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stebo32
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My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds
#5983248 - 08/21/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lily_Morgan
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: stebo32]
#5983254 - 08/21/06 08:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Heh, are you gonna eat em? lol
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stebo32
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5983259 - 08/21/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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of course i am
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iamyour_messiah
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: stebo32]
#5983265 - 08/21/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you sure those are all A muscaria var. formosa? I believe A. muscaria has concentric veil remnants starting from the bulbous base upwards a bit. I see that in your second pic, but the mushrooms in the first and last pic don't seem to have that. I wouldn't be so quick to eat them if I were you, untill you have a proper ID.
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stebo32
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5983273 - 08/21/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes i am positive... amanita muscarias where i live (quebec)... also known as the "amanita tue-mouche" (fly killer) are the most common shrooms to be found during fall in pine regions. which is exactly where they were found. and in Quebec there is mostly just yellow amanitas. so var.formosa.
there isnt much difficutly in amanita picking... seriously... amanitas have those white warts on em and their stem shape and look are pretty unique, all you gotta make sure about is their cap color. yellow-orage or red... if not... dont pick em... its not my first time amanita hunting either.
but thanks for the concern man
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stebo32
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: stebo32]
#5983287 - 08/21/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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and i think the cap shape is whats confusing you most. but theyre okay, i found them all (including the 2nd one) around the same place.
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iamyour_messiah
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: stebo32]
#5983302 - 08/21/06 08:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well thing is, I imagine there is a multitude of amanitas with yellow caps. Just cause A. muscaria var. formosa is the most commonly found mushroom around there doesn't neccesarily mean that any yellow capped amanita will be that. This saturday I was in the Swiss alps hunting for mushrooms and I found a hell of alot of amanitas. All red with white dots. At first I assumed everything I was finding was A. muscaria. Upon closer inspection many of them had the concentric veil remnants at the base, but many also didnt. Im pretty sure I was finding different species.
ALso if you look at that second pic, there is the partial veil left under the cap. I see no evidence of that on the sepcimens in the first pic.
Again, not try to sound condescending or anything, cause I don't know that much about mushrooms IDing. I just don't think its right to say that those are A. muscaria var. formosa by defualts cause of the yellow cap and where they were growing.
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5983313 - 08/21/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Messiah has a good point. There are look alikes, and they can grow together. The single most definitive characteristic of Amanita muscaria is the concentric, shaggy rings at the base of the mushroom. Your second pic shows this characteristic beautifully. On some of your other finds, it appears the base is cutoff so it's hard to know if those rings were present.
Nice finds and pics though. Let us know what your experience is like if you do eat them.
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stebo32
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: xmush]
#5983331 - 08/21/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes i know.. but i wouldnt be quite sure about the base rings... ive seen lots of amanita muscaria. var musaria and var.formosa with a simple long white stem. besides, the leaves are blocking the rings, and the first pic with all my finds, the base isnt there anymore.
And actually, no ... there arent many yellow amanitas, and the ones there are, are much different, take the amanita phalloides and verna, some are yellow... but none has the white warts, or neither even has the same cap shape... and the look-a-likes there WOULD be with those finds would be edible... so there isnt much danger... the poisonous amanitas are SUPER easy to identify.
there arent that many amanita muscaria species ... and Ive read books about the species of mushrooms growing in Quebec, and var.formosa are the most common, and there are few other species, but they are present.
Edited by stebo32 (08/21/06 09:04 AM)
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Re: My Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa finds [Re: stebo32]
#5983652 - 08/21/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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From the one picture that actually shows some of the base of the stem, it looks consistent with A. muscaria var. formosa. (second pic) as xmush already said.
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