviously faster than any ship could out run.

I hope we have though of a counter measure, but I'm sure we wont show that ACE right now.

Any and every other offensive weapon they have is but a drop in our bucket. So what incentive do they have to launch a war? They can kill 10000 of our troops right now, tonight, no doubt. But they don't. Why?

As far as China, China is looking for Oil everywhere, they may believe Iran is unstable, but i would consider anyone on our shit list as 'unstable' If China does not like Iran, it is about religious views (and a lack there of) not because Iran test fires nine short & intermediat missiles in the desert.

Does the UN get bent out of shape when we test our missiles on our land?
Can missiles ever be used for 'good'?


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6000608 - 08/27/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think that the US should fly a plane over Iran and drop downforpot without a parachute on top of them. That might send the right message...


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #6000622 - 08/27/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

DirtMcgirt said:
I think that the US should fly a plane over Iran and drop downforpot without a parachute on top of them. That might send the right message...




Im' sure you would like that. You're like the people that didn't do anything to stop Hitler and then after the war started there was still opposition to the war.

I love this coutry and all it has given me. So sorry, I will kill for my way of life but I guess you would rather be raped.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6000810 - 08/27/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck the draft. There is no sense in going to war in the Middle East, and there certainly is no reason within the point of view that "I will go to war for my country because I love my country and want it to be #1". :wtf:

I could care less about the agenda of the administration of this country, and I certainly will not put my life on the line by participating in its military for such an agenda. I would rather take a bullet in the head as the result of some fucked up agenda than to be a pawn of such an agenda.

Kill me if you must, but I will not kill for you. :shrug:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6000884 - 08/27/06 06:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I could not agree more, although I currently live in England and they have not drafted us since WW2. I was shocked when I lived in America by that 'selective service' thing you need to get financial aid in college. I do not care about the machinations of corrupt and sociopathic politicians, I would rather die in my own home fighting those that would send me to war than in some far off land fighting other poor people. You want to fight, go ahead it is nothing to do with me or my life.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6000920 - 08/27/06 07:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It seems as though this is the case with most young men here in America. I personally would not go unless my home was threatened. I love my country, but as many have said already...I am not going to kill myself over someones personality conflicts, or monetary interests.

I will defend my country if it is threatened, to protect my family...but if there is a draft, you wont see me going. I think this is the same way a good majority of the youth feel today, and while 1 person would be hard to draft dodge, when its massive amounts of people with backing of their families and friends...it would be really hard to enforce it.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6001076 - 08/27/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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You're like the people that didn't do anything to stop Hitler and then after the war started there was still opposition to the war.




The only countries in this situation invading other countries is the US and Israel.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6001103 - 08/27/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Andy21 said:
I could not agree more, although I currently live in England and they have not drafted us since WW2. I was shocked when I lived in America by that 'selective service' thing you need to get financial aid in college.




Actually, you can be arrested and imprisoned if you do not fill out the selective service card. It's not just for financial aid.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: demiu5]
    #6001112 - 08/27/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is lunacy, someone should ask Bush if America's much vaunted freedom extends to the freedom not to become a murderer.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6001238 - 08/27/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is lunacy, someone should ask Bush if America's much vaunted freedom extends to the freedom not to become a murderer.

...because as we are all aware, the selective service act was bush's idea, he has the power to repeal it any time he wants, and he has reactivated the draft.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: wilshire]
    #6001256 - 08/27/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I never said it was his idea, I posed a hypothetical question. Would an executive order not be sufficient to kill such a program? At least for one presidential term.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6001359 - 08/27/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i'm not a fan of conscription, and it makes me a little quesy when i hear bush talk of freedom and liberty. i think it's better to keep criticisms as honest and relevent as possible. no one is getting drafted and no one has since the early 70's. the selective service act has been around for 66 years. an executive order cannot explicitly negate an act of congress. that's called a veto, and it's too late for bush to veto the selective service act, passed by congress in 1940, so he has no power over that.

sometimes when i'm searching for torrents over at torrentspy, i see some of the articles and commentary they have posted from shoutwire. most of the political stuff has devolved into the most intellectually void shit throwing fests because there is no one there keeping things honest and relevent, even if it requires playing devil's advocate from time to time. i'm very glad that the shroomery's PAL forum has people on both sides of most issues to keep people from getting sloppy.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: wilshire]
    #6001375 - 08/27/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would agree, I do start huffing and puffing as soon as a draft is brought up. It is such an alien concept to my European brain.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6001382 - 08/27/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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It is such an alien concept to my European brain.




I was under the impression that some European countries required a minimum amount of service in the state's military. :shocked:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6001420 - 08/27/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think Denmark still does, France, Belgium and the Netherlands stopped about 10 years ago. Portugal, Spain and Italy stopped in the last few years. England stopped national military service in the 60's. EDIT Wow I did actualy research and it turns out national service is widespread in mainland Europe. Germany, Greece, Sweden, Norway, Finland Austria all practice it. You learn something every day. :grin:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6001422 - 08/27/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think Greece does.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Andy21]
    #6001424 - 08/27/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Norway still does, the last that I was aware. Of course, Norway isn't exactly "European". :wink:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6001435 - 08/27/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ill correct myself, English Brain.  :wink:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6001940 - 08/27/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Im' sure you would like that. You're like the people that didn't do anything to stop Hitler and then after the war started there was still opposition to the war.





