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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: daimyo]
    #6014646 - 08/31/06 07:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If you wanna lower cholestrol then porridge ie oatmeal is your friend. Somehow the fucker manages to naturally lower your cholestrol. (vague stuff here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oatmeal). Only downside is that you have to eat quite a lot. Like, two bowls a day, and its filling.

I make it in the microwave, just as good as on the stove. Half a cup of oats, half a cup of milk (soya these days too) and a splash of water, nuke it for 2 mins, stir, give it another minute or so. You have to judge it yourself how long it needs after the first too mins, it shouldn't betoo gooey or too runny, just porridgey. Add more water/milk if necessary. I eat one for breakfast with a bit of honey or maple syrup and chopped banana, damn thats good, and another for lunch, usually salted not sweet, with some savoury topping like tomato or something. Its not the most exciting food but its so damn cheap, so damn healthy and it fills you up. Then I make something interesting for dinner.

Its great in the morning with a nice mug of fresh coffee...Im addicted now. It maybe costs two pounds/four dollars to feed your breakfast/lunch for a week!


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: daimyo]
    #6014764 - 08/31/06 10:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

smoothies might also be a good idea. I use frozen strawberries, fresh peaches, bananas, and spinach. Add some yogurt and milk, and you've got from 2-5 of your fruit and veggie needs right there. Lots of vitamins, iron, and good healthy sugars.

I pretty much eat fresh veggies for dinners. Steamed brocolli and carrots, mashed potatoes (or baked), okra, corn, tomatoes, cucumber, beans (white, green, etc). Sometimes bake some chicken, but not very often.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: Shroomism]
    #6030712 - 09/05/06 11:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm very wary of splenda. I don't trust it like I never trusted aspartame back when everyone thought it was the best thing to use instead of sugar before they found out it causes cancer. I'll just use honey instead of sugar.. it tastes better to me anyway.




For those who aren't a huge fan of the taste of honey, pure maple syrup also makes a nice substitute for sugar... I don't know how good it is for you, but I think it sweetens more without adding as much flavor as honey does.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #6031326 - 09/05/06 03:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's certainly not bad for you.. it's mostly energy in the form of levulose, which is a variant of fructose and glucose..calcium, potassium, phosphorous, iron, and trace amounts of B vitamins


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: Shroomism]
    #6031385 - 09/05/06 03:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

A good salad:
1 can drained and rinsed black beans (buy the cheapest available - cheaper brands usually contain only beans, water, and salt)
2 ears of fresh sweet corn (this time of year - other times, or based on your location, canned can be substituted) - slice the kernels right off
other raw fruits and veggies - avocado, tomato, cucumber, lettuce, etc.
lemon (or lime) juice

Black beans and corn have complimentary amino acids, and this makes a delicious, filling, cheap, and easy to prepare salad.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: phi1618]
    #6031519 - 09/05/06 04:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

for a salad I like a mixture of kale and spinach
cherry tomatoes, avocado, carrots, red onions, black beans, bell pepper, and chutney, with fresh cilantro. sometimes I'll throw some lentils in there too.


Something I like to make for lunch or a snack is a veggie wrap:

Use large wheat pita (or tortilla wrap)
Open the pouch and put a nice thick layer of hummus
Fill with bean sprouts, thinly sliced carrots, tomato, cucumber, zucchini, and cream cheese
Delicious. Sometimes I'll put in sliced red or yellow peppers, or green onions, and/or mushrooms.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: Shroomism]
    #6038636 - 09/07/06 04:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't recommend soy. Simply because there are a lot of dissenting opinions on the supposed health benefits and even the very suitability of it as a part of the human diet. Asians have used it for a long time but primarily in fermented forms, and in much smaller quantities than soy manufacturers would have you think. There is considerable evidence to show that soy acts as an estrogenic substance in the human body. It's not the only food that does that but any such food should be approached cautiously. Other than where I disagree with him on that, Shroomism really seems to know his shit, lots of good advice.

