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Dr_deep
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Registered: 08/17/06
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Newbie first try
#5973380 - 08/17/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is a total Newbie experience, ive never tried shrooms and about 2 months ago i thought i would do the whole blown experience.
I started off with a Single P.Cubensis spore print on a folded piece of paper. Through a slow and long process i scraped the spores off into cooled boiled water. I then created about 10 syringes.
Next i created the cakes, Using a mixture of water, vermiculite and Organic Brown rice. I powdered the rice using a milkshake maker, then created the tubs.
To NOTE i didnt peirce holes, i found this a nussance in the first set i made, i created sealed plastic jars. I dissinfected them in a pressure cooker i was surprised to have. Through stupidity i ended up wrapping them the whole jars in foil, although this was a mistake i believe it stopped the plastic from totaly melting.
I grabbed the syringes, dissinfected my oven and my hands, put my mouth under my shirt. Put the oven on low (flame), removed the lids and injected the cakes in four places. Sealed them and kept them in a dark closet with a little heater keeping the temp between 80-85 'F.
This stage DEFFINITELLY took the longest, today after about 2 1/2 months i finely took one out that was covered. Ive created a home made habitat. The container is like a big tupper jar, the base is water, putting a plate down i raised the cake off the water surface.
To create humidity i grabbed an old ornament that my mother used to use. Using ultrasound it practically creates mist in a huge bowl. Using this i placed it under the surface so it creates a perpetual mist, also conviniently it has a light .
Im seeig how things go, ive got a bout 7 more jars in the dark still waiting for the white growth. Has anyone had the problem in which it seems like the white has stopped spreading? Oh well ill keep hoping.
I wanted to post this because im quite proud of what ive done so far. I will post a few pics aswell.
Thanks for reading this.
- Dr Deep
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Dr_deep
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Re: Newbie first try [Re: Dr_deep]
#5973410 - 08/17/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont know how to post pics in the posts so i uploaded them and am sharing, have a look.
- Dr Deep
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monstermitch
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Registered: 02/10/06
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Re: Newbie first try [Re: Dr_deep]
#5973413 - 08/17/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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your oven inoculation is bogus.
sure to fail all kinds of times. that is one reason your growth is no good.
simple advice:
read up and find a tek you like. read it very well. gather ever supply for the tek. make NO substitutions what so ever. follow the tek to a T. make no mistakes, double check. cut no corners.
you should get the same results they did.
when you go off on your own willy nilly style like you did, bad things happen, and success is far from easy to attain.
There are sterile procedures that need to be followed. Do you think swirling hot air around your jars and opening them is a good idea? It isn't.
Look for a handful of posters here with a bunch of posts. Read their posts and their teks. Check out their pics and their descriptions of methods. Find a few you like the best. Read every one of their posts. Take a few weeks if you have to. There is a ton of info you should learn.
good luck with your new hobby.
Also, use the search posts button to answer your questions
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wiggles
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Re: Newbie first try [Re: Dr_deep]
#5973415 - 08/17/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck on your first try!
If the jar seems to have completely stop growing, take off the lid and sniff. If it has a smell that is sweet, sour, or anything that isn't distinctly "mushroomy," they're contammed.
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Edgekrusher
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Quote:
monstermitch said: your oven inoculation is bogus.
sure to fail all kinds of times. that is one reason your growth is no good.
simple advice:
read up and find a tek you like. read it very well. gather ever supply for the tek. make NO substitutions what so ever. follow the tek to a T. make no mistakes, double check. cut no corners.
Am I suppose to read all that like a poem?
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Dr_deep
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OK thanks for all the feedback, they way i see it is why not try different things? Ive got about 7 tubs to mess around with .
I read somewhere that the white growth can be used with cranberry juice to extract some of the phychedelic compounds? does this work?!
One more thing, if you check out my pics u can see the growing method i use, Any advice on the number of hours i should keep the light and humidifier on?
Thanks a lot fellow shroomers.
- Dr Deep
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Cubenisseur
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Re: Newbie first try [Re: Dr_deep]
#5975439 - 08/18/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK thanks for all the feedback, they way i see it is why not try different things?
They are trying to save you time-money-energy.
Once you master the tried and true basics(methods), then you can decide if you want to experiment.
People have been doing this for many years. By now, it's pretty much been mastered as to what works, and what doesn't. Know what I'm saying?
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creamcorn
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Re: Newbie first try [Re: Dr_deep]
#5975465 - 08/18/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr_deep said: OK thanks for all the feedback, they way i see it is why not try different things? Ive got about 7 tubs to mess around with .
I read somewhere that the white growth can be used with cranberry juice to extract some of the phychedelic compounds? does this work?!
One more thing, if you check out my pics u can see the growing method i use, Any advice on the number of hours i should keep the light and humidifier on?
Thanks a lot fellow shroomers.
- Dr Deep
Why not try different things? Because you don't know what you're doing yet. If you like to fail, sure go for it. Once you know what you're doing and what purpose each step serves, then you can try different things... but until that point, follow the directions. 
Perfect example, those holes in the jars. A nuissance to make them it may be, but they aren't just there for your syringe to go in - they're there to allow the mycelium to breathe. The reason your jars took so painfully long and some of them stopped all together was because there was no gas exchange going on. Properly prepared jars should take 2 weeks, not 2 months.
As for your light and humidity... a few hours of light a day is fine. There's really no set rule although most people use a 12 on/12 off schedule. Light is important, but not that important... as long as there's some every day, its ok.
As for your humidity, who knows how long it should be on... I've never heard of a humidifier made out of an ornament before. You need to monitor it with your hygrometer there to measure the humidity and figure out what's going on in there and tweak it til its right... or better yet, get yourself some perlite, as its very inexpensive, and when prepared properly will make the perfect amount of humidity with zero guesswork involved. Ditch the ornament and those couple of inches of water in your tub... standing water can be bad news. Can't really make things out from the pictures but it doesn't look like a very wise setup to me.
As for the cranberry juice thing, I wouldn't bother. You're more likely to get a stomach ache than a psychedelic experience.
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