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does anyone feel 'further along' than most people?
    #5975275 - 08/18/06 06:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ive always had this intuition/mindset (not by choice) for some time. its changes and comes in different forms like a rising tide, but its always there.
i know other people feel it too.. but i didnt know to what extent.

yesterday i was at a party and somehow the subject was brought up. me and these 2 girls started talking and suddenly we all started saying the same things.. and we knew what we eachother was talking about.

one girl said "shit.. the fact that were having this conversation is just crazy.. i thought it was just me."

it was cool then because we each started talking about our own pieces that we discovered in our individual minds, and it helped to create a little bit larger picture.

im wondering if anyone else has the feeling (im going to describe it in a sec).
-what do you think about it?
-what do you think it's from?
-is there a name for this sort of thing..?  im sure someone somewhere called it something, and its EXACTLY what i'm talking about.
-how many people do you think feel this way..?

ok now the mind structure/thoughts. ill speak from my perspective. btw, i dont think i gained this from tripping, i think the other way is true. it seems people with this 'insight' often like tripping wayy more than other people. who knows though, it could be from tripping.

bascially the thoughts within my head, my actual cognitive connections/feelings, internally are pretty introspective. and its funny because the entire it.. the thing within, is a paradox. its a paradox i guess because the second you try and think about it it nullifies. its almost like i feel 'further along' in the path. im quite introspective, and _it feels like im always conscious of my actions_.
pretend that the next human evolutionary step is soon.. it would feel like im almost one of those offshoots.

i like everyday media MTV type stuff.. but sometimes i just cant get into it. its like it's 'below' me. i mean i DO enjoy it, and i dont mean below as in a worse way.. just farther behind on the path then where i am.. does this make sense?
and other times i think im going crazy, but then i remind myself that its ok.. and obviously im not. plus people who go crazy dont know it.

im in college though so i dont usually think about 'it'. i learned that the answer is being here now, and then the paradox doesn't exist :wink: i love to go out and hang with everyone, it isn't as if it rules me.
it was just so crazy meeting someone who also 'knew.'


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975286 - 08/18/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

2 more things.

-im sure everyone feels this way.. but some choose to talk about it/thinkg about it more/ignore it. what do you think?
if thats the case.. then that means the people who it seems are 'further behind' are actually farther ahead because they can easily deal with it and act in 'this world' with out it appearing like theyre conscious of it.

-it actually helped yesterday. she said 'i feel like im awlays conscious of my actions.' i realized that this describes how i feel a lot of the time perfectly, and it sucks. im always worried other people can tell.. but it helped seeing HER say that, and seeing HER vibe and realizing it doesnt look like that at all.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975290 - 08/18/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i just realized that the simple fact that i think im 'further along' could very well mean im actually way behind.. :undecided:


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975296 - 08/18/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Now you got it. Don't let the fact that there exists a beginning and end signify that life is a race...it most surely is not.

You who choose to lead, must follow.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975297 - 08/18/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean, and have had the same "am I further along" thoughts at these before.

Maybe you feeling "way behind" instead of "further along" is a low point in the rising tide you spoke of? Or maybe its natures way of forcing you back on path because we shouldn't be "futher along."

Plenty of ways to take this, haha. I like it.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975303 - 08/18/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Could you describe this feeling any better?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #5975304 - 08/18/06 07:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

pretend that the next human evolutionary step is soon.. it would feel like im almost one of those offshoots.

i hear you on this

I definately feel the same way that you are describing
There is definately a change occuring and I can feel it


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: NewAgeDiciple]
    #5975307 - 08/18/06 07:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

from this corner I must see things in a different way than that person in that corner.

vantage points, each have something different to offer. we are each in a different place like plants in a garden.

What this thread does highlight is the lowest common denominator that we may suffer which is dualistical thinking and one dimensional value judments in the face of all this natural multiplicity.

maybe we forget
multiplicity does not need to be solved or evaluated.

it is like being in an amazing garden: this much more liberating than the burden of dualistic thinking and one dimensional evaluations

(further along, suggests a linear approach and a single path nature, but a line is a one dimensional construct, the garden is at least 3 dimensional, so unless you are a worm (too), being further along in any particular single direction is just deeper into a tunnel of poop).