No I'm not. Stop saying that. WW2 and this conflict draw few parallels. If you can't bring this conflict into its individual context you have no right thinking about it.

I'm like the people who realize that invading and controlling a country of 70 million people with no sympathy for the US and ESPECIALLY isreal is impossible. That would be a sure way to get a nuclear weapon set off somewhere either over in the ME or stateside.

There is no reason to invade Iran even if they get a hold of a Nuke (they already do anyway, IMO). THey will not use it unless somebody invades. Thats common sense. Any country thatwants to survive doesn't go shooting off nukes at other nuclear states. There is no way the US and Israel could invade...sure, we could blow up everything there and leave but then nobody will support us, Iraq will get even worse (shiites), and we, the US, will get stuck with our most useless of allies, Israel.


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I love this coutry and all it has given me. So sorry, I will kill for my way of life but I guess you would rather be raped.





I will kill for it too. I already suggested we toss people with your outlook off planes. Seems like a start at least. Iran does not threaten our way of life.....

But you and the draft do! Step outside your gated community and look at the country around you. A draft would tear it in half. Nobody will win.

The only raping being done is what your ideology is doing to your logic.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #6002013 - 08/27/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Im' sure you would like that. You're like the people that didn't do anything to stop Hitler and then after the war started there was still opposition to the war.





No I'm not. Stop saying that. WW2 and this conflict draw few parallels. If you can't bring this conflict into its individual context you have no right thinking about it.

I'm like the people who realize that invading and controlling a country of 70 million people with no sympathy for the US and ESPECIALLY isreal is impossible. That would be a sure way to get a nuclear weapon set off somewhere either over in the ME or stateside.

There is no reason to invade Iran even if they get a hold of a Nuke (they already do anyway, IMO). THey will not use it unless somebody invades. Thats common sense. Any country thatwants to survive doesn't go shooting off nukes at other nuclear states. There is no way the US and Israel could invade...sure, we could blow up everything there and leave but then nobody will support us, Iraq will get even worse (shiites), and we, the US, will get stuck with our most useless of allies, Israel.


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I love this coutry and all it has given me. So sorry, I will kill for my way of life but I guess you would rather be raped.





I will kill for it too. I already suggested we toss people with your outlook off planes. Seems like a start at least. Iran does not threaten our way of life.....

But you and the draft do! Step outside your gated community and look at the country around you. A draft would tear it in half. Nobody will win.

The only raping being done is what your ideology is doing to your logic.




Israel is a useless ally? Yea, their military sure does suck, the worst in the world.

People like you will never defend this country and make sure it stays number one. You will run and hide and hope everyone finds peace and happiness.

Toss people like me out of airplanes? People like me are the reason we kicked the ever loving shit out of the mexicans and took their land so that americans can live on it. People like you need to go live in a country that is raped by other countries if you don't like being number 1.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6002077 - 08/27/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Toss people like me out of airplanes? People like me are the reason we kicked the ever loving shit out of the mexicans and took their land so that americans can live on it. People like you need to go live in a country that is raped by other countries if you don't like being number 1.




So wait, let me get this straight: You have no problems taking land from other humans, other brothers...our exact same species, just so we can continue to grow just a little bit more than we already didn't need to?

I think America being "#1" is debatable. It all depends on how you look at it and what considers making a country number one.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: demiu5]
    #6002116 - 08/27/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Guys can we stay on topic please. If you want to make a moral thread regarding what your talking about. The topic of this thread should stick to the title.

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    #6002127 - 08/27/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I have no problem with doing exactly that.

What's the definition of a number #1 country? Power, wealth, influence, military, economy, education. Now education is currently a problem in the USA, we have a lot of retards that don't know what is going on in the world.


Are you also telling me that other species don't fight amongst themselves? Let me guess, you are gonna say that we are more advanced than other species? Right? Yea, we are and for all of human history we have continued to kill eachother and other species. We might build a skyscraper, send a man to the moon but we have always maintained our instinct to survive and make we sure we are number 1.

By the way, I am not saying that the world should be like this, I AM SHOWING HOW IT IS. I wish the world was peaceful 24/7. I wish everyone was friends with eachother, I wish there was no such thing as murder, rape, pillage, suicide, etc etc. I am living in reality, are you?


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    #6002133 - 08/27/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Red, I share your concern......however we disagree on political issues....this my friend, is turning out some revelations.....whats that saying go...????... the Chinese Proverbs about living in interesting times??????????




We may disagree on political issues but i know one thing we can agree on is the Greatness of our country... Maybe not politically but the people and the beauty of the land and countryside.

It brings a tear to my eye to see this great land being ran into the dirt.

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    #6002204 - 08/27/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ive been discovering a lot of wierd stuff its really not adding up.

Apparently Israeli and Coalition troops have been training Kurdish operatives to attack Iran. Sounds like Israel has been planting moles in Iraqi politics especially the Kurds. Their is a lot of high level Iraqi politicians that are jewish and have changed their names.

