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OfflineEreignis
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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5975954 - 08/18/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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i like everyday media MTV type stuff.. but sometimes i just cant get into it. its like it's 'below' me. i mean i DO enjoy it, and i dont mean below as in a worse way.. just farther behind on the path then where i am.. does this make sense?
and other times i think im going crazy, but then i remind myself that its ok.. and obviously im not. i learned that the answer is being here now, and then the paradox doesn't exist :wink:




Don't worry, you aren't crazy.  Either the world as a whole is getting dumber with the years, or the media is reaching deeper into the dregs of stupidity and making the natural human inclination towards animal passions more apparent.  BUT just because you are aware of this is no reason to get cocky, young padawan!  You are most certainly not the only one who caught on to foolishness, the baseness, of average human existence.  And many of those who have awakened have gone further than just to feel superior (though, I daresay, there is that  :wink:).  They developed practices and philosophies to help themselves and others awaken further and more fully.  Just because you are an initiate does not mean you are a master, and I highly doubt that you are
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.  If you really want to become a god, it will take years of practice and dedication to the challenge of training your mind and strengthening your spirit.  I encourage you to try, I am sure you would do well!


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Ereignis]
    #5976547 - 08/18/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i feel something like this, but i dont really make it aparent. i dont flout the fact that im superior in any way.

its an odd feeling, this "further along". it makes me feel like im the one supposed to start the conversation with the cocky 50 year old man. like im the one who wants something for someone else, even when they are 30 years older then me. im 20 and the 50 year old guy needs me to help him, not with yard work but with spiritual psychological work.

i do know that i am still capable of expanding, and will always be expanding, so its not like ive accomplshed.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Maitereya]
    #5977588 - 08/19/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps I should start by acknowledging that I can comprehend the general premise of this thread. With that said, I have a few commends and questions. I look forward to replies, both critical and otherwise.

I find “further ahead” to be a somewhat arrogant way of putting something so subjective. Most here seem to agree that it's not an egotistical emotion, however, and perhaps “different tastes” would be a fitting substitute. Many examples thus far seems to be of opinions, and an opinion is what it is. While I admit some opinions border on “clearly unethical,” this does not include enjoying various television shows. I would classify that as a matter of taste more than anything.

There is almost no opinion I'm absolutely certain I'll never take as my own some day, and perhaps when I think I'm “ahead” I am really behind. It's just a social thought-circle; how can you really tell who's “ahead?” Everyone's just of different opinions, enjoying different things, and more experienced in different parts of life—all at their own pace and time. I would consider myself seriously lacking in emotional stability, and certainly classify myself as “behind.” If you were to meet me on an emotionally bad day, I may seem like the most mentally lacking person you've ever met. This would be unjust, as one mental flaw does not handicap my entire psyche.

At the same time, I seriously enjoy classical music. So much so that I don't often listen to much else, with the occasional metal, indie, classical rock, and techno thrown in, but only summing perhaps 5% of my total music listening. Concerning my friends, every single one I've turned on to classical has an extremely bitter outlook towards those who dislike it. Some have even displayed an arrogance that is unpractical to put up with in a friend. But music is music. There is absolutely nothing that makes Bach better in any way than Eminem outside arrogant opinions. They're simply different, and appeal to different tastes.

If you saw someone wearing bell bottoms today, wouldn't they be “behind?” Behind the times, behind on style, behind in general. Bell bottoms are from the 70's (?). But who's to say five years from now, bell bottoms won't make a drastic comeback. Would that not make this person, simultaneously, ahead and behind? Or, perhaps they're simply ahead.

I don't mean to be arrogant anywhere, and apologize if I have come off that way. Trying to put in words MY own opinions is a difficult task for me.

P.S. I admit I often do feel “ahead,” even sometimes arrogantly, of people due to my psychedelic drug (ab)use. I generally consider this a character flaw of mine, mostly because of the arrogance.

