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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
#6007028 - 08/29/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Where did I say the post war aid to Europe was a BAD thing?????????
It was a great thing, it had a purpose. Not like the aid to Israel, they get 3 billion a year for no other reason than being the chosen ones. They are a first world nation, give that aid to people who actually need it.
ALL TIME AID after WW2 130 billion.......but according to your logic, they should receive 105 billion, this year, next year and every year Israel receives 3 billion. Also all previous years, starting with 1945.
Not to mention the population of Israel is only like what? 6 million, while the population of Europe is what? 800 million? So if we factor in these ratios, America should send Europe 1 trillion a year or so.
You don't get it, Israel receives a ridiculous amount of aid, just because there were Jews in America since the 13 colonies, according to you. It is like a "sister nation".
Well, what about Europe, surely a place that makes up 70% of the American population deserves something a year. If you make it proportional to Israeli Aid, they should get about 1 trillion a year, EVERY YEAR!
See how ridiculous that is, America has been hi-jacked, IMO.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
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alpharedecho said: Are you retarded?
Hey, calm it down a notch, Skip.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: fireworks_god]
#6007827 - 08/29/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you read his post? He wrote
"Actually Europe recieved 130 billion in today's dollars, that is in today's money. That is American tax money. THANK GOD AMERICAN politicians didn't listen to people like you during that time."
So because I am arguing Israel gets too much aid, that all of a sudden means I think America should not have sent any money to post war Europe.
This guy keeps talking about how he goes to private schools, and how smart he is, but he is not fooling me for a second.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6007844 - 08/29/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I understand. 
I'm just saying, relax a bit, focus on effectively communicating your point. Asking if he is retarded, in such a manner, will probably just lead to trouble.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: fireworks_god]
#6007857 - 08/29/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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True enough, but this stuff is getting old, I can't stand arguing this guy. He brings up stuff that is irrelevant and argues it like crazy. What wasted effort on his part. lol
Check out the other thread "Guys, I gotta Say", you will see what I mean.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6008008 - 08/29/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said: True enough, but this stuff is getting old, I can't stand arguing this guy.
Then don't. 
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: fireworks_god]
#6008781 - 08/29/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ALL TIME AID after WW2 130 billion.......but according to your logic, they should receive 105 billion, this year, next year and every year Israel receives 3 billion. Also all previous years, starting with 1945.
When did I say Israel should receive 130 billion every year? And Europe did not receive all of it at once...
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alpharedecho said: Not to mention the population of Israel is only like what? 6 million, while the population of Europe is what? 800 million? So if we factor in these ratios, America should send Europe 1 trillion a year or so.
Why should Europe get 1 trillion a year now? We helped them and now they can fend for themselves.
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alpharedecho said: See how ridiculous that is, America has been hi-jacked, IMO.
Yea yea yea, America has been hijacked and the Jews plan to invade Mars. Honestly man, stop with the conspiracy theories because they aren't making you look very informed.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
#6008996 - 08/29/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ALL TIME AID after WW2 130 billion.......but according to your logic, they should receive 105 billion, this year, next year and every year Israel receives 3 billion. Also all previous years, starting with 1945.
When did I say Israel should receive 130 billion every year? And Europe did not receive all of it at once...
You didn't......and so what?
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alpharedecho said: Not to mention the population of Israel is only like what? 6 million, while the population of Europe is what? 800 million? So if we factor in these ratios, America should send Europe 1 trillion a year or so.
Why should Europe get 1 trillion a year now? We helped them and now they can fend for themselves.
Why can't Israel fend for them selves? They have more than enough money and weapons. The 1 trillion figure comes from this, now pay attention, cause I don't want to have to write this again. Jews make up 2% of the American population, while European Christians make up about 70%. Since we give 3 billion a year to Israel for no other reason then there being Jews in America, Europe should receive 105 billion(3 billion * 35(since there are 35 times more European Christians in America than Jews). Now, take that number and factor in the populations of the people receiving them. Israel has 6 million people while Europe has 800 million people. 800/6 = 133 that means there are 133 times more people in Europe than in Israel, so that means Europe should receive 133 times the amount(105 billion), Israel receives which actually works out to 14 trillion.
