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zappaisgod
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6002284 - 08/27/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's not going to be that nasty for us. Unless you think that croissants make effective missiles when the frogs whine about how mean we are
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6002298 - 08/27/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wasn't aware you wanted to live in Iran so badly.
Since you refuse to view the current situation without bringing up pointless history with nothing to do with it, try this analogy on for size. People like you are like the Japanese who bombed pearl harbor and in doing so sealed the doom of their empire. They felt threatened and lashed out without thinking of the repercussions.
You want to run into Iran guns blazing right now. Thats a terrible idea. Iran has allies, Iran has oil, Iran has nukes. Sit still a minute and watch if your so weary of Iran. No good fighter starts swinging without sizing up their opponent. They probably didn't have a seminar on that during your Birthright:Israel trip. I don't want to wait for peace and happiness, I'm not naive. I just don't want to create more problems than there needs to be.
I'm telling you if You were in control of the US the empire and the 1# status, for whatever thats worth, would be down the toilet in a decade. We would starve for oil and allies and empathy. We would become so hated our security situation would be out of control.
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Israel is a useless ally? Yea, their military sure does suck, the worst in the world.
Fuck Israel's military. The US doesn't need it, we paid for half of it anyway. Their military is a baseball bat to our .44 mag. The military Israel offers is far exceeded by the enemies that come along with it. Name once in Israel's history where their military has ever been invaluable to the US in any way. Who cares if their military is good?
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
#6002301 - 08/27/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you have any idea how fucking big Iran is? It'll make Iraq look like a cakewalk. Unless of course we just nuke them, in which case we'll have the rest of the Arab world united against us.
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downforpot
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: DirtMcgirt]
#6002320 - 08/27/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DirtMcgirt said: I wasn't aware you wanted to live in Iran so badly.
Since you refuse to view the current situation without bringing up pointless history with nothing to do with it, try this analogy on for size.
And that is why you are illogical, because you don't know anything about history.
I don't want to live in Iran, I want their oil, their resources, I want them to do what America tells them to do.
Now move to a country that doesn't start wars and doesn't use others for its own advantage.
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Silversoul said: Do you have any idea how fucking big Iran is? It'll make Iraq look like a cakewalk. Unless of course we just nuke them, in which case we'll have the rest of the Arab world united against us.
We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams. And fuck the rest of the arab world. The Sunnis hate the Shia and have been slaughtering eachother little cattle for a long long time. Not to mention Kuwait and Saudi Emirates only care about money and they could give a rats ass wat the fundamenalists want. We just gotta make sure that we keep those Muslims on our side and thinking "money money money and more money."
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6002347 - 08/27/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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We will have to buy their oil, we can't take it. The rest of the world won't let us b/c they want it too. We still haven't seen a drop or Iraqi oil, have we? Iran will be worse. You idea that one can walk into IRan , blow every thing up, start pumping oil, and start giving orders is a fantasy. It will and can not ever happen especially with that whole Iraq mess next door.
All that moeny spent on not capturing IRan would be better used building our infrastructure and preparing for the inevitable disappearance of cheap oil. Than we can forget about the whole ME if we want.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6002388 - 08/27/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams.
Defeating Iran's military wouldn't be much of a challenge, but occupation of Iran would be damn near impossible. It's far far to large geographically and much more urbanized than Iraq.
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downforpot
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MushmanTheManic said: We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams.
Defeating Iran's military wouldn't be much of a challenge, but occupation of Iran would be damn near impossible. It's far far to large geographically and much more urbanized than Iraq.
Actually I think we can but first we need to make sure that we have the right people planning out the war. Rumsfeld needs to be fired for being a moron thinking he knows how to conduct war. Him and Bush should have listened to the general's who actually know how to wage war and win. The current administration has good goals but they don't really plan anything out and don't let the experts make decisions.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6002480 - 08/27/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
#6002544 - 08/27/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, that'll help our national security
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The_Red_Crayon
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
#6002620 - 08/27/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.
You can believe what ever you want Zappa, and as simplistic as you put it... Yea lets just go in with a big army and destroy them. Maybe you should quit your job and join the military it sounds like you know exactly what to do.
But you know thats alright you can always remember exactly what i said you can either take it with salt or you can listen intently. Either way i think you made up your mind concerning how you digest your media... Absolutely dumbed down.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6002714 - 08/27/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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downforpot said: I don't want to live in Iran, I want their oil, their resources, I want them to do what America tells them to do.