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5975311 - 08/18/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What this thread does highlight is the lowest common denominator that we may suffer which is dualistical thinking and one dimensional value judments in the face of all this natural multiplicity.





What do you mean by "dualistic thinking"? You mean the tendency of people to view things in black-or-white terms?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5975312 - 08/18/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Could you describe this feeling any better?




you would know it if you felt it. i can try though..

its pretty much paradoxical. it just IS.. um, its hard to describe. if youve ever encountered paradoxes in your introspection, i assume this is the one. its hard to miss lol.
the second you think about it it automatically places a judgment which taints it. i dunno, whatever :o


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5975313 - 08/18/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What this thread does highlight is the lowest common denominator that we may suffer which is dualistical thinking and one dimensional value judments in the face of all this natural multiplicity.





What do you mean by "dualistic thinking"? You mean the tendency of people to view things in black-or-white terms?




the funny thing is ive known its dualistic, but then fuck all thats just more of the paradox. i cant describe how its dualistic either.. but i can feel it.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975317 - 08/18/06 07:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, for me, the more perspectives one has, the further along some one is.

Thats a real simple way of putting it but, I feel, not in some paternalistic way, but in a gracious and appreciative way that I am "further along" than many of my friends.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: BlindLemon]
    #5975319 - 08/18/06 07:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ok i was typing a resonse but my battery died and i lost it..

i said i think i somewhat figured out why its dualistical. because the mind can only percieve, think of things as is or isn't. not in a conscious way, but in the very way the mind works.. and the thing youre trying to think about can't be brought down into these terms, so the very act of thinking about it makes it void.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: BlindLemon]
    #5975321 - 08/18/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Yea, for me, the more perspectives one has, the further along some one is.

Thats a real simple way of putting it but, I feel, not in some paternalistic way, but in a gracious and appreciative way that I am "further along" than many of my friends.




this seems like a good point


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975432 - 08/18/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. That's a very good point.

It's fun to try and quantify abstract concepts, isn't it?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' - do you you mean a head or their behind? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5975479 - 08/18/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What this thread does highlight is the lowest common denominator that we may suffer which is dualistical thinking and one dimensional value judments in the face of all this natural multiplicity.





What do you mean by "dualistic thinking"? You mean the tendency of people to view things in black-or-white terms?




more or less advanced,
this is linear
if any direction is chosen
a position can be measured along that line
so one may be further ahead or behind,
ergo a one dimensional domain.

rather than black or white, it is behind or ahead
and that is a fundamentally dualistic evaluation.


and if it is true in any way
it is only true in that way
every other direction has to be evaluated separately

it would be an endless task
not very fullfilling either.

one is very likely to lose purchase (status, or relative position of ahead or behind) along one's particularly advanced directions while
chasing other ones....


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975524 - 08/18/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I believe the feeling of 'being further along' is shared by nearly everyone I meet. Whether they actually are or not is subjective, but don't let a lack of communication fool you into thinking that others don't possess these feelings.

I believe it's a generational trait, and is caused by comparing ourselves to our parents and older generations. We are generation Y, the Echo Boomers. Our parents grew up in the 60s where sexism, racism and ignorance were everywhere and affected everyone. Generation X was tainted with despair and apathy. Products of broken homes and threatened with nuclear holocausts, the future they perceived was bleak and uninviting. We're the first generation to really recover from the great wars of the 20th century, and we've been given a pretty easy ride so far.

We see all the faults our parents have made – working too much, no sense of fun, broken marriages etc. – but we’ve also had the chance to see what happens when things swing the opposite way with generation X – still being single at 30, stuck in shitty jobs because they didn’t care about they’re education, going no where. The general formula for life has become much more balanced and dynamic with our generation, and we’ve been instilled with universal morals that we often take for granted.

