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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
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downforpot said: The Israelis did see the flag... They were told by US that were would be no US ships there so any warships would be attacked.
The ship was in International waters, it doesn't matter.
So your saying the Israeli's knew they were attacking a united states vessel?
AND IRAQ IS THE COUNTRY THAT THEY GO TO WAR WITH, LOL
I feel soooo bad for those who died on that ship, No consequences for mass murder.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
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internation waters, flying the stars & stripes, sailing at 5 knots, identified the day before, with English writing on its haul. The attack lasted HOURS.
[cough]GULF OF TONKIN [/cough]
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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I just don't understand how people can scream "conspiracy, wacko, nut job" when people suggest that Israel is in major control of the USA. Well not control, highly influential. Your media, judicial system, foreign policy, government etc etc etc are ALL highly influenced by Israeli/Jewish interests. It is treason if you ask me.
If you can't see that, you are in denial. (not talking to you Dr, just a general statement.)
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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ShroomDr said: internation waters, flying the stars & stripes, sailing at 5 knots, identified the day before, with English writing on its haul. The attack lasted HOURS.
[cough]GULF OF TONKIN [/cough]
Yes it was identified the day before. That is why Israel said "a day before." You know, a day before? Like can they like put a tracking beacon on a ship? Like totaly?
By the way: Why did Iraq bomb our ship in 1987. Why did Israel kill 20 Israeli soldiers by bombing tanks which they thought were Syrian?
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alpharedecho said: I just don't understand how people can scream "conspiracy, wacko, nut job" when people suggest that Israel is in major control of the USA. Well not control, highly influential. Your media, judicial system, foreign policy, government etc etc etc are ALL highly influenced by Israeli/Jewish interests. It is treason if you ask me.
If you can't see that, you are in denial. (not talking to you Dr, just a general statement.)
I am not going to believe you for the same reason people 60 years ago didn't believe that Jews were the reason that the German economy sucked. Well, some people did believe that, they are called nazis and they still do believe that except now they believe that Jews faked the holocaust. I also won't ever believe you because stupid european christians said that the Plague was caused by Jews so they slaughtered Jewish villages in Europe.
"Accidents caused by "friendly fire" are not uncommon in wartime. In 1988, the U.S. Navy mistakenly downed an Iranian passenger plane, killing 290 civilians. During the Gulf War, 35 of the 148 Americans who died in battle were killed by "friendly fire." In fact, only the day before the Liberty was attacked, Israeli pilots accidentally bombed one of their own armored columns south of Jenin on the West Bank."
http://www.ussliberty.org/roth.htm
Also check Wiki for more info.
ONE QUESTION: You make conspiracy theories (hypothesi) all you want but you first need to explain why Israel would attack its on purpose and then offer to help tow the ship and rescue the sailors?
"1968: Friendly Fire: Crew of a U.S. helicopter, "misunderstanding" radio instructions of a Vietnamese Ranger officer, fires a rocket and a blast of machine gun fire at a South Vietnamese command post in Saigon, killing, among others, the Saigon Chief of Police."
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=17058
Also lets not forget Pat Tillman who was killed by his own rangers.
Ok, who wants more stories of friendly fire turned into conspiracy theories?
Tons of friendly fire in vietnam: http://www.gruntonline.com/TheWar/friendly_fire3.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_fire#Incidents_and_persons
that wiki article includes some of the following:
2002 - American F-16 pilot Harry Schmidt killed four Canadian soldiers in an Afghanistan friendly fire incident. 1991 - American A-10 in the Gulf War attacks British APCs killing nine British soldiers (the same number as were killed by enemy fire in the whole war). 2005 - American soldier Mario Lozano killed Italian intelligence agent Nicola Calipari and wounded Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena in Baghdad. Sgrena had been kidnapped and subsequently rescued by Calipari. However it is claimed that the car they were escaping in failed to stopped at an American checkpoint, and US soldiers opened fire. 2005 - American troops opened fire on a Bulgarian convoy. Junior Sergeant Gardi Gardev is killed.
As for the Italian agent killed.... well, I remember people on here screaming "IT WAS PLANNED, THEY WANTED HIM DEAD FOR NEGOTIATING WITH THE SAND NIGGERS!!!!" or was that another site?