Strange things are happening and i cant put my finger on it at all.

Ive been hearing Mara Salvatrucha have been smuggling in weapons and sleeper cells consisting of Hezbollah,Iranian intelligence,and Al Qaeda and other possible subversives.

Islamic radicals have set up recruitment offices in major prisons and are allying themselves with local gangs. Mainly organizations out of the Chicago syndicate... The peoples nation or the Folk Nation. Militant black gangs.

Iran is defintely going to sabotage the oil systems and they have stopped buying foreign weapons systems and are now producing their own. Most of them very high tech that consist of Solid Rocket fuel missiles with radar jamming and radio frequency guided munitions. Surface to sea missiles,High tech radar jamming RPGs,and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles that have been tested out by Hezbollah. Also unlimited amounts of Fajr-3s and NK copies of the Nodong 1 and 2... The Shahab 1-5.

Ive been told by my friend who happens to be very high level in Marine Counter-Terrorism that right now they are spending a lot of time gathering intelligence on Irans Enrichment facilities. Some of these facilites were built in the 1950s for the Shah of Iran by USA.CIA has been in cooperation with the Israeli Mossad on finding the facilities.

China's export economy will likely collapse by the sabotage of oil from the Persian gulf which could possibly collapse their economy. For China to protect this they have threatened Military Action against the USA. Israel will defenitely be involved in this mess as well.

Venezuela also has some shit planned and their has been a lot of elbow rubbing with Iranian and Hezbollah militants showing his solidarity of with Islam. Also he has been purchasing aircraft from China and Iran and Attack Helicopters. He defenitely has shit planned.

Possibly their could be Iraqi backlash by militant cleric Moqtada al Sadr and he (i think) could likely stage a uprising.

Iranian Frogmen will also sabotage every Oil Refinery in the Persian gulf and will likely launch attacks against oil rich nations like Qatar and Kuwait which are in close proximity. This could unleash devestating effects.

I honestly dont think this will boil over and I think we are on a crash course with Militant Islam.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #6002276 - 08/27/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Not for nothing Red, and I certainly agree with you about the Islamist threat, but you seem to be a tad alarmist (better than pollyannaish but still not productive to rational decision making). You have these mystical sources here and an utterly nonsensical source in another thread about Turks bombing Iraq. What's the deal? Who are you talking to? Inquiring minds want to know.

I am not worried about the Iranian threat in any kind of existential way. They are stupid and will overstep and we will crush them. The French and UN will whine but they haven't a big enough clit to matter and keep impeaching themselves anyway (see this for another beautiful example of UN fecklessness, if not outright criminality
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"DURING THE RECENT month-long war between Hezbollah and Israel, U.N. "peacekeeping" forces made a startling contribution: They openly published daily real-time intelligence, of obvious usefulness to Hezbollah, on the location, equipment, and force structure of Israeli troops in Lebanon.")


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    #6002278 - 08/27/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh def. We have been on a crash course with militant Islam for a long ass time. People just to need to realize this and get ready for a nasty war.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6002284 - 08/27/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's not going to be that nasty for us. Unless you think that croissants make effective missiles when the frogs whine about how mean we are


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6002298 - 08/27/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I wasn't aware you wanted to live in Iran so badly.

Since you refuse to view the current situation without bringing up pointless history with nothing to do with it, try this analogy on for size. People like you are like the Japanese who bombed pearl harbor and in doing so sealed the doom of their empire. They felt threatened and lashed out without thinking of the repercussions.

You want to run into Iran guns blazing right now. Thats a terrible idea. Iran has allies, Iran has oil, Iran has nukes. Sit still a minute and watch if your so weary of Iran. No good fighter starts swinging without sizing up their opponent. They probably didn't have a seminar on that during your Birthright:Israel trip. I don't want to wait for peace and happiness, I'm not naive. I just don't want to create more problems than there needs to be.


I'm telling you if You were in control of the US the empire and the 1# status, for whatever thats worth, would be down the toilet in a decade. We would starve for oil and allies and empathy. We would become so hated our security situation would be out of control.



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Israel is a useless ally? Yea, their military sure does suck, the worst in the world.




Fuck Israel's military. The US doesn't need it, we paid for half of it anyway. Their military is a baseball bat to our .44 mag. The military Israel offers is far exceeded by the enemies that come along with it. Name once in Israel's history where their military has ever been invaluable to the US in any way. Who cares if their military is good?


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6002301 - 08/27/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do you have any idea how fucking big Iran is? It'll make Iraq look like a cakewalk. Unless of course we just nuke them, in which case we'll have the rest of the Arab world united against us.


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    #6002320 - 08/27/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I wasn't aware you wanted to live in Iran so badly.

Since you refuse to view the current situation without bringing up pointless history with nothing to do with it, try this analogy on for size.




And that is why you are illogical, because you don't know anything about history.

I don't want to live in Iran, I want their oil, their resources, I want them to do what America tells them to do.

Now move to a country that doesn't start wars and doesn't use others for its own advantage.