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY, "we don't need to give Europe money, they don't need it, we already gave them aid after the war, etc etc" SO YOU CAN SAVE IT.
MY POINT IS, SINCE WE ARE GIVING ISRAEL THIS AID, FOR NO REASON I CAN FIGURE OUT(THEY ARE A 1st WORLD NATION). THEN WHY SHOULD EUROPE NOT GET AN EQUAL SHARE BASED ON THEIR POPULATION IN EUROPE AND THEIR NUMBERS IN THE USA.
OBVIOUSLY I DON"T THINK EUROPE DESERVES ANY AID, BUT NEITHER DOES ISRAEL. America paying Israel 3 billion a year, would be equivalent to America paying Europe 14 trillion a year. Why does Israel get SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much money?????????
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alpharedecho said: See how ridiculous that is, America has been hi-jacked, IMO.
Yea yea yea, America has been hijacked and the Jews plan to invade Mars. Honestly man, stop with the conspiracy theories because they aren't making you look very informed.
Oh yeah, good points you brought up there. 
AMERICA IS GIVING ISRAEL AN INSANE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BASED ON THEIR TINY POPULATION, IN ISRAEL, AND IN AMERICA!
DON'T FORGET THE NAME OF THIS THREAD, DONATIONS TO ISRAEL ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE, SO THAT'S EVEN MORE AID FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
If you are going to reply, prove my points wrong, don't spout out your double speak about random, irrelevant shit!
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
#6009001 - 08/29/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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We've been supporting Israel for long enough and now they should have to fend for themselves? How about that?
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Redstorm]
#6009319 - 08/29/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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We will decide when they can fend for themselves.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
#6009465 - 08/29/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, AIPAC will.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6015961 - 08/31/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fanatic Muslims believe the only guarantee they have of getting into heaven is to die while doing jihad or achieving victory.
From Islam and Terrorism Chapter 4 by Mark Gabriel
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There is only one way to guarantee entrance into Paradise - and this makes the perfect motive for suicide bombers and jihad fighters. The only way to know for sure that you will get into Paradise is to die in jihad - to die while fighting the enemy of Islam. Jihad simply means that Muslims must fight the enemy of Allah until the enemies or the Muslims die.
From the unholy Quran, chapter 4 verse 74
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Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or gets victory, We shall besto on him a great reward.
Since death of the muslims doing jihad is one of the acceptable goals according to Islamic teachings, then this means Israel makes an excellent and necessary Islamic terrorist extermination system. If Israel fell, the Islamic terrorists won't stop their jihad against the non-muslims. Give the Islamic terrorists what they want most, death while doing jihad. When the Islamic terrorist genes are weeded out of society, then there will be peace. The Israelis are a lot braver than the PeeCee Europeans who will be continually attacked next after Israel and Lebanon falls to the Islamic terrorists.
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Editorial: Are more SUV terrorists among us?
The Washington DC Examiner Newspaper, The Examiner Aug 31, 2006 5:00 AM (8 hrs ago)
WASHINGTON - One calm and collected Muslim immigrant spouting hatred of America and Jews after suddenly ramming a sport utility vehicle into a crowd of students at the University of North Carolina does not a trend make. But now we have a second calm and collected immigrant Muslim behind the wheel of an SUV suddenly careening through the streets of San Francisco hitting and killing one man and injuring 14 more people.
Mere coincidence? Maybe, but the evidence has been accumulating for months and even years that these kinds of events are anything but coincidental. It is only prudent to consider the possibility that there will be more such incidents because they are examples of what Middle East expert Daniel Pipes calls “Sudden Jihadist Syndrome.” That is, Muslims who follow the most extreme jihadist advocates of hatred for Jews, Christians, Israel, America and Western civilization, unexpectedly acting on what they have been taught, including the rationalizations for mass murder.