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
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[cough]GULF OF TONKIN [/cough]
Yes it was identified the day before. That is why Israel said "a day before." You know, a day before? Like can they like put a tracking beacon on a ship? Like totaly?
OK, how many other naval ships did israel attack durring the six days war? (i'm pretty sure that they attacked 3 ships total) Also, 5 knots is slow as fuck! Why would a ship at war be traveling that slow?
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Because they are warmongerers, Attack first, ask questions later. 'Ah that's not an American ship, even though there is an American flag, it is an Egyptian ploy, even though they are in international waters, sailing too slow for war, and have English writing on them, not Arabic'
'As far as why do attack a US ship? How about you either did not believe it was a US ship (see above reasons why it was NOT an Arabic ship) or you were trying to cover up your war crimes in Egypt(Mass graves Israel has acknowledged, and offered to compensated for). The Liberty was a spy ship, and its signals were jammed throughout the attack.
Why would LBJ cover it up? Just another Texan imho, Why the gulf of Tonkin? Why did you need to be sworn in, in Dallas? LBJ was as crooked as a televangelist!
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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ShroomDr said: internation waters, flying the stars & stripes, sailing at 5 knots, identified the day before, with English writing on its haul. The attack lasted HOURS.
[cough]GULF OF TONKIN [/cough]
Yes it was identified the day before. That is why Israel said "a day before." You know, a day before? Like can they like put a tracking beacon on a ship? Like totaly?
OK, how many other naval ships did israel attack durring the six days war? (i'm pretty sure that they attacked 3 ships total) Also, 5 knots is slow as fuck! Why would a ship at war be traveling that slow?
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downforpot said: Why did Israel kill 20 Israeli soldiers by bombing tanks which they thought were Syrian?
Because they are warmongerers, Attack first, ask questions later. 'Ah that's not an American ship, even though there is an American flag, it is an Egyptian ploy, even though they are in international waters, sailing too slow for war, and have English writing on them, not Arabic'
'As far as why do attack a US ship? How about you either did not believe it was a US ship (see above reasons why it was NOT an Arabic ship) or you were trying to cover up your war crimes in Egypt(Mass graves Israel has acknowledged, and offered to compensated for). The Liberty was a spy ship, and its signals were jammed throughout the attack.
Why would LBJ cover it up? Just another Texan imho, Why the gulf of Tonkin? Why did you need to be sworn in, in Dallas? LBJ was as crooked as a televangelist!
Every friendly fire incident in every war and by every country can be said to be caused by war mongers. Keep chanting.
You have been making up " MAYBE" ideas out of the situation. Just like the people that said "maybe Pat Tillman was killed because he was a democrat," "maybe USA shot down an Iranian passenger plane to escalate the situation," "Maybe the Italian agent was killed because Italian negotiated with the kidnappers."
Basically yea, keep making up conspiracy theories (hypothesi).
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
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alpharedecho said: I know about the USS liberty, just another thing Israel supporters are in denial about.
Israel-Hey, give us all your money and support, while we get the world pissed off at you, and we will attack and kill your soldiers while we are at it. We also will not give you a single thing in return.
USA-OK
AIPAC, FTW!
Osama wasn't pissed US for supporting Israel. Osama got pissed because US troops were on Muslim soil. I already stated this fact but you continue to ignore it and keep thinking that if US stops supporting Israel then the Muslims will happily stop trying to attack the West.
Uh, ObL is also pissed off at the US for supporting Israel. Have you even read his statements before?
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: NamelessRevolt]
#5996933 - 08/25/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://www.ussliberty.org/
I believe the USS liberty was attacked because it may have been spying on Israeli communications. Nobody really knows for sure except that confusing the USS liberty for an Egyptian warship is a fucking lie.
This is a classic case of people within the gov't being angry but not being able to do anything because of the massive influence of the Jews.
Fun Fact: McGonagle was the only person who have recieved the Medal of Honor in secret by someone who wasn't the president.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: NamelessRevolt]
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Israel-Hey, give us all your money and support, while we get the world pissed off at you, and we will attack and kill your soldiers while we are at it. We also will not give you a single thing in return.
USA-OK
AIPAC, FTW!
Osama wasn't pissed US for supporting Israel. Osama got pissed because US troops were on Muslim soil. I already stated this fact but you continue to ignore it and keep thinking that if US stops supporting Israel then the Muslims will happily stop trying to attack the West.