Maybe you really are further along then everyone else, but besides inflating your ego, what does that label achieve? If anything it’s going to have a negative effect. People are going to perceive you as arrogant, and because you ‘think’ you know best, you’re not going to pick up on other’s good ideas. IMO, you're wasting thought cycles that could be better spent elsewhere.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975557 - 08/18/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

it could be more highly evolved intelligence...

or it could be simply that you always tend to question things before accepting them at face value... therefore you haven't been hung up on as many 'cheap' things in life as others

I often feel the same way... in no way not 'better' than someone else, but further along... tripping has definitely caused a lot of it though.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: kake]
    #5975866 - 08/18/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i should clarify that i dont htink im better. this isnt inflating my ego. in fact, i feel joy when im able to put it behind me and just BE and realize we are all the same


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975902 - 08/18/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I also have this same sense, and almost feel egotistical or conceited for having it. Its not that I think I'm better or smarted, just wiser?? I don't know how to explain it.

I certainly notice that my friends who are open to shrooms are often more likewise in the sense. Many people I know who totally hate shrooms and their high, have a very narrow perspective of the world. This isn't true for all cases, I know many jerks who take them just because they alter their mind state. They don't care where the alteration takes them, as long as its away from sober.

I am working on picking up an OZ tonight, but I have to drive a good 45 minutes to get it. Oh well, it will be well worth it! :smile:


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975954 - 08/18/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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i like everyday media MTV type stuff.. but sometimes i just cant get into it. its like it's 'below' me. i mean i DO enjoy it, and i dont mean below as in a worse way.. just farther behind on the path then where i am.. does this make sense?
and other times i think im going crazy, but then i remind myself that its ok.. and obviously im not. i learned that the answer is being here now, and then the paradox doesn't exist :wink:




Don't worry, you aren't crazy.  Either the world as a whole is getting dumber with the years, or the media is reaching deeper into the dregs of stupidity and making the natural human inclination towards animal passions more apparent.  BUT just because you are aware of this is no reason to get cocky, young padawan!  You are most certainly not the only one who caught on to foolishness, the baseness, of average human existence.  And many of those who have awakened have gone further than just to feel superior (though, I daresay, there is that  :wink:).  They developed practices and philosophies to help themselves and others awaken further and more fully.  Just because you are an initiate does not mean you are a master, and I highly doubt that you are
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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Ereignis]
    #5976547 - 08/18/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i feel something like this, but i dont really make it aparent. i dont flout the fact that im superior in any way.

its an odd feeling, this "further along". it makes me feel like im the one supposed to start the conversation with the cocky 50 year old man. like im the one who wants something for someone else, even when they are 30 years older then me. im 20 and the 50 year old guy needs me to help him, not with yard work but with spiritual psychological work.

i do know that i am still capable of expanding, and will always be expanding, so its not like ive accomplshed.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Maitereya]
    #5977588 - 08/19/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps I should start by acknowledging that I can comprehend the general premise of this thread. With that said, I have a few commends and questions. I look forward to replies, both critical and otherwise.

I find “further ahead” to be a somewhat arrogant way of putting something so subjective. Most here seem to agree that it's not an egotistical emotion, however, and perhaps “different tastes” would be a fitting substitute. Many examples thus far seems to be of opinions, and an opinion is what it is. While I admit some opinions border on “clearly unethical,” this does not include enjoying various television shows. I would classify that as a matter of taste more than anything.

There is almost no opinion I'm absolutely certain I'll never take as my own some day, and perhaps when I think I'm “ahead” I am really behind. It's just a social thought-circle; how can you really tell who's “ahead?” Everyone's just of different opinions, enjoying different things, and more experienced in different parts of life—all at their own pace and time. I would consider myself seriously lacking in emotional stability, and certainly classify myself as “behind.” If you were to meet me on an emotionally bad day, I may seem like the most mentally lacking person you've ever met. This would be unjust, as one mental flaw does not handicap my entire psyche.

At the same time, I seriously enjoy classical music. So much so that I don't often listen to much else, with the occasional metal, indie, classical rock, and techno thrown in, but only summing perhaps 5% of my total music listening. Concerning my friends, every single one I've turned on to classical has an extremely bitter outlook towards those who dislike it. Some have even displayed an arrogance that is unpractical to put up with in a friend. But music is music. There is absolutely nothing that makes Bach better in any way than Eminem outside arrogant opinions. They're simply different, and appeal to different tastes.

