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Warrantless wiretaps illegal says U.S. Judge
    #5975059 - 08/18/06 01:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5260892.stm


US judge rules wiretaps illegal


A US programme to tap some phones without warrants is unconstitutional, and must be halted at once, a federal judge in Detroit has ruled.

The scheme, approved by President George W Bush in 2001, involves tapping conversations between some callers in the US and people in other countries.

Civil liberties campaigners brought the case against the programme, which was uncovered by the US media.

The White House said the scheme was legal and it would seek an appeal.

Spokesman Tony Snow said the programme was "firmly grounded in law and regularly reviewed to make sure steps are taken to protect civil liberties."

"We couldn't disagree more with this ruling, and the justice department will seek an immediate stay of the opinion and appeal," he said in a statement.

Mr Bush authorised the Terrorist Surveillance Programme, as the secret interception scheme is known, after the 11 September 2001 attacks on Washington and New York and insists that it is a vital tool in the US war on terror.

Bush setback

But after the programme was uncovered by the media a year ago, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit arguing that the secret interception of US phone calls was unconstitutional.

In her 43-page ruling on the case, Judge Anna Diggs Taylor said that the surveillance programme violated protections on free speech and privacy.

"Plaintiffs have prevailed, and the public interest is clear, in this matter. It is the upholding of our constitution," Judge Taylor wrote.

Ann Beeson, the ACLU's associate legal director and the lead attorney for the plaintiffs, said that "by holding that even the president is not above the law, the court has done its duty".

Correspondents say the ruling is another setback for the president's self-proclaimed wartime powers.

He has already been rebuked by the US Supreme Court over his plans to try suspects being held in Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court stated that the president did not have a blank cheque.


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Re: Warrantless wiretaps illegal says U.S. Judge [Re: kake]
    #5975270 - 08/18/06 06:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Cool. You know what this means, though right people? We are talking about the JBTs.....

Worst case scenario they can tap your phone(s) and bug your home(s) as well as your car(s), to gain intel on you. They just can't use the actual surveillance logs in court against you. Comforting.

Thank you very much uncle fucking scam.


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Re: Warrantless wiretaps illegal says U.S. Judge [Re: kake]
    #5975274 - 08/18/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The text you've entered now differs from the article you linked. Now, it is not a clear victory as the ruling is suspended due to an appeal:

A secret wiretapping scheme brought in as part of the Bush administration's war on terror is unconstitutional and must stop, a federal judge has ruled.

The programme, approved by President Bush in 2001, allows for the monitoring of millions of US citizens' phone calls abroad without the need for a warrant.

Civil liberties campaigners brought the case against the programme, which was uncovered by the US media.

The White House says the scheme is legal and is seeking an appeal.

In her 43-page ruling on the case, Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit said that the surveillance programme violated protections on free speech and privacy.

"Plaintiffs have prevailed, and the public interest is clear, in this matter. It is the upholding of our constitution," Judge Taylor wrote.

Stinging rebuke

White House spokesman Tony Snow said: "We couldn't disagree more with this ruling."

The programme is "firmly grounded in law and regularly reviewed to make sure steps are taken to protect civil liberties," he said in a statement.

He said the Justice Department had launched an appeal and a hearing was set for 7 September. The judge's ruling is on hold while the appeals process is under way.

"We're going to do everything we can do in the courts to allow this programme to continue," Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told a news conference.

The judge's ruling is a stinging rebuke to President George W Bush over what he has called a vital tool in the war on terror, says the BBC's James Westhead, in Washington.

Mr Bush authorised the Terrorist Surveillance Programme, as the secret interception scheme is known, after the 9/11terror attacks.

But after the programme was uncovered by the media a year ago, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit arguing that the secret interception of US phone calls was unconstitutional.

The ACLU welcomed the judge's ruling. "It's a sound rejection and rebuttal to the Bush administration argument on the war on terror," said executive director Anthony Romero.

The ruling is a further set back for the president's self-proclaimed wartime powers, our correspondent says.

He has already been rebuked by the US Supreme Court over his plans to try suspects being held in Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court stated that the president did not have a blank cheque.


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Edited by 76degrees (08/18/06 06:52 AM)


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Re: Warrantless wiretaps illegal says U.S. Judge [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5975280 - 08/18/06 06:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

USMCamputee said:
Cool. You know what this means, though right people? We are talking about the JBTs.....

Worst case scenario they can tap your phone(s) and bug your home(s) as well as your car(s), to gain intel on you. They just can't use the actual surveillance logs in court against you. Comforting.

Thank you very much uncle fucking scam.




I haven't heard about this before. Are you sure about that? Do you have evidence? Sorry, I would believe you but since I've never heard of that happening before... and I think the media would be all over that, I am skeptical. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just would like to know what knowledge you base that comment on. Thx.


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