Uh, ObL is also pissed off at the US for supporting Israel. Have you even read his statements before?
Why didn't he care before we started stationing troops on Arab soil? Have I missed his statements? Have you missed the statements of countless terrorists and kidnappers making bullshit demands that have nothing or little to do with their main objective?
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I believe the USS liberty was attacked because it may have been spying on Israeli communications. Nobody really knows for sure except that confusing the USS liberty for an Egyptian warship is a fucking lie.
This is a classic case of people within the gov't being angry but not being able to do anything because of the massive influence of the Jews.
And Pat Tillman was killed because he was a Democrat. And Israel killed 20 of its own troops with an air attack because the pilot was pmsing.
Did I mention that US troops killed an Italian agent because Italy negotiated with the kidnappers? It's the truth, I swear....
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
#5999551 - 08/26/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ShroomDr said: internation waters, flying the stars & stripes, sailing at 5 knots, identified the day before, with English writing on its haul. The attack lasted HOURS.
[cough]GULF OF TONKIN [/cough]
Yes it was identified the day before. That is why Israel said "a day before." You know, a day before? Like can they like put a tracking beacon on a ship? Like totaly?
Let me start off by saying, I absolutely hate debating you. You don't address the points, and just talk out of your ass. IF THE SHIP WAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED, HOW IS IT FRIENDLY FIRE? They knew what they were hitting, and continued to hit it for hours. Address that fact, and not some irrelevent part of my post. You are just making our points for us, saying the Israeli's knew it was an American ship for days, do you realize that? Also, that shit about the beacons, and the "like totally" crap just shows you have no points to stand on.
By the way: Why did Iraq bomb our ship in 1987. Why did Israel kill 20 Israeli soldiers by bombing tanks which they thought were Syrian?
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alpharedecho said: I just don't understand how people can scream "conspiracy, wacko, nut job" when people suggest that Israel is in major control of the USA. Well not control, highly influential. Your media, judicial system, foreign policy, government etc etc etc are ALL highly influenced by Israeli/Jewish interests. It is treason if you ask me.
If you can't see that, you are in denial. (not talking to you Dr, just a general statement.)
I am not going to believe you for the same reason people 60 years ago didn't believe that Jews were the reason that the German economy sucked. Well, some people did believe that, they are called nazis and they still do believe that except now they believe that Jews faked the holocaust. I also won't ever believe you because stupid european christians said that the Plague was caused by Jews so they slaughtered Jewish villages in Europe.
Again, you bring up irrelevent points, you say you wont believe me based on the actions of people 40 years before I was born. Wow, that makes a lot of sense. I don't give a flying fuck what other people believe, so STOP bringing up the beliefs of OTHERS to debate ME. I repeat: STOP bringing up the beliefs of OTHERS to debate ME. You are possibly the worse debator on these boards.
"Accidents caused by "friendly fire" are not uncommon in wartime. In 1988, the U.S. Navy mistakenly downed an Iranian passenger plane, killing 290 civilians. During the Gulf War, 35 of the 148 Americans who died in battle were killed by "friendly fire." In fact, only the day before the Liberty was attacked, Israeli pilots accidentally bombed one of their own armored columns south of Jenin on the West Bank."
You link us to a quote that is irrelavent. I don't care that America brought down an Iranian passanger plane, we are discussing the USS Liberty. You already admitted that the Israeli's KNEW it was an American ship a day before. So WHY did they attack it for hours, killing over 160 US soldiers? Address my points, Do not bring up shit about some Iranian event that has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
http://www.ussliberty.org/roth.htm
Also check Wiki for more info.
ONE QUESTION: You make conspiracy theories (hypothesi) all you want but you first need to explain why Israel would attack its on purpose and then offer to help tow the ship and rescue the sailors?
It's called a false flag operation, they attacked with the ONLY planes that were not marked in their entire fleet. Therefore making America believe it was Egypt. Why would they rescue them? Are you serious, you can't figure out why they would go rescue them? You never cease to amaze me. The reason they went and rescued them, was so they would not seem guilty of what they had just done, with their UN-MARKED planes.