If you saw someone wearing bell bottoms today, wouldn't they be “behind?” Behind the times, behind on style, behind in general. Bell bottoms are from the 70's (?). But who's to say five years from now, bell bottoms won't make a drastic comeback. Would that not make this person, simultaneously, ahead and behind? Or, perhaps they're simply ahead.

I don't mean to be arrogant anywhere, and apologize if I have come off that way. Trying to put in words MY own opinions is a difficult task for me.

P.S. I admit I often do feel “ahead,” even sometimes arrogantly, of people due to my psychedelic drug (ab)use. I generally consider this a character flaw of mine, mostly because of the arrogance.

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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: keithdn]
    #5977863 - 08/19/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

at dinner my friend was discussing how he was accellerated past grade 3 as a kid. (put a year ahead, skipping a grade)
my younger brother was held back in grade 3 with crossed eyes and a slower reader.

this friend truly believes he is "evolutionarily" more advanced.
contrast that with
my brother who has committed suicide.

both IMO have been chronically depressed.
both are no different from me, though I don't think I would qualify (probably due to "recreational" drug use and meditation).

on the subway I see people mumbling and murmuring to themselves
I imagine the text of their murmuring to be
"mama.... mama... mama...."

people seem to wish to be advanced out of their predicaments.
the input is too much
a better brain
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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5977891 - 08/19/06 06:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5977895 - 08/19/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

no that is just a writing style


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5977923 - 08/19/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?




yes, and it hasnt gone away. that has been a thorn in my side for so long. its an emptiness that i just sorta learn to deal with.. shroom smake it go away though.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5977934 - 08/19/06 07:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Why compare yourself to others?

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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5978806 - 08/19/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?




yes, and it hasnt gone away. that has been a thorn in my side for so long. its an emptiness that i just sorta learn to deal with.. shroom smake it go away though.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5979702 - 08/19/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I used to think along these lines. I've personally decided that it's not really something worth pondering. I mean, it is good to accept the fact that you do tend to look at things differently than most. Its a good thing to get out of the way. I spent a lot of time just thinking and very little ot show for it, except maybe some small personal insights. Instead of thinking about how other people are like robots, or how uninteresting they are, I made sure that I wasn't associated with them. I quit driving a car (my parents previously bought a car for me to share with my brother, but I never use it anymore) I ride my bike instead. I avoid purchasing anything new if I dont have to, to avoid consumerism and the rise in the split between rich and poor, mass production in china, etc. I try to buy food localy rather than from huge corperations that put little farmers out of business. I'm not saying I'm perfect or anything, but why not try to do your best and act on the things that you've been thinking about so much? If you really do care, act on that.

Essentially I said to myself, sure, I do look at the world in a different way than a lot of people. Also, if anyone is going to make a difference, or do something new, or lead people, it is going to be somebody who feels like they have something new to share, like me. I enjoy life more since I took up the viewpoint. Another thing to consider is that in every generation there are people that make large changes in society and people that don't. If I really care about what is going in our society, I should do my best to make a difference and try to help. It is a whole other issue dealing with how to help, but yeah, that is a whole other issue.

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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: entre]
    #5982005 - 08/20/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I feel this way all the time. I am in no way arrogant. I believe that a majority of people have no idea what they are doing with themselves throughout the day. I'm betting that almost everyone registered with this site has felt this way about society. No matter how wasted or high I get myself, I always put everyone else before me. I care more about making others happy than pleasing myself. I am always aware of my actions. I have never "blacked out". There has to be much more to humanity than what meets the eye. Look at the technological advancements we have made in the last 100 years and then you look at the spiritual and social advances and tell me we have evolved. It is sad and depressing to think that we as a race have the technology to cure many of lifes diseases and yet we choose not to because of religious reasons?! Or we spend 2 billion dollars on an aircraft whose sole purpose is destruction.

Maybe we are indeed more in touch with "life" than the rest of society. I am glad to see that so many feel the same way. What ever happened to caring about what you do and how it affects those around you? What will happen that day when our humanity eventually surpasses our technology; will we be the rulers?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5982780 - 08/20/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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550c said:
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Limelight said:
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550c said:
do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?




yes, and it hasnt gone away. that has been a thorn in my side for so long. its an emptiness that i just sorta learn to deal with.. shroom smake it go away though.