Consider that in the UNC incident, Iranian immigrant Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar told police that he sought to “punish the government of the United States for their actions around the world,” that “people all over the world are being killed in war and now it is the people in the United States turn to be killed” and that he intended to “avenge the deaths of Muslims around the world.” Even as he planned his attack for nearly two years while attending school, he impressed others on campus as quiet, intelligent and friendly.
Now comes Afghani immigrant Omeed Aziz Popal, who according to San Francisco police investigators, showed absolutely no remorse, remained quite calm after being stopped and would say only that he ran over his victims because “he wanted to.” Let it be noted that authorities also say Popal clearly intended to hit each of his victims and that his rampage struck a predominantly Jewish neighborhood hardest, ending near a Jewish Community Center. A witness told a San Francisco television station that Popal called himself a “terrorist” after being arrested and handcuffed at the scene.
This meme of Mr. Nice Guy Muslim Neighbor suddenly exploding in a murderous assault upon innocent Americans or other Westerners — often in locales one would never consider likely killing grounds — is becoming all too familiar. Besides the UNC and San Francisco SUV incidents, the Sudden Jihadist Syndrome was evident in these previous incidents, as noted by Pipes:
“Were Mr. Taheri-azar unique in his surreptitious adoption of radical Islam, one could ignore his case, but he fits into a widespread pattern of Muslims who lead quiet lives before turning to terrorism. Their number includes the hijackers responsible for the attacks of Sept. 11, the London transport bombers, and the Intel engineer arrested before he could join the Taliban in Afghanistan, Maher Hawash.
“A Saudi living in Houston, Mohammed Ali Alayed, fit the pattern because he stabbed and murdered a Jewish man, Ariel Sellouk, who was his one-time friend. So do some converts to Islam; who suspected a 38-year-old Belgian woman, Muriel Degauque, would turn up in Iraq as a suicide bomber throwing herself against an American military base.”
Considering that U.S. border and immigration controls have been almost laughably ineffective for years, we ought not be surprised to find we have many Sudden Jihadist Syndrome time bombs walking among us.
http://www.examiner.com/a-254232~Editorial__Are_more_SUV_terrorists_among_us_.html
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Luddite]
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Luddite]
#6015979 - 08/31/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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From: The Types of Jihad http://www.ummah.net.pk/harkat/jihad/t-jihad.htm (site is offline, but here's the google-cache of the article) There are two types of Jihad against the Kuffar
1- Offensive Jihad 2- Defensive Jihad
1- Offensive Jihad is when the Muslims launch an offensive attack. If this attack is on the Kuffar who have previously received the message of Islam, then to call them towards Islam before commencement of the attack is considered preferable.
However, if the message of Islam has not reached them, then the Kuffar will be invited towards Islam. If they reject this true faith, then they will have to pay Jizyah (Kufr tax). If they refuse to submit to the payment of Jizyah then the Muslims are to fight against them. With this type of Jihad the Kuffar who plot against the Muslims are repelled and their hearts are filled with fear, so that they do not succeed in their plans.
The offensive Jihad is Fardh Kifayah, the purpose of which is to ensure the Kuffar remain terrorised and away from mischief, thereby, allowing the message of Islam to be conveyed without any obstructions.
If one group of Muslims fulfil this obligation then it will be sufficient on behalf of all Muslims, but if there are no Muslims fulfilling this obligation then everyone is considered sinful.
It is stated in Fatawa Shami: It is required of the Imam (leader) of the Muslims to dispatch the army routinely once or twice a year towards the Kufr countries. It is also the duty of the Muslim public to assist the Imam in this noble cause. If the Imam does not send an army, then he will considered sinful.
The majority of Jihad undertaken at the time of our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was within the category of offensive Jihad.
The Quran has called upon the Muslims to undertake the offensive Jihad and when this obligation is satisfactorily fulfilled there would be no apparent need for the defensive Jihad.
When Muslims neglect this important obligation then they are subjected to the defensive Jihad and this has become, with regret, widely common in our time.
http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/jihad.html
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Luddite]
#6016077 - 08/31/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are full of shit, I'm not even going to bother replying. Are you Jewish?
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