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Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality
    #5976394 - 08/18/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slaw1tYDPFc&eurl=

Fucking pigs shoot at unarmed, peaceful protesters with rubber bullets, then share a good laugh about it later.

Disgusting.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #5976805 - 08/18/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The whole thing was on ABC news?


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #5978317 - 08/19/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe they shouldnt illegally protest and disrupt daily life for everyone else, and they wont get shot with rubber bullets.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: WhiteRabbitt]
    #5978740 - 08/19/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i know if i gave a shit about something enough to protest and someone shot me i would be in jail for killing some cops


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: tak]
    #5979021 - 08/19/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, so you are admitting that you are illogical and irrational?


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: WhiteRabbitt]
    #5979061 - 08/19/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This brings up a story to mind a posted on this forum a while ago, about how when I went to an iraq war protest in 2005 in washington DC, we were told to bring young children so the police would not try to harm any of us in fear of hurting a child. well, the same thing happened, rubber bullets were used, and my younger (7 year old) sister was shot in the back and i told her to run to the car. everyone started running and i got shot twice in the back of the head and just dropped on the ground, to sort of make a statement. people were screamingly enraged at the barrage of bullets on their children but no one fought it in fear of there child's safety.

these police sicken me. if i were one of them, i would have taken my gun and started shooting other police with it.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: WhiteRabbitt]
    #5979094 - 08/19/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Where do you get that it was an "illegal" protest?

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: Redstorm]
    #5979143 - 08/19/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

fucking pigs.  :glittershitz:


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: WhiteRabbitt]
    #5980124 - 08/19/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay, so you are admitting that you are illogical and irrational?




Yes. If you are trying to make changes diplomatically, and the people you may be rightfully speaking out against start shooting weapons at you, unarmed....I think it is your duty to fight.

This is our country, our home. We have the right to change, and otherthrow the government when we feel necesary. If the systems designed to do so get corrupted, then yes it is sometimes necesary to use force to take what is ours.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: tak]
    #5980155 - 08/19/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I beleive it's illogical and irrational to shoot people trying to make positive change in the country you live in. I also believe its illogical and irrational to shoot a child, rubber bullets or not.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #5980177 - 08/19/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pigs and hippies have never been a good mix


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #5980418 - 08/19/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

what tough guys. pigs are disgusting

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5980797 - 08/20/06 02:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I also believe its illogical and irrational to shoot a child, rubber bullets or not.




I would be one to think that it is irrational to bring children to a scene, expecting a violent confrontation, intending on using the children as a means to shield oneself from such confrontation. Such an act demonstrates that one is less concerned for the children's well-being than for one's own.

I recognize no difference between this and terrorists in the Middle East, who surround themselves with women and children as they perpetuate violence themselves. If you bring a child to a demonstration that is bound to get violent (one wouldn't bring them if they didn't expect that it would, based on the motivations that were described in a previous reply), it is you that is responsible for any harm the child receives, just as it is the responsibility of participants of war for civilian causalities if they purposely surround themselves with civilians, fully aware that they are engaged in war.

Having said that, it would be irrational to purposely shoot a child, rubber bullet or not... well, unless the child had the plauge, or was a zombie, or something. :lol:

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5983021 - 08/21/06 04:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I also believe its illogical and irrational to shoot a child, rubber bullets or not.




I would be one to think that it is irrational to bring children to a scene, expecting a violent confrontation, intending on using the children as a means to shield oneself from such confrontation. Such an act demonstrates that one is less concerned for the children's well-being than for one's own.

I recognize no difference between this and terrorists in the Middle East, who surround themselves with women and children as they perpetuate violence themselves.




Terrorists are there to kill innocent people. The protesters are there to protest and can only hope that they won't be attacked by your savage government.


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maybe they shouldn't illegally protest and disrupt daily life for everyone else, and they wont get shot with rubber bullets.