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Do you have any idea how fucking big Iran is? It'll make Iraq look like a cakewalk. Unless of course we just nuke them, in which case we'll have the rest of the Arab world united against us.




We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams. And fuck the rest of the arab world. The Sunnis hate the Shia and have been slaughtering eachother little cattle for a long long time. Not to mention Kuwait and Saudi Emirates only care about money and they could give a rats ass wat the fundamenalists want. We just gotta make sure that we keep those Muslims on our side and thinking "money money money and more money."


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    #6002347 - 08/27/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

We will have to buy their oil, we can't take it. The rest of the world won't let us b/c they want it too. We still haven't seen a drop or Iraqi oil, have we? Iran will be worse. You idea that one can walk into IRan , blow every thing up, start pumping oil, and start giving orders is a fantasy. It will and can not ever happen especially with that whole Iraq mess next door.

All that moeny spent on not capturing IRan would be better used building our infrastructure and preparing for the inevitable disappearance of cheap oil. Than we can forget about the whole ME if we want.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6002388 - 08/27/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams.

Defeating Iran's military wouldn't be much of a challenge, but occupation of Iran would be damn near impossible. It's far far to large geographically and much more urbanized than Iraq.

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    #6002434 - 08/27/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams.

Defeating Iran's military wouldn't be much of a challenge, but occupation of Iran would be damn near impossible. It's far far to large geographically and much more urbanized than Iraq.




Actually I think we can but first we need to make sure that we have the right people planning out the war. Rumsfeld needs to be fired for being a moron thinking he knows how to conduct war. Him and Bush should have listened to the general's who actually know how to wage war and win. The current administration has good goals but they don't really plan anything out and don't let the experts make decisions.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6002480 - 08/27/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.


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    #6002544 - 08/27/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, that'll help our national security  :rolleyes:

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    #6002620 - 08/27/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.




You can believe what ever you want Zappa, and as simplistic as you put it... Yea lets just go in with a big army and destroy them. Maybe you should quit your job and join the military it sounds like you know exactly what to do.

But you know thats alright you can always remember exactly what i said you can either take it with salt or you can listen intently. Either way i think you made up your mind concerning how you digest your media... Absolutely dumbed down.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6002714 - 08/27/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't want to live in Iran, I want their oil, their resources, I want them to do what America tells them to do.




Um, ok. I guess you're one of the many in this country that think everyone would be better off if we took control of the world, huh? They have every right to be their own country, and we have no right to be in control of them. Also, what about their wants?

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Now move to a country that doesn't start wars and doesn't use others for its own advantage.




Well, see, the problem with that is it takes time to build up the funds to make that move; not to mention Visas, and trying to establish citizenship in the almost-completely bureaucratic world we live in today. Time is something we are running out of. Otherwise, I'd be gone as soon as the next plane boards.


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    #6002913 - 08/27/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.




Actually that might in Iran considering that the young generations are not that pleased with Iran's religious rulers who are pushing bullshit laws. If I remember correctly there were actually riots in Iran a couple of years ago.

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Well, see, the problem with that is it takes time to build up the funds to make that move; not to mention Visas, and trying to establish citizenship in the almost-completely bureaucratic world we live in today. Time is something we are running out of. Otherwise, I'd be gone as soon as the next plane boards.




Yes, it is extemely hard to become a citizen in other countries. USA is one of the few countries that has lax immigration and naturalization laws. This country has been known to attract a lot of immigrants even after the colonization and domination of its native population by the first Europeans.


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    #6003078 - 08/27/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades.

Eh, what? When was the last time Persians ever fought eachother? :lol:

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    #6003154 - 08/27/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the young generations are not that pleased with Iran's religious rulers who are pushing bullshit laws.

I think a lot of the country was sad to see Rafsanjani lose to that nut they have now. :frown:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6003226 - 08/27/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams.

Defeating Iran's military wouldn't be much of a challenge, but occupation of Iran would be damn near impossible. It's far far to large geographically and much more urbanized than Iraq.




Actually I think we can but first we need to make sure that we have the right people planning out the war. Rumsfeld needs to be fired for being a moron thinking he knows how to conduct war. Him and Bush should have listened to the general's who actually know how to wage war and win. The current administration has good goals but they don't really plan anything out and don't let the experts make decisions.




How about instead of that, we attack and destroy Israel, and instantly become allies of the entire Arab world.  :smirk:


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    #6003287 - 08/27/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The arabs didn't start attacking us for support Israel. They started to attack us when started putting US troops on Muslim soil.

Also a lot of US troops would refuse to attack Israel because it is one of the few countries that don't want Americans dead. Not to mention a large number of Israelies are Americans.


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    #6003786 - 08/28/06 02:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

But, you have to admit.  If the US all of a sudden leveled every city in Israel, the Muslim wolrd wouldn't know what to think.  You'd think the US would get a few free passes. 

But then again the last thing the US needs is a bunch of jew terrorists mad at them.  Not that the israelis would ever resort to terrorism!:hook:


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    #6003809 - 08/28/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Clip #1245 on Memri Tv kind of supports the petrodollar theory of the invasion of Iraq. An alliance of poorer countries refusing to use the US dollar in oil transactions, forcing the US into a new depression.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6003814 - 08/28/06 03:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Actually that is my plan if I fuck up in college or right after college. I love this country and will kill for it to make sure it stays number 1.




