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Aliens substrate formula?
    #5974157 - 08/17/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Has anyone used this formula or a similar one in a successful grow or does anyone know of a grow log using it ( I already used the search function)Also does anyone have any opinions on the viability of this formula in comparison to WBS/rye/popcorn.I know most of the other substrates used in the current grow logs are much easier to obtain and cheaper but money and availability are not really issues for me (GF works at hippie health food store) so I was wondering if there are any benefits over other substrate formulas.Also has anyone ha any luck direct fruiting with this formula.

http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7922

It really seems like this would be an awesome substrate but I was just wondering why I have yet to see one person post about using it.


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Re: Aliens substrate formula? [Re: eclipse]
    #5974180 - 08/17/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ive done similar

brf/flax/quinoa in pf jars

wbs/quinoa in grain jars

have experimented with different ratios of a whole slew of other ingredients... rye, soy etc... and all of the above totally on their own at times

fruited as is, or spawned to other crazy bulk mixtures

i say save the time, frustration, and money gathering together all the extra stuff.  at the end of the day, i can't tell a damned difference which mushrooms came from what... other than marked improvements in size and quality off bulk substrates vs. cake substrates.

moisture capacity and overall substrate mass (thats the bulk vs. cake thing) determines how large and healthy your mushrooms get.  genetics determines an overwhelming proportion of the shape, quality, and potency of the mushrooms.  environmental paramaters also has an effect on quality and yields.  there's just so many factors, that sticking different ingredients here or there kind of gets lost in the noise and any real difference its making is negligible.

try it if you like, obviously i'm not averse to experimentation. :smile:  but if you're expecting some sort of crazy return on the added money and effort invested, you might be disappointed.


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Re: Aliens substrate formula? [Re: creamcorn]
    #5974204 - 08/17/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thanks a lot creamcorn ,coming from you that definitely points me towards a more simplistic method (rye,wbs) and a bulk spawn.This will be my first solo grow and I a thinking of doing a few straight cakes some casings and one monotub/doubletub just to figure out which one really tickles my fancy.Since I have already obtained all the ingredients for aliens substrate except the millet (damn hippie store only sells hulled millet)I might as well make up a few jars to experiment with but I think I will focus most of my energy on the tried and simple wbs or rye teks.


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Re: Aliens substrate formula? [Re: eclipse]
    #5977352 - 08/18/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You might want to use slightly less water than they suggest with the alien recipee. Out of 6 jars I believe only 2 of mine fully colonized, the rest either stalled or contamed.


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Re: Aliens substrate formula? [Re: davesj1]
    #5977621 - 08/19/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

A friend took some Alien substrate Z strain and said they were fantastic, and he took a small ammount of them. It is definately something worth trying.  :mushroom2:

-SDP :beer:


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