I think it's telling that in the land of the free and free speech there is such a thing as an illegal protest.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5983053 - 08/21/06 05:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

first, there should always be a plan if police fire a gun...it should be in the flyers and therefor the police will know the first action of your group.

in this flyer it should be made clear your peaceful.
camera men should be EVERYWHERE.
signs should be EVERYWHERE.

its should be very clear you mean no harm and do no harm.

at the same time....you should have a statement that says hey you fire on us....we will fire back and ours won't be rubber.

and as a procausion have a hidden, unknown group of people with sniper rifles in a buildings everywhere.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5983103 - 08/21/06 06:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah right that will work. Then you'll have the military at the next protest. It would do the whole peaceful protest idea a disservice.
On a side note; military should never do police work otherwise you're close to martial law. And that's what the military is doing increasingly nowadays.

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5984911 - 08/21/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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maybe they shouldnt illegally protest and disrupt daily life for everyone else, and they wont get shot with rubber bullets.




protesting should never be illegal unless it is a direct disruption of safety. not hypothetical doublespeak safety....

i.e. "free speech zones" is basically suppression of the free voice by removing any and all power of protest.

look at Martin Luther King and his massive marches, that shit probably wouldn't be legal now, but that stuff is the exact kind of stuff we need (peaceful mass marches making a jarrying wakeup call to daily life) in order for our voices to work.
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This is our country, our home. We have the right to change, and otherthrow the government when we feel necesary. If the systems designed to do so get corrupted, then yes it is sometimes necesary to use force to take what is ours.



if a system is corrupted you can't use the system to fix itself.

as demonstrated if "free speech" becomes unlawful then what you can you do but break laws that shouldn't exist in the first place? it's not like peaceful protest is in any way dangerous. perhaps massive congestion of people can at times pose risks to daily living though.
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I think it's telling that in the land of the free and free speech there is such a thing as an illegal protest.




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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: leery11]
    #5985070 - 08/21/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Remember the hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL immigrants marching in the streets? Not only did the police NOT arrest them, for actually breaking a law, they closed down major roads, and kept counter protesters at bay.

Dozens of law abiding white people are not allowed to protest it seems, but hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are almost encouraged.(and they carried Mexican flags!) This is outrageous.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5985628 - 08/22/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

because americans only care about itself, and immigrants....well in the gerneral eye and there teletubbies don't know jack....so sure crazy peeps can march.

but when someone respected in the least bit speaks out....another story.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5987051 - 08/22/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Remember the hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL immigrants marching in the streets? Not only did the police NOT arrest them, for actually breaking a law, they closed down major roads, and kept counter protesters at bay.

Dozens of law abiding white people are not allowed to protest it seems, but hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are almost encouraged.(and they carried Mexican flags!) This is outrageous.




that's a good point! the funny thing is i bet illegal immigrants would be more "dangerous" than the common pacified white man, too. not because of their illegal status, just because white Americans are so spoonfed by authority.......

(and maybe they were afraid of violent retalliation, whereas they know they can shoot a few white people with rubber bullets and the white people will just go "hey don't shoot us!")


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5987203 - 08/22/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Remember the hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL immigrants marching in the streets? Not only did the police NOT arrest them, for actually breaking a law, they closed down major roads, and kept counter protesters at bay.

Dozens of law abiding white people are not allowed to protest it seems, but hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are almost encouraged.(and they carried Mexican flags!) This is outrageous.




Wasnt this in Miami? What White people. :lol:

Also last i heard White supremists groups dont get shot by rubber bullets.I dont think can you link this rubber bullet incident with the conspiracy against whites. Which i think exists to a small extent.But the encourgment of illegal imigantes is not a conspiracy against whites. Those who seek cheap labor and to destroy the American middle class could care less if it was Mexicans or Blonde haired blued folk as long as they work for cheap.

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5988770 - 08/23/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
Remember the hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL immigrants marching in the streets? Not only did the police NOT arrest them, for actually breaking a law, they closed down major roads, and kept counter protesters at bay.

Dozens of law abiding white people are not allowed to protest it seems, but hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are almost encouraged.(and they carried Mexican flags!) This is outrageous.



I think this is probably due to how different states handle the issue.

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: leery11]
    #5989984 - 08/23/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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protesting should never be illegal unless it is a direct disruption of safety. not hypothetical doublespeak safety....