If you loved your country you'd be concerned with making it good, not #1. Those tend to be 2 different goals with 2 opposite results.

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    #6003855 - 08/28/06 04:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you say japanese suicidals felt threatened so they lashed out?

looks like you need a history lesson on WW2....japan was INVADING countries whilst the world was at war in europe,think that can sink in just enough?

also you say if the US builds infrastruture and concentrates on new fuel or whatever that then the world can forget the ME?
like the world forgot north korea?

is firing missiles and threatening the free world ''lashing out because they feel threatened?


i'm against the draft only because i have kids and don't trust government authorities, but some people like you should be drafted because schooling,especially history lessons don't work for some so the only real hope for people like you is the hard way...conscription :thumbup:


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    #6003889 - 08/28/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.




And what factions would be fighting this civil war? Iran is non-Arab and 95% Shi'ite. Not exactly a recipe for sectarian disaster.


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    #6003897 - 08/28/06 06:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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The arabs didn't start attacking us for support Israel. They started to attack us when started putting US troops on Muslim soil.

Also a lot of US troops would refuse to attack Israel because it is one of the few countries that don't want Americans dead. Not to mention a large number of Israelies are Americans.




Arab anti-Americanism has two sources, support for Israel and support for despotic post-colonial Muslim regimes (which often result in American troops stationed on Muslim land), and more recently a third source, the invasion of Muslim countries regardless of the imcumbant regime. Anti-Americanism among Arabs goes back to the 1950's when the non-stop military aid packages began buffing up the IDF.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Basilides]
    #6004132 - 08/28/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, Downforpot can't get it through his head that the USA support for Israel is one of the main factors for Arab hostilities.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Basilides]
    #6004245 - 08/28/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.




And what factions would be fighting this civil war? Iran is non-Arab and 95% Shi'ite. Not exactly a recipe for sectarian disaster.




I don't have any particular factions in mind, but they will always arise in a void. The US almost collapsed several times right after the Revolution and it was pretty homogenous. Just generic thugs scrambling for power until one prevails. Never fails.

I repeat, destroying their army will be no problem. Occupying Iran would be, but we don't have to do that and it would be a mistake to try.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6004283 - 08/28/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
Yeah, Downforpot can't get it through his head that the USA support for Israel is one of the main factors for Arab hostilities.




I am not aware that the US has ever put one soldier on the ground or fired a single bit of ordinance of any kind to support Israel. The US, like most civilized nations, recognizes Israel's right to exist and defend itself. Some fools think they sometimes overstep in their own defense but the world was also quite divided over the Nazi threat in 1938 as well. Israel does not have the luxury of erring on the side of appeasement. One false step and they are all dead. Some Muslim governments have signed on to the notion that Israel is a legitimate state and there has been peace with them (Egypt, Jordan, etc.) There will be no peace with any entity that denies Israel it's right to existence, nor should there be. It is a done deal. Get over it. "You can't always get what you want......." You know the rest.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6004308 - 08/28/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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alpharedecho said:
Yeah, Downforpot can't get it through his head that the USA support for Israel is one of the main factors for Arab hostilities.




I am not aware that the US has ever put one soldier on the ground or fired a single bit of  ordinance of any kind to support Israel.  The US, like most civilized nations, recognizes Israel's right to exist and defend itself.  Some fools think they sometimes overstep in their own defense but the world was also quite divided over the Nazi threat in 1938 as well.  Israel does not have the luxury of erring on the side of appeasement.  One false step and they are all dead.  Some Muslim governments have signed on to the notion that Israel is a legitimate state and there has been peace with them (Egypt, Jordan, etc.)  There will be no peace with any entity that denies Israel it's right to existence, nor should there be.  It is a done deal.  Get over it.  "You can't always get what you want......."  You know the rest.




Where did I state that the US fired weapons, or sent troop for Israel? Where? I would argue that the war in Iraq is mainly due to Israel interests, but that's for another thread.

There are other ways to support you know, financially, technologically, etc. The USA has given Isreal state of the art weapons(nukes  :shocked:), all the money it could ever need, and tons of weapons. Not to mention the countless American veto's with regards to UN resolutions against Israel. Is that not support?

Why are the Nazi's brought up in almost every post regarding Israel. If it weren't for the Nazi's there would be no Israel. Of course this is not to say the Nazi's were a good thing, but my god, get over it already.

All I am saying is that the USA owes NO loyalty to Israel. But due to lobby groups such as AIPAC, the USA is sacrificing it's own security for the security of Israel. That is treason, no matter how you slice it.

Don't even try to argue that the USA is not giving up its security for Israels, because anyone with a brain can come to this simple conclusion. Muslims dislike the USA for their support of Israel, and their occupation of their lands(which is also a direct result of Israel IMO).