"1968: Friendly Fire: Crew of a U.S. helicopter, "misunderstanding" radio instructions of a Vietnamese Ranger officer, fires a rocket and a blast of machine gun fire at a South Vietnamese command post in Saigon, killing, among others, the Saigon Chief of Police."
AGAIN, NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=17058
Also lets not forget Pat Tillman who was killed by his own rangers.
Ok, who wants more stories of friendly fire turned into conspiracy theories?
Tons of friendly fire in vietnam: http://www.gruntonline.com/TheWar/friendly_fire3.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_fire#Incidents_and_persons
that wiki article includes some of the following:
2002 - American F-16 pilot Harry Schmidt killed four Canadian soldiers in an Afghanistan friendly fire incident. 1991 - American A-10 in the Gulf War attacks British APCs killing nine British soldiers (the same number as were killed by enemy fire in the whole war). 2005 - American soldier Mario Lozano killed Italian intelligence agent Nicola Calipari and wounded Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena in Baghdad. Sgrena had been kidnapped and subsequently rescued by Calipari. However it is claimed that the car they were escaping in failed to stopped at an American checkpoint, and US soldiers opened fire. 2005 - American troops opened fire on a Bulgarian convoy. Junior Sergeant Gardi Gardev is killed.
As for the Italian agent killed.... well, I remember people on here screaming "IT WAS PLANNED, THEY WANTED HIM DEAD FOR NEGOTIATING WITH THE SAND NIGGERS!!!!" or was that another site?
AGAIN, NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Which part? The donations or the USS Liberty accident? I am reffering to the USS Liberty accident and giving people examples of other friendly fire accidents which were blown out of proportion by conspiracy theorists.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
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Address my points in the previous post.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Which post? The first post?
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: NamelessRevolt]
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I believe the USS liberty was attacked because it may have been spying on Israeli communications. Nobody really knows for sure except that confusing the USS liberty for an Egyptian warship is a fucking lie.
This is a classic case of people within the gov't being angry but not being able to do anything because of the massive influence of the Jews.
Fun Fact: McGonagle was the only person who have recieved the Medal of Honor in secret by someone who wasn't the president.
This is the real reason I believe also. I think LBJ was covering for the Israelies. All I was doing was pointing out that Israel doesnt take shit from anybody. They do what they want, when they want.
Even if you don't think it was staged, (which i do not), do you believe that it could have been covered up by LBJ?
I've pushed this topic way off track with my initial USS Liberty reference.
As far as giving money to another nations armed forces. Does anyone think that is a good idea? And please EXPLAIN
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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I believe the USS liberty was attacked because it may have been spying on Israeli communications. Nobody really knows for sure except that confusing the USS liberty for an Egyptian warship is a fucking lie.
This is a classic case of people within the gov't being angry but not being able to do anything because of the massive influence of the Jews.
Fun Fact: McGonagle was the only person who have recieved the Medal of Honor in secret by someone who wasn't the president.
This is the real reason I believe also. I think LBJ was covering for the Israelies. All I was doing was pointing out that Israel doesnt take shit from anybody. They do what they want, when they want.
Even if you don't think it was staged, (which i do not), do you believe that it could have been covered up by LBJ?
I've pushed this topic way off track with my initial USS Liberty reference.
As far as giving money to another nations armed forces. Does anyone think that is a good idea? And please EXPLAIN
Yes. Israel is not just some nation, it is our sister nation and one of the few nations in that region that doesn't want americans dead.
Also there have been a lot of close ties between US and Jews for a long time. Jews have lived in the US since the 13 colonies so it's not just giving money to some nation. It is a piece of our nation over there fighting over a homeland.
By the way: The government cannot keep a secret, that is a fact. Every bullshit act the government commited has been discovered by the public. The same goes for people that scream Bush planned the 9/11 attacks. Are you telling me that they can keep that a secret but can't keep the wiretaping, money tranfers, gitmo, etc etc. under wraps?
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
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Yes. Israel is not just some nation, it is our sister nation NO, England is our sister nation and one of the few nations in that region that doesn't want americans dead. What nation wants american 'dead' Horrible gerneralization. Who will they trade with, and who would trade with them? Where do they get Coca-Cola, Nike, and Baseball? Horrible gerneralization. It's like saying all southerners are lazy, and hate blacks, because they are lazy
Also there have been a lot of close ties between US and Jews for a long time. Jews have lived in the US since the 13 colonies Jews have lived EVERYWHERE since before the 1700's, citing our first states says nothing. Until the anti-semitism of the late 19th and early 20th century, Jews were not more prevelant here than other countries so it's not just giving money to some nation. It is a piece of our nation over there fighting over a homeland. I disagree.
