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Fruitboot
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LSD and the young mind
#5974166 - 08/17/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright, so a friend of mine can get some LSD gels for $5 a hit (not fucking bad for where I live, usually everything is as expensive as possible). Since apparently acid is really hard to come by from what I read on these boards, I'm planning on buying one and maybe another for a friend who is out of town at college for when he comes back to town. My other friend is getting a couple too. Thing is he said he may do it with his little bro, who is 16. I argued with him that that is too young to do acid but he insisted his brother is more mature for his age (it's true, his brother is really cool and chill) but I don't know, 16 just seems too young for acid. What're your opinions? His brother has done mush a couple of times and smokes bud by the way.
Edited by Fruitboot (08/17/06 08:19 PM)
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5974192 - 08/17/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I understand your concern, but I don't really think it's your place to tell them out to live their lives. Regardless of his age, the substance is illegal so technically nobody should do it ever. However, obviously this is bullshit and if it were legal, it would be strictly prohibited for those under the age of 21 or 18. If he is experienced with Marijuana and other Hallucinogens then it's probably not that big of a deal, if this were his first trip it would be a different story. Anyhow, good luck to you all.
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Even if it were legal and you had to be 18 or 21 kids 16 and under would obviously still be trying it...look at booze, it makes them wanna try it more I think.
I don't think 16 is too young if hes experienced in other things. I had a friend that would take a couple drops liquid acid before school then redose at lunch when he was 16...then again hes somewhat cracked out now but I dont think its because of that...
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5974219 - 08/17/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD can change a young person. In my opinion its not so good for people with still un-developed brains. The brain is fully developed at around the age of 23.
I know how it effected me. I used alot of acid when I was 17, and I learned alot, but it put me in my own little world and definately made my brain develope differently. I grew up way to fast because of it. I experienced to much mind-blowing shit to have turned out totally normal or un-effected.
The kid will probably handle it pretty well, thats a luxury young people often have when it comes to psychedelics.
I wouldnt give a 16 year old lsd unless they were a very smart kid and seemed in control(not too robotic and uninteresting with a blind look on their face). Really though I just wouldnt give them any though. I wouldnt want what I do to effect a kid in any extreem way. Id leave that to their dealers, and just wouldnt want any part of it.
I handled those drugs better at that age than I do now(because I didnt know shit about what I wanted from the experience). I cant say that happens for everyone. I know someone who sort of freaked out the first time they tried weed.......
First time I used lsd I was 15, and it effected the way my personality developed without a doubt. So no matter what it does to the kid, It will effect him long term. This idea is more applicable for those who are young and use it frequently.
That drug taught me so much, but im not so sure I would give a 16 year old something that could change their lives for better or worse(like the people I bought acid from when I was quite young).
The first time I used LSD it was amazing. I just remember coming back to school the next day and finding everyone to be so uninteresting and common. They seemed like a different animal entirely, or atleast far different than myself.
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Edited by yageman (08/17/06 08:37 PM)
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Fruitboot
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: yageman]
#5974235 - 08/17/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
yageman said: LSD can change a young person. In my opinion its not so good for people with still un-developed brains.
Yea, this is my main concern about it. But from what I know of him, I think he will be able to handle it. I just don't want him to become some cracked out kid cause his brain wasn't ready for it.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5974256 - 08/17/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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He probably will have a blast just like I did at an even younger age.
It changed me. It was a gift and a curse of sorts. I wouldnt ever take back those experiences if I could. The only problem is that it made me feel way too smart than was for my own good/my age(and this was true to some extent). I was thoroughly and even permanently tripped out by it.
All in all, you could just turn this kid into mutant of some sort, and like myself at that age, he wont mind one bit.
or he could freak out.......Though people at that age tend to handle these hallucinogens pretty well if they have someone around to experience it with. They, like adults often do, can get way more than they bargained for..
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5974322 - 08/17/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I first tried lsd at 17 and do not regret it, but I think this is really a matter of case-by-case analysis. If he's a smart guy, has his life in order, does well in school and understands the risks of taking black-market drugs, then I think 16 is probably not going to cause a major problem.
I do think though, that most 16 year old boys are not mature enough to handle the intensity of a full-blown acid trip, and may end up having a tough time or solidifying warped, harmful ideas about the world.
Really though, everybody who considers taking LSD should make sure they are of sane mind and sound conscience. It's basically as simple as that (and the fact of the matter is that most young people don't have the experience to deal with dire situations that sometimes arise through the use of drugs).
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: yageman]
#5974324 - 08/17/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I first tried LSD at age 14, and I don't believe it has done anything negative to my mental health and I'm now 19
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: crakkattak]
#5974621 - 08/17/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I started using mushrooms and acid when i was 16 and it definitely changed my personality,mostly for the better but some negative as well.I was pretty intelligent for my age which made me feel alienated,but drugs made feel eevn more different than everyone else,it was a good different but i really felt alone at times.I found a few like minded individuals and theyve been my best friends ever since,but i think doing them made me mature a little too quickly.