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: quiver]
    #6004311 - 08/28/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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you say japanese suicidals felt threatened so they lashed out?
Japan did feel threated by the US actions in Asia
looks like you need a history lesson on WW2....japan was INVADING countries whilst the world was at war in europe,think that can sink in just enough?
I'm not trying to argue this point, just point out that the Japanese WERE TOLD that these were there lands anyway, They were  liberating them from the US, saving there Asian brethren.  The Japanese textbooks still refuse to accept there actions in WW2, But the people WERE TOLD they were doing good work
also you say if the US builds infrastruture and concentrates on new fuel or whatever that then the world can forget the ME?
like the world forgot north korea?
I think we agree, Isolationism is not a good foreign policy,  If Kim Jong Ill was not 'god incarnate' don't you think it would be easier for him to make friends.  It sounds funny, but i am serious, the guy is a nut job.  The only question is, was he a nut job because of the isolation, or is it because of the isolation that he is a nut job(He thinks he is god, so i blame most of his isolation on himself)
is firing missiles and threatening the free world ''lashing out because they feel threatened?
That question can be posed just as easily to the US as it can Iran, China, N Korea, anybody testing offensive missiles

i'm against the draft only because i have kids and don't trust government authorities, but some people like you should be drafted because schooling,especially history lessons don't work for some so the only real hope for people like you is the hard way...conscription
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    #6004404 - 08/28/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:
maybe not throw him,gently tying him to the tracks would do ie cannon fodder can be useful you know

but the us can feed itself,i see nothing wrong with testing/firing missiles for defense if you have something to lose,it's how we get rid of duds and flaws but when a country is starving and just wants weapons then thats a different story,that tells me theyre black hearted/evil/envious/jealous and plain old nasty...why can't you see that too?

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6004564 - 08/28/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:

Where did I state that the US fired weapons, or sent troop for Israel? Where? I would argue that the war in Iraq is mainly due to Israel interests, but that's for another thread.




You could argue that but you would be wrong.  The war in Iraq is an extension of the first gulf war which was necessitated by Hussein's invasion of Kuwait and threat to Saudi Arabia, who were clearly next given Saddam's penchant for adventurism.  That was the zeitgeist of the time.  Don't forget, Israel was begged to stay out of it despite the asshole's scud missile barrage, which was designed to drag them in and thus bring in other Arab states on his side.  No, Israel had nothing to do with Gulf War 1.  Or 2.
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There are other ways to support you know, financially, technologically, etc. The USA has given Isreal state of the art weapons(nukes  :shocked:), all the money it could ever need, and tons of weapons. Not to mention the countless American veto's with regards to UN resolutions against Israel. Is that not support?




There certainly are other ways to support Israel, although you now have overstepped with the notion that Israel was given nukes.  Don't forget that many, many of our top nuke scientists were and are still Jews.  They are one of the most highly educated societies in the world and the technology flow between the US and Israel is not at all one way.  Like it is with the cave dwellers.  And vetoing stupid resolutions designed to emasculate Israel's ability to defend itself is not wrong.
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Why are the Nazi's brought up in almost every post regarding Israel. If it weren't for the Nazi's there would be no Israel. Of course this is not to say the Nazi's were a good thing, but my god, get over it already.




Perhaps I should make it clearer that the Nazi threat was not just against Jews but against all of the world.  My point here is about appeasement and paying bribes in the face of aggression, which was the state of Europe pre WW2.  IT DOESN'T WORK.  That's all.
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All I am saying is that the USA owes NO loyalty to Israel. But due to lobby groups such as AIPAC, the USA is sacrificing it's own security for the security of Israel. That is treason, no matter how you slice it.




Loyalty, shmoyalty, that is not what it is about.  As far as sacrificing security, I disagree and so does most of the people who run foreign policy in the country.  For historical perspective you need to remember the realities of the cold war, which included aggressive Soviet efforts to control the mid-east.  This was not a fiction and the world would be a much worse place had they been able to act freely there.  Israel gave us a toehold, as did the Shah.  No, it was not a totally altruistic act for us to assist Israel, nor is it today.
You can disagree all you want but it amounts to nothing and the treason nonsense is just that, nonsense.  Jonathan Pollard committed treason and is in prison.  The duly elected representatives of the USA have decided, rightly so, that it is in our interests to support Israel.  That is not treason by any definition.  If you were to take action to subvert that policy YOU would be guilty of treason.  If you think AIPAC is so powerful that it can coopt policy you need to lay off the 'shrooms.  They have a strong lobby and so do the Arabs (CAIR, ever heard of them?).
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Don't even try to argue that the USA is not giving up its security for Israels, because anyone with a brain can come to this simple conclusion. Muslims dislike the USA for their support of Israel, and their occupation of their lands(which is also a direct result of Israel IMO).




I just did, and quite effectively.  You never, ever cave in to thugs.
Jimmy "the Cunt" Carter should have blown the living shit out of Iran when they attacked our embassy and took our people hostage.  That was an act of war and deserved an appropriate response.  Imagine how many lives would have been saved if we had had a spine then. 
You also keep forgetting that every single soldier we had in the mideast prior to 2003 was at the invitation of the governments of those nations.  INVITED.  By the Arab's own governments.  Every single one.  All. "But the street doesn't want us there!"  What street?  And where did this mystical street gain the force of sovereignty?  Answer, they didn't.  Any nation that allows a small cadre of murderous thugs to coopt it's policy, without an effort to curtail it, is illegitimate.  SA tries.  Jordan tries.  Lebanon didn't.