Um, ok. I guess you're one of the many in this country that think everyone would be better off if we took control of the world, huh? They have every right to be their own country, and we have no right to be in control of them. Also, what about their wants?
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Now move to a country that doesn't start wars and doesn't use others for its own advantage.
Well, see, the problem with that is it takes time to build up the funds to make that move; not to mention Visas, and trying to establish citizenship in the almost-completely bureaucratic world we live in today. Time is something we are running out of. Otherwise, I'd be gone as soon as the next plane boards.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
#6002913 - 08/27/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Nah, all we have to do is destroy their army, the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades. Sounds cool to me. To the stone age born, so shall ye return.
Actually that might in Iran considering that the young generations are not that pleased with Iran's religious rulers who are pushing bullshit laws. If I remember correctly there were actually riots in Iran a couple of years ago.
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demius said:
Well, see, the problem with that is it takes time to build up the funds to make that move; not to mention Visas, and trying to establish citizenship in the almost-completely bureaucratic world we live in today. Time is something we are running out of. Otherwise, I'd be gone as soon as the next plane boards.
Yes, it is extemely hard to become a citizen in other countries. USA is one of the few countries that has lax immigration and naturalization laws. This country has been known to attract a lot of immigrants even after the colonization and domination of its native population by the first Europeans.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: zappaisgod]
#6003078 - 08/27/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the people will take care of the mullahs and then fight each other for decades.
Eh, what? When was the last time Persians ever fought eachother?
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6003154 - 08/27/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the young generations are not that pleased with Iran's religious rulers who are pushing bullshit laws.
I think a lot of the country was sad to see Rafsanjani lose to that nut they have now.
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Hank, FTW
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6003226 - 08/27/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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MushmanTheManic said: We don't need nukes. A big ass army marching on the horizon is one of American's General's dreams.
Defeating Iran's military wouldn't be much of a challenge, but occupation of Iran would be damn near impossible. It's far far to large geographically and much more urbanized than Iraq.
Actually I think we can but first we need to make sure that we have the right people planning out the war. Rumsfeld needs to be fired for being a moron thinking he knows how to conduct war. Him and Bush should have listened to the general's who actually know how to wage war and win. The current administration has good goals but they don't really plan anything out and don't let the experts make decisions.
How about instead of that, we attack and destroy Israel, and instantly become allies of the entire Arab world.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6003287 - 08/27/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The arabs didn't start attacking us for support Israel. They started to attack us when started putting US troops on Muslim soil.
Also a lot of US troops would refuse to attack Israel because it is one of the few countries that don't want Americans dead. Not to mention a large number of Israelies are Americans.
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Edited by downforpot (08/27/06 10:11 PM)
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DirtMcgirt
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6003786 - 08/28/06 02:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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But, you have to admit. If the US all of a sudden leveled every city in Israel, the Muslim wolrd wouldn't know what to think. You'd think the US would get a few free passes.
But then again the last thing the US needs is a bunch of jew terrorists mad at them. Not that the israelis would ever resort to terrorism!
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: DirtMcgirt]
#6003809 - 08/28/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Clip #1245 on Memri Tv kind of supports the petrodollar theory of the invasion of Iraq. An alliance of poorer countries refusing to use the US dollar in oil transactions, forcing the US into a new depression.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: downforpot]
#6003814 - 08/28/06 03:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually that is my plan if I fuck up in college or right after college. I love this country and will kill for it to make sure it stays number 1.
If you loved your country you'd be concerned with making it good, not #1. Those tend to be 2 different goals with 2 opposite results.
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Re: Guys i just gotta say. [Re: DirtMcgirt]
#6003855 - 08/28/06 04:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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you say japanese suicidals felt threatened so they lashed out?
looks like you need a history lesson on WW2....japan was INVADING countries whilst the world was at war in europe,think that can sink in just enough?
also you say if the US builds infrastruture and concentrates on new fuel or whatever that then the world can forget the ME? like the world forgot north korea?
is firing missiles and threatening the free world ''lashing out because they feel threatened?
i'm against the draft only because i have kids and don't trust government authorities, but some people like you should be drafted because schooling,especially history lessons don't work for some so the only real hope for people like you is the hard way...conscription
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