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I had a similar experience like TheMexicutioner
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Rebirtha]
#5986863 - 08/22/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Word, thanks guys. Turns out the shit lasts 18 hours...so obviously it isn't LSD so I'm not gunna get it. Hopefully I can get some sometime soon though.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5987339 - 08/22/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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18 hours could mean DOB, which i hear is quite a crazy ride (in a good way, but obviously it could also be in a bad way).
Personally, i would buy some if i came across some, but knowing only duration isn't enough to really tell.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/dob.shtml
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: avapxia]
#5987497 - 08/22/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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18 hours could also be something commonly said by those who take larger doses of lsd.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: yageman]
#5987630 - 08/22/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Or somebody who wants make it seem better than it is, like most drug dealers. I guess it depends who you heard it from.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: yageman]
#5987638 - 08/22/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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if it helps any, i'm 17 and I took my first acid like last year. I have no problem with acid, I enjoy it very much. I also have eaten a good ammount of mushrooms..
I have only had one bad trip in my 40+ trips, and that was the first time on mushrooms. I haven't had any bad trips on acid, and I mean I have gotten both extremes when it comes to purity.
I think it depends on his sober mindset and the people he is around. Also I took mushrooms like 4 or 5 times before I tried acid.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: DankAne]
#5987658 - 08/22/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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are you 17 0r 18.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (08/22/06 08:20 PM)
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5987675 - 08/22/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hell, I know a sixteen year old girl who's done acid more than I have.
If he knows what he's getting himself into I'm sure he'll be fine
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: NizzyJones]
#5987749 - 08/22/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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My sister turns 16 in 4 days. She made it pretty clear she wants "to try an LSD."
As an older sibling, I think she's a dumbass and I won't be giving her any psychedelics until she can prove herself worthy. Which should take years. Gah, lil sisters are lame... I'd consider it if she was a guy.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Edgekrusher]
#5987775 - 08/22/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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heh. Not all little sisters are lame - just most of 'em.
I know the afrementioned sixteen year old from hanging out with her brother: myself and three friends of mine are the only people I know who she can't smoke under the table
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: NizzyJones]
#5988045 - 08/22/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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My sister smokes and drinks.... I still find her presence annoying.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Edgekrusher]
#5988308 - 08/22/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally, I think LSD would be fine... As long as it does not lead to a gateway to other drugs. LSD is very special mind opening drug (and for a specific duration of time mind altering). It is important that this insight does not lead to the belief that other drugs can do the same thing. While most all drugs have mind altering effects, psychedelics such as LSD in particular have the least consequence. No physical damage or overdose potential and not a euphoric or addictive drugs. While other drugs may alter perception, they can be very addictive yet do not have near the ability to allow the mind to learn new wonderful things.
There is a lot of difference between getting high or stoned and tripping. One is a burn-out and the other is a potential gateway to the most beautiful parts of the mind and soul.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5989077 - 08/23/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's all variable; some people are ready at 15, some are ready at 50....some are never ready. I first dropped when I was 17, and I was def. ready...in fact, I'd say I would've been ready earlier, I just didn't get into the scene until I was 16, and then there was a years wait until it crossed my path. A year of research and questioning that all paid off when I got it and wound up taking a whole lot.
Your friend and his brother know best whether or not he's ready...if you think he is than go for it. What color are these gels if I may ask? I've had a bunch of the amber/orange colored ones this summer, so if that's what you have I can give you an idea of what to expect potentcy/cleanliness wise. Good luck.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: Fruitboot]
#5989187 - 08/23/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If he really wants to do it let him, WITH SUPERVISION of course.
16 year olds tend to make bad decisions sober, let alone trippin on Alice. Also keep in mind that potency can vary VASTLY. Be sure you're not giving a newb something that turns out to be 5x.
A friend of mines brother flipped out once from eating some of my freshly harvested fungus. I guess he thought he was superman and decided to eat a whole 8th. I of course felt horrible guilt afterwards. Now everything comes with a BIG ASS WARNING. Not everyones minds are alike, what's childsplay to one person can be a ride to hell and back for another.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: BlueChimera]
#5989467 - 08/23/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
BlueChimera said: If he really wants to do it let him, WITH SUPERVISION of course.
I totally agree, do not give a 16 yr old LSD and let him fry in his room alone. Loneliness can be absolutely killer when your alone and hallucinating.
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Re: LSD and the young mind [Re: ZeroSky]
#5998721 - 08/26/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, me and his older bro would definatley do it with him. I guess I'll just wait until more comes around.
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