So hordes of idiots should be allowed to crowd and flood busy commuter routes and freeway entrances, and all in the name of some masturbatory, useless cause like insisting that I elect a Democrat instead of a Republican?

If you want to make a statement today, throw some bait to the media. Everyone seems to form their homes and lives around their televisions. Hey, there's always blogging, look what it did for Snakes on a Plane!

Should a protest be allowed if it impedes the liberty of others, ie: my ability to travel from my place of work to home relatively quickly, not having to spend hours sitting in an idling car? Is it not a tyranny of that minority of protestors to force mass amounts of commuters to be subject to the logisitcal ramifications of their protesting activities? Or what of the majority tyranny imposed on the impressionable minds of young "punk rock" concert goers who are goaded by charismatic jerks to not, not vote Democrat. And they're not saying who to vote for, they're just saying, don't vote like your parents(if your parents are Republican), because "the right is making the rich richer and the poor poorer". See, I can be hyperbolous too, just like an idiot holding a sign, shouting slogans at anybody who passes by.

Not to take this off-topic, but vote third party!

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: Viveka]
    #5990885 - 08/23/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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protesting should never be illegal unless it is a direct disruption of safety. not hypothetical doublespeak safety....




So hordes of idiots should be allowed to crowd and flood busy commuter routes and freeway entrances, and all in the name of some masturbatory, useless cause like insisting that I elect a Democrat instead of a Republican?

If you want to make a statement today, throw some bait to the media. Everyone seems to form their homes and lives around their televisions. Hey, there's always blogging, look what it did for Snakes on a Plane!

Should a protest be allowed if it impedes the liberty of others, ie: my ability to travel from my place of work to home relatively quickly, not having to spend hours sitting in an idling car? Is it not a tyranny of that minority of protestors to force mass amounts of commuters to be subject to the logisitcal ramifications of their protesting activities? Or what of the majority tyranny imposed on the impressionable minds of young "punk rock" concert goers who are goaded by charismatic jerks to not, not vote Democrat. And they're not saying who to vote for, they're just saying, don't vote like your parents(if your parents are Republican), because "the right is making the rich richer and the poor poorer". See, I can be hyperbolous too, just like an idiot holding a sign, shouting slogans at anybody who passes by.

Not to take this off-topic, but vote third party!




This is really dependent. Protest restrictions should be rare and dones hesitantly...... there isn't a good reason to block off traffic, etc, and i would agree with keeping that.

i'm afraid i do not know much about the dynamics of protests. say 1 milion potheads congregated to legalize marijuana. they are only effective as a unit and would have to have some sort of march..... any time you can rally a million people you know their cause is damn important (to them) and they need to be allowed the freedom of speech to express it.

explicitly banning all sorts of protests with force is problematic, but protests should not also cripple the areas that they occur in.

i don't disagree with you though.

yes vote third party.


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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: leery11]
    #5991337 - 08/23/06 11:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes.  And as usual, personal accountability is the guiding principle.        Ideally, anyone participating would be as aware as possible of the totality of their actions.  But even then, rebellion is what it is. 

I sure don't advocate the state squashing protest, but thanks to herd mentality and ignorance, the wrong boundaries are often crossed and the law gets involved.  Or, because they're just dicks which of course is very common.

"Viva le Revolucion" or whatever all you want. 

Just don't shoot anybody.

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Re: Protester Shot with Rubber Bullets Shows Police Disconnect, Brutality [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #6107841 - 09/27/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

people these days are ran by choises, so called choises cause you are forced to choose em, like you hve a choise to be a cop, mabe its something u wanted to be since a little boy, but dont forget we are all human and when we think nobody is watching we may do things that can be mabe disturbing or weird for our own pleasure. we are all bein controlled, by people wearing sertain clothing hat represents a sertain level in the social world like suits and tuxes that to us means wow hes dressed nicely thats bull shit because people need to be free, i bet if he had a mohawk it wouldnt be the same would it? people would hate and say bad things like hes a bum n shit! because thats how we are trained to think, and in the other hand a creative person is now lower in life well i will fight back.


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