Best wishes,
Keith N


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: keithdn]
    #5977863 - 08/19/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

at dinner my friend was discussing how he was accellerated past grade 3 as a kid. (put a year ahead, skipping a grade)
my younger brother was held back in grade 3 with crossed eyes and a slower reader.

this friend truly believes he is "evolutionarily" more advanced.
contrast that with
my brother who has committed suicide.

both IMO have been chronically depressed.
both are no different from me, though I don't think I would qualify (probably due to "recreational" drug use and meditation).

on the subway I see people mumbling and murmuring to themselves
I imagine the text of their murmuring to be
"mama.... mama... mama...."

people seem to wish to be advanced out of their predicaments.
the input is too much
a better brain
might help

if only.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5977891 - 08/19/06 06:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5977895 - 08/19/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

no that is just a writing style


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5977923 - 08/19/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?




yes, and it hasnt gone away. that has been a thorn in my side for so long. its an emptiness that i just sorta learn to deal with.. shroom smake it go away though.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5977934 - 08/19/06 07:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Why compare yourself to others?

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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Limelight]
    #5978806 - 08/19/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?




yes, and it hasnt gone away. that has been a thorn in my side for so long. its an emptiness that i just sorta learn to deal with.. shroom smake it go away though.


What are you like when youre drunk?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5979702 - 08/19/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I used to think along these lines. I've personally decided that it's not really something worth pondering. I mean, it is good to accept the fact that you do tend to look at things differently than most. Its a good thing to get out of the way. I spent a lot of time just thinking and very little ot show for it, except maybe some small personal insights. Instead of thinking about how other people are like robots, or how uninteresting they are, I made sure that I wasn't associated with them. I quit driving a car (my parents previously bought a car for me to share with my brother, but I never use it anymore) I ride my bike instead. I avoid purchasing anything new if I dont have to, to avoid consumerism and the rise in the split between rich and poor, mass production in china, etc. I try to buy food localy rather than from huge corperations that put little farmers out of business. I'm not saying I'm perfect or anything, but why not try to do your best and act on the things that you've been thinking about so much? If you really do care, act on that.

Essentially I said to myself, sure, I do look at the world in a different way than a lot of people. Also, if anyone is going to make a difference, or do something new, or lead people, it is going to be somebody who feels like they have something new to share, like me. I enjoy life more since I took up the viewpoint. Another thing to consider is that in every generation there are people that make large changes in society and people that don't. If I really care about what is going in our society, I should do my best to make a difference and try to help. It is a whole other issue dealing with how to help, but yeah, that is a whole other issue.

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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: entre]
    #5982005 - 08/20/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I feel this way all the time. I am in no way arrogant. I believe that a majority of people have no idea what they are doing with themselves throughout the day. I'm betting that almost everyone registered with this site has felt this way about society. No matter how wasted or high I get myself, I always put everyone else before me. I care more about making others happy than pleasing myself. I am always aware of my actions. I have never "blacked out". There has to be much more to humanity than what meets the eye. Look at the technological advancements we have made in the last 100 years and then you look at the spiritual and social advances and tell me we have evolved. It is sad and depressing to think that we as a race have the technology to cure many of lifes diseases and yet we choose not to because of religious reasons?! Or we spend 2 billion dollars on an aircraft whose sole purpose is destruction.

Maybe we are indeed more in touch with "life" than the rest of society. I am glad to see that so many feel the same way. What ever happened to caring about what you do and how it affects those around you? What will happen that day when our humanity eventually surpasses our technology; will we be the rulers?


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: 550c]
    #5982780 - 08/20/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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550c said:
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Limelight said:
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550c said:
do you feel detached from emotions, sort of like you run only on your thoughts and not on how you feel emotionaly?




yes, and it hasnt gone away. that has been a thorn in my side for so long. its an emptiness that i just sorta learn to deal with.. shroom smake it go away though.


What are you like when youre drunk?




I'm the exact same way. It has not always been like this, and I'm not sure exactly what made it come about. I feel so detached from my emotions, it's crazy. I have learned to deal with it though, but I can tell it is slowly eating away at me.