A homemade curry as suggested by lowdominion is a good idea but dude, frozen vegetables?? Go with fresh man, so much goodness down the tubes with frozen. Why not go with fresh onion instead of onion powder, and plenty of raw garlic and some ginger too?


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: Viveka]
    #6040842 - 09/08/06 12:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'm also a bit skeptical about the claims of soy's health benefits. It has good protein, but protein is almost never an issue for a vegetarian with a reasonably varied diet that isn't based on junk food and who isn't running marathons or trying to become the next Mr. Universe. Soy contains a variety steroids, many estrogenic - although some people claim that these compounds have various health benefits, I'm a bit afraid to eat too much (particularly as a man, who doesn't need more estrogen). A small amount of soy is almost certainly harmless and healthy; a lot is probably too much.

During the spring summer and fall, use seasonal produce. During the winter, frozen veggies are probably at least as healthy and delicious as the available "fresh" ones. Since frozen veggies are frozen when fresh, they retain their nutrition and flavor much better than fresh that need to be stored and shipped.
see: http://www.nutritionaustralia.org/News_in_Nutrition/Published_Papers/FrozenVege.pdf


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: Viveka]
    #6041193 - 09/08/06 02:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Soy can be eaten quite safely in moderation. Over-consumption is to be avoided, like most things.. and indeed fermented soy products (Tempeh, Miso.. etc) is generally a better form for human consumption. The fact is soy contains isoflavones that act like a very weak form of synthetic estrogens.. approximately 1/1000th the activity of estradiol. It is preferable to obtain isoflavones from whole foods to receive specific health benefits.. approximately 25 grams a day of soy protein provides approximately 50 mg/day of isoflavones.

The idea that consumption of soy causes an imbalance of estrogen levels and decreases testosterone production is misinformation spread mostly by the bodybuilding and supplement industries, who want you to take their protein supplements.. It is based more on hopeful fiction than fact. You would have to eat a ridiculous amount of soy for it to even begin to effect your natural occurring estrogen levels. In fact the only known side-effects, short term or long, of eating too much soy is: stomach upset and digestive problems.

However, soy is not the be-all and end-all of proteins. Hemp seed is.

Nor should soy be a primary source of protein. You should get protein from a wide variety of sources (mostly grains and legumes and nuts). The key is moderation and diversity in diet. However, overconsumption of soy will not cause you to grow breasts. In fact, the benefits of moderate daily amounts of soy protein FAR outweigh any potential negative side effects. Soy is known to fight and help prevent several types of cancer, including lung and prostate cancer in men and breast cancer in woman, it also helps fight and prevent heart disease.

Links/sources -
http://www.wellnessletter.com/html/ds/dsSoy.php
http://www.mdanderson.org/departments/ci...hod=displayFull
http://nutrition.about.com/b/a/206952.htm
http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/04fall/soy.html
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Soybean.asp?sitearea=ETO
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/007204.htm


If you're looking for the ultimate food/protein though.. it is Hemp Seed.
Hemp Seed contains almost the exact ideal amounts of each essential amino and fatty acids for human consumption. It is a very rich source of complete proteins, (the type of protein is ideal for human consumption..), is very rich in Omega-3 fatty acid and Omega-6 fatty acid. A tablespoon of seeds contains 3-4 grams of fats (polyunsaturated) and ALA. ALA and other plants containing this substance are known to have benefits for a variety of inflammatory conditions, atherosclerosis, and some neurological problems. Hemp seed also contains vitamin E and a wide variety of minerals.
An unidentified compound or compounds from an extract of hemp seeds has been shown to promote memory, learning, and immune function in mice. It is believed to act by stimulating a brain enzyme known as calcineurin.
Hemp seed is basically a miracle food that is ideal for human consumption/digestion. And yeah its protein is far superior to soy protein.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: Shroomism]
    #6041808 - 09/08/06 06:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Good stuff, that hemp. Too bad that when smoked in a marijuana cigarette, or reefer, it causes MURDEROUS DEBAUCHERY. Infants slaying their own mothers and once upstanding gentlemen beeing beaten to death with their own shoes!