Islam is an immature religion.  They are where Christianity was during the Spanish Inquisition with their gunpoint conversions.  They will grow out of this or they will be totally subjugated by their own extremist morons and doomed to a near stone age life


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6004619 - 08/28/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The USS liberty was an act of war, I wonder why we didn't blow Israel the fuck up.

I know many of the nuclear scientists were Jews, but would have gotten nowhere with out our resources/underlying technology. Israel would not have nukes today if the United States(AIPAC) didn't want them to.

I don't mind Israel doing what they have to do to survive, it is understandable. I think they need to do it on their own, they are more than capable. With the USA giving them so much aid and weapons, it doesn't help relations with the Arab nations.

My point is let Israel handle their own problems. I am curious, did Israel send any troops to Afghanistan or Iraq to be part of the coalitions?

So you think supporting Israel enhances USA security around the world? If so, you are in denial, as it clearly hurts it.


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6005260 - 08/28/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
The USS liberty was an act of war, I wonder why we didn't blow Israel the fuck up.

I know many of the nuclear scientists were Jews, but would have gotten nowhere with out our resources/underlying technology. Israel would not have nukes today if the United States(AIPAC) didn't want them to.

I don't mind Israel doing what they have to do to survive, it is understandable. I think they need to do it on their own, they are more than capable. With the USA giving them so much aid and weapons, it doesn't help relations with the Arab nations.

My point is let Israel handle their own problems. I am curious, did Israel send any troops to Afghanistan or Iraq to be part of the coalitions?

So you think supporting Israel enhances USA security around the world? If so, you are in denial, as it clearly hurts it.




Again, the attack on USS Liberty was a friendly fire incident. I already gave you examples of multiple friendly fire incidents which were blown out of proportion by conspiracy theorists but you didn't reply to my examples.

Here are the posts :

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5996964#Post5996964

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5996861#Post5996861

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5996562#Post5996562


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6005308 - 08/28/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods


You sure about that? After all the attack did last for hours and the American Flag was flying high for all to see. 3 unmarked Israeli Mirage 3s dropped conventional munitions and napalm on the Liberty as well as torpedo boats.

The commander of the boat and everone on it was told "Not to tell anyone about this incident or they would be killed" and they were honored the Congressional Medal of Honor in secret.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6005428 - 08/28/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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downforpot said:
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alpharedecho said:
The USS liberty was an act of war, I wonder why we didn't blow Israel the fuck up.

I know many of the nuclear scientists were Jews, but would have gotten nowhere with out our resources/underlying technology. Israel would not have nukes today if the United States(AIPAC) didn't want them to.

I don't mind Israel doing what they have to do to survive, it is understandable. I think they need to do it on their own, they are more than capable. With the USA giving them so much aid and weapons, it doesn't help relations with the Arab nations.

My point is let Israel handle their own problems. I am curious, did Israel send any troops to Afghanistan or Iraq to be part of the coalitions?

So you think supporting Israel enhances USA security around the world? If so, you are in denial, as it clearly hurts it.




Again, the attack on USS Liberty was a friendly fire incident. I already gave you examples of multiple friendly fire incidents which were blown out of proportion by conspiracy theorists but you didn't reply to my examples.

Here are the posts :

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5996964#Post5996964

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5996861#Post5996861

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5996562#Post5996562




For the last time, showing other instances of friendly fire, does not make the USS Liberty an incident of friendly fire. Look at the events around the USS Liberty, not other events that had nothing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6005820 - 08/28/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't have any particular factions in mind, but they will always arise in a void. The US almost collapsed several times right after the Revolution and it was pretty homogenous. Just generic thugs scrambling for power until one prevails. Never fails.

Instead of destabilizing Iran and letting a group of thugs rise to power, why not begin serious talks with Iran, open trade, and wait for the reformists to win the next election? The only reason I can fathom as to why Mr. Nutter got elected is because Iranians are tired of taking shit from the West. Maybe if we stop shooting down their commercial airliners they'll lighten up a bit. :lol: We probably already scored some brownie points for taking out the Taliban and Saddam.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6005830 - 08/28/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The Italian Agent was killed because of an accident during WAR TIME. Pat Tillman was killed on accident during WAR TIME. The sailors on the USS Liberty were killed on accident during WAR TIME.

You know what all three have in common? They all occured during a war and all were blown out of proportion by conspiracy theorists who have nothing better to do.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6007006 - 08/29/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, your not getting this, so I will go step by step for you.

-AMERICAN vessel, with High flying American Flagand English writing on the hull sits in INTERNATIONAL WATERS.

-Israel is aware of this vessel the DAY BEFORE and they know it is American.

-Israel sends the ONLY 3 unmarked airplanes in its air force to attack.

-The attack lasts hours and hours.

-Then, Israel sends help after bombing a ship they knew to be American, for hours.

Now, what is more likely? Israel accidentally bombed an American ship, which they knew to be American, for hours, which was in international waters.

