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Land_Crab
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Recalling ego loss at will
#5975269 - 08/18/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was having a conversation with a friend of mine, recounting to him an experience where I smoked 5-Meo-DMT and salvia simultaneously. I was trying to explain to him how this triggered instant ego loss.
Many, if not most of us have experienced ego loss (or ego death) -- the sensation that you are dissolving and begin to lose all sense of self to the point where there is no you anymore. (I myself have experienced becoming unable to think and only to feel.)
He suggested that wouldn't it be interesting if I was somehow able to "recall" the experience of ego loss at will. I haven't gotten there yet, but I believe that with some conditioning, it will be possible to recall the experience. Obviously, I'm not going to melt into a puddle of flesh on the spot, (how embarrassing), but if I can summon to mind the experience of ego loss, then I can be without ego.
What do you think about this idea?
Edited by Land_Crab (08/18/06 07:27 AM)
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Orbus
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Re: Recalling ego loss at will [Re: Land_Crab]
#5976044 - 08/18/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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What your talking is essentially the goal of the Buddhist tradition. To transcend the self, so that all times you have no real sense of self or duality. Supposedly this is possible, but there's no real evidence that anyone has accomplished since the Buddha did it several thousand years. People have been able to recreate it in deep meditation after a lifetime of training, but only while meditating, not at all times. I still believe that complete enlightenment is possible, but so hard you might as well call it impossible. I also think that drugs can only take you so far. While it may take you 40 years to realize ego loss with meditation, most anybody can experience it if they dose high enough. But you can't apply a fraction of what you've seen with a drug induced ego loss because eventually your old habits set back in. Basically you have spend an equal time unlearning your bad habits as you did creating them. So if you want true enlightenment look forward to years of erasing all of your delusions you have created during your lifetime. The good news is, even a little progress can greatly improve your life and your happiness.
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Newbie
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Re: Recalling ego loss at will [Re: Orbus]
#5976074 - 08/18/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Funny you mention this...I made a post a while back that explained how I'm able to do this when I'm high from weed, or sometimes sober. I can't bring myself into ACTUAL ego loss, but I get those same emotions/lack of emotions as I did when I first approached ego-loss.
Edit: Actually, I found it. Here's the link. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5862921#Post5862921
Edited by Newbie (08/18/06 04:27 PM)
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Gomp
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Re: Recalling ego loss at will [Re: Land_Crab]
#5976105 - 08/18/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Do not 'kill' your ego... ..transcend it!" -Unknown :p
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