By the way: The government cannot keep a secret, that is a fact. Every bullshit act the government commited has been discovered by the public. The same goes for people that scream Bush planned the 9/11 attacks. Are you telling me that they can keep that a secret but can't keep the wiretaping, money tranfers, gitmo, etc etc. under wraps? I don't know what your talking about here, or where the statement is comming from. I don't think Bush covered up USS Liberty, But I do believe it was 'swept under the rug' by LBJ <---I'm sure our govt stopped doing that sort of thing though [/sarcasm]
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
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I believe the USS liberty was attacked because it may have been spying on Israeli communications. Nobody really knows for sure except that confusing the USS liberty for an Egyptian warship is a fucking lie.
This is a classic case of people within the gov't being angry but not being able to do anything because of the massive influence of the Jews.
Fun Fact: McGonagle was the only person who have received the Medal of Honor in secret by someone who wasn't the president.
This is the real reason I believe also. I think LBJ was covering for the Israelis. All I was doing was pointing out that Israel doesn't take shit from anybody. They do what they want, when they want.
Even if you don't think it was staged, (which i do not), do you believe that it could have been covered up by LBJ?
I've pushed this topic way off track with my initial USS Liberty reference.
As far as giving money to another nations armed forces. Does anyone think that is a good idea? And please EXPLAIN
Yes. Israel is not just some nation, it is our sister nation and one of the few nations in that region that doesn't want Americans dead.
Also there have been a lot of close ties between US and Jews for a long time. Jews have lived in the US since the 13 colonies so it's not just giving money to some nation. It is a piece of our nation over there fighting over a homeland.
By the way: The government cannot keep a secret, that is a fact. Every bullshit act the government committed has been discovered by the public. The same goes for people that scream Bush planned the 9/11 attacks. Are you telling me that they can keep that a secret but can't keep the wiretapping, money transfers, gitmo, etc etc. under wraps?
Israel is the USA's sister nation eh? I'm sure you being Jewish doesn't have a thing to do with that statement.
As far as I'm concerned Israel is a blood sucking parasite which takes, takes, takes, and offers nothing to the USA in return. All the while, making the USA a less safe place in the world, due to it's unexplainable, unconditional support of a FOREIGN nation. I could explain it, but you would say "conspiracy" even though it is pretty clear who is running the show in the USA these days.
The USA is primarily white Christians, so by your logic, America should be giving aid to Britain, France, Germany, ETC ETC.
Lets break this down, Jews make up about 2% of the United States population and Israel receives 3 billion a year from the government.
So that means America should send to Africa(12% of pop) 18 billion.
They should also send Europe(70% of pop) 105 billion.
9/11 is a hard issue to argue, since so many people died. They see it as a slap in the face when you try and argue the official story. It is being unraveled slowly but surely.
I will believe the official story when there is concrete proof to support it. Right now, there are far to many unanswered questions.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6005246 - 08/28/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually US gave a SHITLOAD of money to Britain and other parts of Europe after WWII to ensure that Communism would not conquer those areas. And there were people against giving US taxpayer money to Europe.
We are also still sending a lot of money to Southern America to make sure communism does not spread there.
So basically there was opposition from Americans towards the Marshall Plan and there is currently opposition by Americans towards aid for Israel and other countries which are on the front lines of our fight against ideology that threatens our way of life.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: downforpot]
#6005418 - 08/28/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow, you address a single point, and not very well. Is Europe receiving 105 billion a year, every year, including this year, and all future years?
I don't think we have to be worried about Islam spreading to North America unless we don't stop letting them Immigrate here.
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Re: Donations To Israeli Military Are Tax-Deductible! [Re: Hank, FTW]
#6005812 - 08/28/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually Europe recieved 130 billion in today's dollars, that is in today's money. That is American tax money. THANK GOD AMERICAN politicians didn't listen to people like you during that time.
Actually I am for letting Muslims immigrating to America and creating programs to help assimilitate them.
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