OR they bombed it on purpose, under a false flag operation, trying to blame Egypt for it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm  :rolleyes:


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6007876 - 08/29/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do you think you can reply to my post, with out bringing up actual friendly fire incidents that have nothing to do with what we are discussing?


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6007988 - 08/29/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

alpharedecho said:
Okay, your not getting this, so I will go step by step for you.

-AMERICAN vessel, with High flying American Flagand English writing on the hull sits in INTERNATIONAL WATERS.

-Israel is aware of this vessel the DAY BEFORE and they know it is American.

-Israel sends the ONLY 3 unmarked airplanes in its air force to attack.

-The attack lasts hours and hours.

-Then, Israel sends help after bombing a ship they knew to be American, for hours.

Now, what is more likely? Israel accidentally bombed an American ship, which they knew to be American, for hours, which was in international waters.

OR they bombed it on purpose, under a false flag operation, trying to blame Egypt for it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm  :rolleyes:




Or they were trying to stop the US from spying on there actions in Egypt.  Where they filled mass graves with Egyptians.
Irsael has paid resitution for these mass-graves.  Why would they pay, if it wasn't there fault?


USS Liberty was a spy ship.  Traveling too slow to be considered an Egyptian ship at war.

Israel claims the ship was moving at 30 knots, then they say 28 knots, well the Liberty could not even travel that fast.  I think with engines running overdrive they could reach 25 Knots. Top regular speed was 21 Knots.

Maybe the English spelling was in cursive, making it look Arabic, but i REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY doubt that!

It was friendly fire, but it was on purpose.  Even When LBJ and Mcnamara found out, they called back rescue operations.  They called back two separate air sorties, probably to not embarrass the Israelis, hopefully not for any other sinister reasons.

No one can tell me, that Israeli ships could get close enough to fire machine guns, but not close enought to see our RED WHITE & BLUE. 

Do you think we used a 3'X 5' flag?  I'm guessing we use BIG FUCKING FLAGS on our Naval Ships.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6008803 - 08/29/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you think you can reply to my post, with out bringing up actual friendly fire incidents that have nothing to do with what we are discussing?




Why should I even discuss a conspiracy theory with you? Do people like discussing conspiracy theories with nutjobs that made all those 9/11 rumours? They are nutjobs, that is why no1 ever takes them seriously except other nutjobs.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6008882 - 08/29/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you.

You know, its pretty sad when you can't prove a "nut job" wrong.


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6008994 - 08/29/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly, that is why people don't listen to people like Ann Coulter. Even Republicans don't take her seriously because she is a nutjob.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6009012 - 08/29/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You can't prove me wrong, so your point of view is the correct one?

Do you know how debates work?

I don't give a shit about Ann colter, we are not discussing her, you ALWAYS try and change the subject, it's sad.

Edited by alpharedecho (08/29/06 04:51 PM)

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6009043 - 08/29/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ann coulter doesnt believe what she says herself, Shes is just a giant conartist selling people ridiculous ideas. You must be a retard if anyone buys her books and takes it serious.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6009253 - 08/29/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

alpharedecho said:
I am in agreement, I am worried what China and Russia will do once things get under way.




I think China is too wise to do anything to us.. anything more than supplying our enemy with arms. Their enonomy is BOOMING now more than ever and they wouldn't want to fuck that up...

Although I'll admit... on 9/11.. I was sleeping on my friend's couch skipping my business class... when he came back from college early around 9:30am and kicked me to wake me up yelling "Dude AMerica is under attack". Waking up suddenly from sleep hearing this, the first thing I thought it "Those fucking Chinese! They're invading us for real!!!".

heh.

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6009324 - 08/29/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

alpharedecho said:
You can't prove me wrong, so your point of view is the correct one?

Do you know how debates work?

I don't give a shit about Ann colter, we are not discussing her, you ALWAYS try and change the subject, it's sad.




No, I was reffering to another nutjob that spews made up bullshit that no one believes.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
    #6009456 - 08/29/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

...I'll consider this debate closed then. Thanks for playing.


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: BrAiN]
    #6011427 - 08/30/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

BrAiN said:


Although I'll admit... on 9/11.. I was sleeping on my friend's couch skipping my business class... when he came back from college early around 9:30am and kicked me to wake me up yelling "Dude AMerica is under attack". Waking up suddenly from sleep hearing this, the first thing I thought it "Those fucking Chinese! They're invading us for real!!!".

heh.




Did you really? I was listening to Warner Wolf on the radio reporting live from his apartment and as soon as the second plane hit I knew it was AlQ


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6011525 - 08/30/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I didn't have a clue as to what it was, all I remember when watching those buildings fall over and over again on the replays was "Those buildings should not be falling down like that".

I was 16 at the time, I am into science and physics very much, even since I was younger, and did not understand why those buildings fell in that manner.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6011533 - 08/30/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You were an expert structural engineer at sixteen?


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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6011555 - 08/30/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No I wasn't, I just remember thinking it didn't seem right. No proof, no calculations, just stating what went through my innocent, unbiased mind.


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Capliberty:

"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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