What are you like when youre drunk?




I'm the exact same way. It has not always been like this, and I'm not sure exactly what made it come about. I feel so detached from my emotions, it's crazy. I have learned to deal with it though, but I can tell it is slowly eating away at me.

About the drinking, I feel great when I partake in such things. I don't do it often though, maybe a few times a year? But I feel awesome when I do drink. So... alive.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: ekornmeyer]
    #5982891 - 08/21/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've felt similiar, but my low self esteem generally suggests to me that I am left behind.

Although in a manner not much unlike the original poster I have come to the personal tastes of not enjoying many of the force-fed media such as Mtv.

Slightly in-tune with the idea, but perhaps not in agreement with others, I have felt that alchohol is detrimental to my cognitive ability and have grown a preference for consciousness altering drugs.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Wasteland]
    #5983841 - 08/21/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

buahahaha...
I dunno, i never feel smart per se, sometimes I just feel the rest of the world is stupid... now I say lots of stupid shit and do stupid shit and think of myself as stupid, responding to this at 4:18am is kinda stupid, bit delerious, bound to go off on tangeents and probably not answer your question...

to be honest FIIK what you're on about though, i mean if it's anything other than a feeling of superiority of your amazing intellect over the dumbass masses. Really hard to understand what you mean as well I dunno - not the best way of explaining it.

The finishing each others sentences thing sounds great, very romantic, dunno what that has to do with 'being further along the path', was this some kind of telepathic experience or just a freaky occurence? and.. can you really answer that? I've had pseudo-telepathic experiecnes but am myself unsure of their validity.

mmm in any case, Whenever I feel superior to others I'd usually have some hillarious karmik kick in the nuts from god to restore the humble nature i hope i have. Talking about my tripping experiences, especially with mushrooms I've had some profound spiritual experiences, spiritual in the sense they shatter my perception of reality and make me re-evaluate my whole view of the universe and other experiences that i could only guess are like reconnecting consciously to the collective mind. ... hehe I was just about to go into length about the experiences and my interpretations but, i wont.. obviously. Anyway the point I'm making is... I've found in myself a tendency to have an elitist view that I've got a better idea than some other folks, but I know we all have plenty to learn from each other. THe only reason I guess is.. well it's hard to describe some things to other people and have them understand what you mean, you may consider them stupid, but really its me and my inability to explain yeah :smile:.. and some people are fucktards and really stupid.

Sometimes I get a feeling that every1 knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about, it's all been said before, there's no point saying it, it's either repetitive and boring or pretentious and full of wank or some other paranoid insecure delusion... BUt I've come to realise that... well we all only really know a small tiny bit of information or ideas about the small tiny bit of the universe that interests us, so every contribution that allows information to ... multiply is... excellent, fuck I'm tired, not sure what I'm on about.

Hmmm.. we all experience this subjectively, as such we are the most importnat person in our lives, everything is experienced through us, and we know everything through us, who else would have a better experience of reality than... me? well anyway I know better what I'm talking about.. at one point I had an alien encounter where they told me the secrets of the universe and such... but i forgot my pen :laugh:

point is, we all need a sense of self importance and that. I believe you when you say you're on the forefront of human evolution. As are we all. Hmmm I think a special place is reserved in the mind to those experiencing something divine, that which is beyond words, unexplainable, hence remaining a secret mystery - those of us privvy to these special mysteries are better than the fools comatose in their dream of reality... But we're not really, we just know which drugs to take :wink:

Anyhow the fact you can't explain this feeling makes me believe it's Only the 'feeling' u speak of. I mean you cannot 'prove' you are further along with any sort of.. mm say philosophy or theory, nothing 'real' -  for us at least, only the 'feeling' you had yeah?

I dunno how to answer this question really?

It's like:
"Hey do you ever feel like you are smarter than every1 else?"

- the point is i can never know if i am more 'evolved' than ANY1 else as I am no1 esle apart from myself. I may feel further along, but that's just my ego inflating.


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I'm the Dude. So that's what you  call me.  That, or Duder.  His  Dudeness.
Or El Duderino, if, you know, you're not into the whole brevity thing.


Edited by el_duderino (08/21/06 01:13 PM)


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