Lately I've really been stoking on grains like quinoa and amaranth. I've read that these two combined have a nutritional profile that approaches perfect as far as human dietary needs are concerned.
They're 15-23% protein, 90% digestible and packed with vitamins and minerals and have an ideal amino acid profile. They even contains a good amount of lysine, an essential amino acid rarely found in non-flesh sources. They also have a cool history, as they were developed by the Incas and Aztecs. Read more about my two favorite grains at good ol' wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth


They're very easy to prepare, 1 cup of grain to 1.5/2 cups water, bring to a boil then simmer on low heat for about 15 minutes, or until the water is absorbed. Quinoa should be rinsed first, though this probably isn't necessary with most varieties found at the store. I buy them in bulk. Yesterday I made a batch of delightful breakfast cereal with 1 cup quinoa and 1 cup amaranth, one diced apple, about a cup of rasins, about a half cup chopped almonds, a teasponfull cinnamon and a splash of goat milk, one of my favorite beverages. Bring the grains to a boil then simmer for 5 minutes, then add your fuit and nuts and cinnamon and simmer for another 15 minutes or so.

I hadn't thought about the prospect of frozen versus "fresh" veggies in wintertime phi, interesting.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: daimyo]
    #6042248 - 09/08/06 09:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Grill up some artificially colored red fish meal fed PCB/DDT laden "farm" fresh frozen salmon. Sprinkle some sliced almonds on the top when done. Voila, salmon almondine. Yummy!

Cut in half some red potatoes to grill along with the salmon. Garnish with fresh parsley when finished. Voila, parsley potatoes!

Slice up an eggplant into 3/4" slices and put some olive oil on them and a little sugar and pepper. Cook on the same grill. I like to cook them up nice and crispy brown on the outside and mushy on the inside. Or substitute zucchini or yellow squash in half if you don't like eggplant.

Put it all on your plate with a sliced red ripe fresh tomato and enjoy!


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #6043732 - 09/09/06 11:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Shroomism - Anywhere to buy hemp seeds? Legally or not.

Viveka - Interesting stuff. I will be looking further into those grains today.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: daimyo]
    #6044493 - 09/09/06 04:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say before investing in a diet, I'd invest in a long fast, I know you have weight training, but you can postphone that for your health,

fasting has many recooperating and cleansing benefits to it, also when you eventually go back to eatting, you'll be more aware of the foods that make your body healthier, its a good start when trying to figure out a diet,


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: daimyo]
    #6044576 - 09/09/06 05:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yep.. of course.. hemp products are illegal to sell in the US, because our government has its head up its ass.. but it is legal to purchase and have imported.

Click here for more complete info about the miraculous hemp seed - http://www.ratical.org/renewables/hempseed2.html

And here's hemp food from Canada - http://www.rawganique.com/Food.htm

Also Viveka.. good stuff about quinoa and amaranth. I had completely forgetten about those wonderful grains. Thanks for reminding me! :cheers:


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: capliberty]
    #6046228 - 09/10/06 11:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I thought about a fast, but, as you know, I lift. I could probably spare a few days, or maybe a week though.


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Re: Alright You Hippies and Green Eaters, Gimmie Some Recipes [Re: daimyo]
    #6047463 - 09/10/06 07:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've never liked the idea of the traditional fast.. where you don't eat anything and only drink water. To me it just seems like why would you want to starve your body like that? :shrug:

My idea of a fast to cleanse toxins from the system, is just eat fresh, raw, fruit and nothing but fruit for 3-7 days. Drinking fresh fruit juices, and tons and tons of water. All the different acids in the fruit help to cleanse the system, not to mention fruit is 80% water. And fruit contains tons of antioxidants, essential vitamins, and fiber.. it's the ideal cleansing food. So you're getting cleaned the fuck out from the inside, you're getting plenty of your important vitamins.. and fiber which is important always..


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