About the drinking, I feel great when I partake in such things. I don't do it often though, maybe a few times a year? But I feel awesome when I do drink. So... alive.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: ekornmeyer]
    #5982891 - 08/21/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've felt similiar, but my low self esteem generally suggests to me that I am left behind.

Although in a manner not much unlike the original poster I have come to the personal tastes of not enjoying many of the force-fed media such as Mtv.

Slightly in-tune with the idea, but perhaps not in agreement with others, I have felt that alchohol is detrimental to my cognitive ability and have grown a preference for consciousness altering drugs.


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Re: does anyone feel 'further along' than most people? [Re: Wasteland]
    #5983841 - 08/21/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

buahahaha...
I dunno, i never feel smart per se, sometimes I just feel the rest of the world is stupid... now I say lots of stupid shit and do stupid shit and think of myself as stupid, responding to this at 4:18am is kinda stupid, bit delerious, bound to go off on tangeents and probably not answer your question...

to be honest FIIK what you're on about though, i mean if it's anything other than a feeling of superiority of your amazing intellect over the dumbass masses. Really hard to understand what you mean as well I dunno - not the best way of explaining it.

The finishing each others sentences thing sounds great, very romantic, dunno what that has to do with 'being further along the path', was this some kind of telepathic experience or just a freaky occurence? and.. can you really answer that? I've had pseudo-telepathic experiecnes but am myself unsure of their validity.

mmm in any case, Whenever I feel superior to others I'd usually have some hillarious karmik kick in the nuts from god to restore the humble nature i hope i have. Talking about my tripping experiences, especially with mushrooms I've had some profound spiritual experiences, spiritual in the sense they shatter my perception of reality and make me re-evaluate my whole view of the universe and other experiences that i could only guess are like reconnecting consciously to the collective mind. ... hehe I was just about to go into length about the experiences and my interpretations but, i wont.. obviously. Anyway the point I'm making is... I've found in myself a tendency to have an elitist view that I've got a better idea than some other folks, but I know we all have plenty to learn from each other. THe only reason I guess is.. well it's hard to describe some things to other people and have them understand what you mean, you may consider them stupid, but really its me and my inability to explain yeah :smile:.. and some people are fucktards and really stupid.

Sometimes I get a feeling that every1 knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about, it's all been said before, there's no point saying it, it's either repetitive and boring or pretentious and full of wank or some other paranoid insecure delusion... BUt I've come to realise that... well we all only really know a small tiny bit of information or ideas about the small tiny bit of the universe that interests us, so every contribution that allows information to ... multiply is... excellent, fuck I'm tired, not sure what I'm on about.

Hmmm.. we all experience this subjectively, as such we are the most importnat person in our lives, everything is experienced through us, and we know everything through us, who else would have a better experience of reality than... me? well anyway I know better what I'm talking about.. at one point I had an alien encounter where they told me the secrets of the universe and such... but i forgot my pen :laugh:

point is, we all need a sense of self importance and that. I believe you when you say you're on the forefront of human evolution. As are we all. Hmmm I think a special place is reserved in the mind to those experiencing something divine, that which is beyond words, unexplainable, hence remaining a secret mystery - those of us privvy to these special mysteries are better than the fools comatose in their dream of reality... But we're not really, we just know which drugs to take :wink:

Anyhow the fact you can't explain this feeling makes me believe it's Only the 'feeling' u speak of. I mean you cannot 'prove' you are further along with any sort of.. mm say philosophy or theory, nothing 'real' -  for us at least, only the 'feeling' you had yeah?

I dunno how to answer this question really?

It's like:
"Hey do you ever feel like you are smarter than every1 else?"

- the point is i can never know if i am more 'evolved' than ANY1 else as I am no1 esle apart from myself. I may feel further along, but that's just my ego inflating.


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I'm the Dude. So that's what you  call me.  That, or Duder.  His  Dudeness.
Or El Duderino, if, you know, you're not into the whole brevity thing.


Edited by el_duderino (08/21/06 01:13 PM)


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